Michael Moore & Alex Jones & Bill Cooper

[gwynned]

[QUOTE=3Dprisoner;43960]
I agree with what people here are saying about Michael Moore. He doesn't touch the dangerous issues and can remind you of a male version of Rosie O'Donnel.


David Icke isn't on this list and I feel he should be. His book And The Truth Shall Set You Free almost rivals Behold a Pale Horse. Almost. David Icke has remained committed to exposing the truth despite ridicule and never shied away from where his evidence has led him no matter how bizarre. The days of just seeing things in 3 dimensions needs to end so that we can see a bigger picture of manipulation in my opinion. Icke has exposed this wonderfully in many of his books.

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Very insightful. I love the comparison of Moore to Rosie O'Donnel. Get Radical! Vote for Obama!

I had some questions about Icke, and went to see him in person in Santa Clara. I now have no doubt that he is sincere and has researched his ideas very carefully. He has paid a price for being out there. He mentioned all those who had ridiculed him over the years and while he has been vindicated in part, I could tell the ridicule had taken a toll on him. One thing he said that really struck me. He said that finding a way out of the matrix will turn your world upside down and, inevitably, a price is paid. For him, he said he was now alone, and I could sense the sadness in his voice.

I take issue with the suggestion posted subsequent to your comments that 'these are all good people.' That may or may not be true. But if our goal is to find our way out of this mess and someone leads us to a dead end, they are wasting our time, either intentionally or by the kinds of good intentions that lead to hell. More and more, I'm learning discernment, often assisted by observations on this forum. Much thanks.

[Ashatav]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

Cooper did not have any time for Jones; you can research this on the web. I don't have any time for Moore - I believe him to be a disinfo agent (Bowling for Colombine (sp?) distorted the truth to fit the story).

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

Amen to that.

Bill Cooper is the only of these 3 who has talked about the real problems behind the NWO.

And That's something I apreciate about Bill Deagle, he is in the minority who are brave enought to talk about the Jesuits (behind all basicaly) and knigths of malta, etc.

And all the people who talks about this topic are dead after a while or at least are atempts against they lives, and who's not and disinform the people like Alex Jones or Michael Moore keep living and wins oscars hahaha

Cheers!

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Bernd

Not to forget Jordan Maxwell... It's incredible how deep this man went in his research...

Yeah. Jordan Maxwell deserves an Altar. He's a pioneer.
Stuff on his website enlightened me a lot on many issues....

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

Cooper did not have any time for Jones; you can research this on the web. I don't have any time for Moore - I believe him to be a disinfo agent (Bowling for Colombine (sp?) distorted the truth to fit the story).

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

I agree 100%

[Dantheman62]

Bill Cooper had strength, Micheal Moore is a fat slob with no self respect, before you can gain respect, you've got to have respect for yourself.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

Moore seems to be fitting that role of having someone on both sides.

havnt done much reserahc on Cooper but I will and I love jordan Maxwell, we all made a few errors, nobody is perfect

I agree. The first is rich and has many assets at stakes, so he wants to please his masters.

The latter one is broken and is a fine researcher.

Both of them are attacked, buts it's easy to separate BS from Quality when you follow the money.

salute.

sorry someone reffer to good guys are bad and vice verse,sorry but idont understand who are the good guys in this mess?

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by ChooseYourLifeNow

I agree 100%

Me too.

Im actually suprised that Bill Cooper was thrown in with these two.

Alex Jones and Michael moore are more then likely (well funded) pawns in my honest opinion, But Bill Cooper was a true patriot who died for his country.

He deserves more respect then too be branded a maverick and thrown into the same category as these other two morons.

[Phosphene_Sparks]

IMHO Jones is the only one with any real substance due to the fact that what he says can be backed up usually by triplicate documents.

His films are also an eyeopener and much of what he has predicted over the past 10 years has become a reality. It is hella scary but then that's the world we live in.

I suggest that if you don't know Jones that you go to www.infowars.com and listen to his radio stationa nd read some the the articles.

Also, check this link, you should find a few of his films there.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...es&emb=0&aq=f#

Best Wishes

M

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

He called his Reptilian views the turd in the punch bowl. Not icke himself. Chinese whispers again

This is so far from my intent.

Mike, did you read the rest of my post at all?

Here is the Trio channel doc I was refering to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en

Alex is interviewed at about 12 minutes 30 seconds in regarding his views on David.

I suppose it is somewhat vague wether or not he is actually calling David a "turd..." or only his reptillian views.

This is so far beside the point though. My intent was to demonstrate Alex's ability to reevaluate tough information, and admit when he was wrong and apologize even.

[Ashatav]

Originally Posted by Phosphene_Sparks

IMHO Jones is the only one with any real substance due to the fact that what he says can be backed up usually by triplicate documents.

His films are also an eyeopener and much of what he has predicted over the past 10 years has become a reality. It is hella scary but then that's the world we live in.

I suggest that if you don't know Jones that you go to www.infowars.com and listen to his radio stationa nd read some the the articles.

Also, check this link, you should find a few of his films there.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...es&emb=0&aq=f#

Best Wishes

M

Hi, but is a topic who Alex Jones Never touch, and he has pointed by Leo Zagami as a coadjuntor.

The topic about the Jesuits and the Knights of Malta.

Research these topics.

They are who bring down the twin towers, they are the real power behind de secret societies.

Rockeffelers, Rothchilds, presidents and CIA chiefs, all illuminati Knights of Malta.

The Knights of Malta are servants of the Vatican.

The vatican serves the Jesuits!

Infórmate!

Cheers!

[googleboy]

Originally Posted by Dadrious

These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell

did your comment help someone
did your comment guide someone
did your comment had sense tone

ARE YOU HERE TO PICK A FIGHT ?
ARE YOU HERE TO PRACTICE BAD HUMOR ?

anyway ...

be well
GB

****

Alex has awakened many many people. But - just to the "physical" NWO. Not the spiritual war that is going on too.

BUT - I post over there too and they are so focused on the FEAR and they ridicule ANYTHING about aliens, UFO's, etc.

Or if you question Christianity.

I keep saying "Alex is waking up" on this thread and they keep deleting it!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63494.0

Fascinating....

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by googleboy

did your comment help someone
did your comment guide someone
did your comment had sense tone

ARE YOU HERE TO PICK A FIGHT ?
ARE YOU HERE TO PRACTICE BAD HUMOR ?

anyway ...

be well
GB

****

I am sorry to say, dude:
I agree 1000000000000% with Dadrious.

Jordan Maxwell is a fine researcher and he deserves
respect and recognition.

Today, a lot of those under the 'Limelight' were eating pablum when he began his research.
Go see his site, and check for yourself.

salute.

[bill7907]

I am not very familiar with Alex Jones.

But I am very familiar with a True American Patriot who had the couraged to talk publicly about all those criminals in the Pentagon apparently "taking charge of America".
William Cooper/Bill Cooper really gave a lot of information concerning the issue with the Extraterrestrials.
Any aware man would deduce that William Cooper's life was not going to last long because he had no allies...
No one was there to back up William on his exposure of the truth....
William Cooper said all the real stuff.


As for Michael Moore, he is trying to expose the truth but he doesn't want to get killed, so he does it extremely lightly.


I don't forsee anyone like William Cooper to come out anytime soon.
Rampant apathy is running wild on the globe.

[Mike_Jetson]

Originally Posted by raulduke

This is so far from my intent.

Mike, did you read the rest of my post at all?

Here is the Trio channel doc I was refering to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umentary&hl=en

Alex is interviewed at about 12 minutes 30 seconds in regarding his views on David.

I suppose it is somewhat vague wether or not he is actually calling David a "turd..." or only his reptillian views.

This is so far beside the point though. My intent was to demonstrate Alex's ability to reevaluate tough information, and admit when he was wrong and apologize even.

Sorry dude I wasnt saying you had got anything wrong. Finding the source of where info has been slightly changed the 1st time is always tough but usually always happens. The Deagle interview being the most major one lately.

Alex Jones actually misquoted himself . Originally refering to Ickes reptilian agenda as the turd in the punchbowl of good knowledge but indeed on that vid (you posted) Jones himself says "when i called him the.."

Alex likes to bend the facts as much as possible without lieing to get more people on our side and to get people to do their own research.

Anyone who said he doesnt talk about the jesuits is not telling the truth.

If Alex Jones decides to avoid the knights of malta of jesuit agenda then it may be others know more than him when it comes to detail, or he may genuinely fear from what he could say despite being the front liner he is, til death he will fight etc.

Im a fan, thats all that matters and like us, his opinions gladly change the more knowledge he receives

I enjoy listening to Alex Jones. Regardless of the issues he is happy to learn and change his views as he learns more

[googleboy]

[QUOTE=... fine researcher and he deserves
respect and recognition.
[/QUOTE]

yes I agree,..as a person,but work itself should be questioned and there is nothing bad or vicious in it ...

[QUOTE=
Today, a lot of those under the 'Limelight' were eating pablum when he began his research.
Go see his site, and check for yourself.
[/QUOTE]

simple fact that he is 72 and I m 45 is nothing .. he begin earlier ...
that is GOD FOR HIM for starters...

so what if we have been eating pablum at the time ? does it mean that we should take anything served as a... TV diner? no questions asked?

and YES I had maxwell books before he has the site ... we are more than 15 years "spaciren" together ....

but that one doesnt gave me a RIGHT to preach to anybody , I just want people to research by THEMSELF.

QUESTION EVERYTHING !!


be well
GB

*****

[GoingToFast]

I do not understand when someone is calling Alex Jones an agent of the oppressors, after listening to many of his broadcasts on the net and seeing many of his films it is absolutely clear to me that he is on our side, the ordinary people that struggles to survive in this hole NWO mess. I also do not understand why people try to make Jones Moore Cooper Icke and Maxwell out as antagonists, they are simply attacking the problems from different angels that does not automatically make them into enemies.

[Phosphene_Sparks]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

I do not understand when someone is calling Alex Jones an agent of the oppressors, after listening to many of his broadcasts on the net and seeing many of his films it is absolutely clear to me that he is on our side, the ordinary people that struggles to survive in this hole NWO mess. I also do not understand why people try to make Jones Moore Cooper Icke and Maxwell out as antagonists, they are simply attacking the problems from different angels that does not automatically make them into enemies.

Well put.

I will add one comment about the fear aspect of Alex Jones. Yes, it is scary. But then cruel cruel hard reality often is. Look at the savanna for example.

I think people need to tune in to the fact that, as a species we really aren't very far evolved from a pure state of nature in our thinking and actions.

Best Wishes

M

[TAXMASTER]

obviously nobody here has studied the jfk assassination thoroughly or they wouldn't have such wonderful things to say about bill cooper. he used blurry old faded copies of the zapruder film to futher his theory that the driver shot jfk. it was absolutely preposterous. first, any good copy of the film clearly shows the sun shining on the passenger SS man's head is the same glare that cooper claims was a gun. Second, there was a glass partition between the connelys and the fron seat where the secret service sat and if the driver fired a shot, it would have exploded the glass in fact you can see the connellys head bounce against it when the brakes were applied.

i have studied this assassination for 30 years and consider myself competant in the subject and guys like cooper have given "conspiracy theorists" a bad personna. if he twisted the truth in other events like he did with jfk, how can anyone deem him as credible.

Namaste'

[peacelovinman]

Originally Posted by TAXMASTER

obviously nobody here has studied the jfk assassination thoroughly or they wouldn't have such wonderful things to say about bill cooper. he used blurry old faded copies of the zapruder film to futher his theory that the driver shot jfk. it was absolutely preposterous. first, any good copy of the film clearly shows the sun shining on the passenger SS man's head is the same glare that cooper claims was a gun. Second, there was a glass partition between the connelys and the fron seat where the secret service sat and if the driver fired a shot, it would have exploded the glass in fact you can see the connellys head bounce against it when the brakes were applied.

i have studied this assassination for 30 years and consider myself competant in the subject and guys like cooper have given "conspiracy theorists" a bad personna. if he twisted the truth in other events like he did with jfk, how can anyone deem him as credible.

Namaste'

I am a fan of Cooper's but I am not in agreement with his thesis on the JFK assasination.

However, he was a dedicated man in attempting to get unpalatable truth to ordinary folks. He was talking about the New World Order long before the likes of Jones and Michael Moore were on the scene. His information came from the "inside", as he served with Naval Intelligence and was associated with the De Molay movement as a young man. His association with De Molay may indicate that his family may have a masonic history? (he himself believed he was chosen for intelligence work due to his prior membership of De Molay -they saw him as the "right" kind of person).

I do not believe he twisted the JFK "truth" for his own benefit but I do believe he was wrong in this instance. However, I have never seen the logic in throwing out the baby with the bathwater. This doesn't mean all Cooper's research should be disregarded and his intentions should be admired, in my opinion.

If you have studied the JFK assasination for 30 years, have you concluded that the official explanation is truth or otherwise? If you have concluded "otherwise", how successful have you been in passing on your research to folks at large?

I am genuinely interested as I believe JFK and 9/11 are the best examples to show people that governments lie and deceive (at the very least) to achieve their aims.

[Mike_Jetson]

Originally Posted by Phosphene_Sparks

Well put.

I will add one comment about the fear aspect of Alex Jones. Yes, it is scary. But then cruel cruel hard reality often is. Look at the savanna for example.

I think people need to tune in to the fact that, as a species we really aren't very far evolved from a pure state of nature in our thinking and actions.

Best Wishes

M

I once felt a bit of panic after first starting to listen to Jones on a daily basis quite some time ago but over time you get aclimatised to it and now there is no fear or panic and thats the same when i listen to the worst no matter who the source. Let the fear in, let it sweep over you and away, its not long before youve dont feel it any more. His style is obviously fear based but nowadays he knows the critical comments he gets so he now says, folks, I dont mean to scare you, im not fear mongering, this is the truth, im just reading news from mainstream media, which often he is.


And yeah the driver def. didnt shoot JFK, that would just be ridiculous. The vid that looked like he did was a decent theory apart from the drivers head clicking back round in one frame, and the other vid clearly showing the light that was making this seem possible when it was just light

With the JFK zepruder film, there was a great little mini doc I saw that theorised that the real zepruder film was edited and chopped together and made an extremely good convincing story, even more so when youve done video and image editing yourself. Things such as the shadows on the green and the huge size of the by standers in comparison to the car and each other. Looking forwsard to black sunshine, love the fan pic

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by peacelovinman

If you have studied the JFK assasination for 30 years, have you concluded that the official explanation is truth or otherwise? If you have concluded "otherwise", how successful have you been in passing on your research to folks at large?

In 'Dark Mission' from Richard C. Hoagland,

They tell the fatal shot came from the front: a shooter was located
behind a concrete wall atop the ''Grassy knoll''.

peaceful salutes.

[Mark]

I listen to Alex Jone all the time - he's on now over the internet on the refeed service. I think he looses it a lot because me gets frustrated with the whole game and he knows what's coming to us all if we don't wake up. He's been warning us for years about the way things are being driven - I'd get p*****d with people and I'm be the same has he if I were in that positon. I think that must of us here would also. Respect to Mr Jones.

Jordon Maxwell - have so much respect for this man also - some one who really knows his stuff and to be taken most seriously.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Pegasus-pUnK

In 'Dark Mission' from Richard C. Hoagland,

They tell the fatal shot came from the front: a shooter was located
behind a concrete wall atop the ''Grassy knoll''.

peaceful salutes.

If you watch the video of the shooting you can just make out the man in the front of JFK's car turning and shooting him - hidden in plan sight...