Lets play the guessing game

tone3jaguar · 10-14-2008, 03:00 PM

There are individuals that are members of these forums who are working for the negative power structure. Later on tonight I am going to use a method of devinition called pendulum dowsing to check and see ...

1. How many registered members are Illuminati.
2. How many non-registered illuminati are reading these forums.
3. What percentage of posts are made by the registered illuminati members.

I will not check individual members, that would be unethical. I just want everyone to get my intuitive take on the level of disinformation being presented, if any?

Take your guesses as to what the dowsing will turn up.

Yes, I know that some of you think that this is total B.S. I am aware of that and am completely accepting of it.

10-14-2008, 03:23 PM

Unethical? If your powers of divination are that strong, and you have the power to sniff out Illuminatti infiltration, by all means, name names. If you feel strong enough about it to create a thread like this, don't you think there is an obligation to use your powers to expose them? Besides, what good are percentages going to do us? Name names; put it all on the line.

If I were in charge of the PTB's assault on Avalon, this is the exact way I would go about doing it. I would foster paranoia and mistrust among the members, until they were too cautious and paranoid to post anymore. When I see posts and threads like this one, I don't see someone genuinely concerned about infiltration and disinformation. I see someone who ran across some post that disagreed or challenged a particular worldview, and instead of considering the other POV in a meaningful way, has decided to revert to their school-yard training.

10-14-2008, 03:27 PM

That sounds interesting, can it really work. Start with me as a test if you like, you have my permission..

tone3jaguar · 10-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny

That sounds interesting, can it really work. Start with me as a test if you like, you have my permission..

No, please guess. This is the guessing game, not the convince the intuitive to cross the line game.

unloadedgunn · 10-14-2008, 03:48 PM

Just one more quack hijacking what could be a useful forum, maybe if we just ignore this tripe, it will go away?

tone3jaguar · 10-14-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

Just one more quack hijacking what could be a useful forum, maybe if we just ignore this tripe, it will go away?[/QUOTE

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Never heard of forum hijacking. Thread highjacking yes, kind of hard to hijack the whole forum without hacking it.

Jeff Delano · 10-14-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

Just one more quack hijacking what could be a useful forum, maybe if we just ignore this tripe, it will go away?

A little nervous aren't we?? Might you be illuminati? Haha, I'm just messin around with you man.

unloadedgunn · 10-14-2008, 05:40 PM

I'm actually CIA, and I'm not allowed to laugh on company time

tone3jaguar · 10-14-2008, 06:54 PM

This thread is just for fun, some one guess or I wont do the dowsing later.

10-14-2008, 07:41 PM

Some character traits of the Illuminati (or evil itself)

1. It plays psychological games and performs mental summersaults and backbends in order to win arguments

2. It sows confusion and dissention

3. It has a dark, sardonic sense of humor (which it seems to have a hard time suppressing, even when it has the potential to expose it)

4. It infuses lies into truth (cloaking a boxload of **** with perfume)

5. It is a black wolf who dons sheep's clothing (trojan horses)

6. It is highly sophisticated at verbal retort and jargon

7. It never surrenders voluntarily and has a severe disdain for the idea and practice of "fair play"

8. It has a keen understanding of its enemy's desires and goals (and hates us for it)

9. It knows that it represents the "dark force" and is proud of it (rather than the common misperception that it "thinks" it is the good guy...believe me, no it doesn't)

10. It believes that it is infallible, or nearly so...its power on earth is almost absolute at this point. It thinks it now sees the ultimate prize in the not-so-far distance. In fact it believes it has the ability to surpass and defeat the Creator itself. Its arrogance is so unbridled that it actually thinks it can defeat Heaven itself!!

11. It doesn't think the seeds of its own destruction is the other side of the same coin that props up its dominion. Or if it does see it, it thinks it can suppress it. Again, its arrogance is virtually limitless

12. It doesn't seem to realize that the Legions of Light can defeat the Legions of Darkness. How wrong it is.

I personally believe that the Illuminati is in direct contact and alliance with demons in the spirit world and are colluding to install "hell on earth". They also realize that the possibility of "Heaven on Earth" is very real. That is their worst nightmare and it shall come to pass.

Goodness. Light. Heaven will win. Of that, I haven't a doubt.

eris · 10-14-2008, 07:51 PM

i'll make a guess - i'd say there are, out of the 4300 ish members there are about 300 disinfo workers of one type or other

lol

& the cynicism of the group & the quality of the posts has degenerated accordingly

percentage of posts approx one third

nice idea to dowse it

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ralok_j · 10-14-2008, 08:16 PM

1. 15
2. 45
3. 5.365%

Trishsgate · 10-14-2008, 08:32 PM

0.67%
1.13%
0.95%
with another 8% that are unawake or skeptical

SpeedAdict · 10-14-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitewolf

Some character traits of the Illuminati (or evil itself)

1. It plays psychological games and performs mental summersaults and backbends in order to win arguments

2. It sows confusion and dissention

3. It has a dark, sardonic sense of humor (which it seems to have a hard time suppressing, even when it has the potential to expose it)

4. It infuses lies into truth (cloaking a boxload of **** with perfume)

5. It is a black wolf who dons sheep's clothing (trojan horses)

6. It is highly sophisticated at verbal retort and jargon

7. It never surrenders voluntarily and has a severe disdain for the idea and practice of "fair play"

8. It has a keen understanding of its enemy's desires and goals (and hates us for it)

9. It knows that it represents the "dark force" and is proud of it (rather than the common misperception that it "thinks" it is the good guy...believe me, no it doesn't)

10. It believes that it is infallible, or nearly so...its power on earth is almost absolute at this point. It thinks it now sees the ultimate prize in the not-so-far distance. In fact it believes it has the ability to surpass and defeat the Creator itself. Its arrogance is so unbridled that it actually thinks it can defeat Heaven itself!!

11. It doesn't think the seeds of its own destruction is the other side of the same coin that props up its dominion. Or if it does see it, it thinks it can suppress it. Again, its arrogance is virtually limitless

12. It doesn't seem to realize that the Legions of Light can defeat the Legions of Darkness. How wrong it is.

I personally believe that the Illuminati is in direct contact and alliance with demons in the spirit world and are colluding to install "hell on earth". They also realize that the possibility of "Heaven on Earth" is very real. That is their worst nightmare and it shall come to pass.

Goodness. Light. Heaven will win. Of that, I haven't a doubt.

Hello Whitewolf..
Hey men.. i'm agree with you on everysingle point that you deducted.
In some way we are thinking the same thing.. I feel you spoke the truth from deep inside, done that you explain in simle points what is going on for real, why so many people want to leave the forum or not to post anymore..

Look at the reaction.. When you are forced to do something, receive, play something that you DONT like, is because is FORCE IMPOSED.. Not naturally given.. And thas how the ilumminati, Natzi, etc is working right now.

Respect for your post!! keep the fence electrified

10-15-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

I'm actually CIA, and I'm not allowed to laugh on company time

Pleased to meet you... When your off the clock, give me a holler... I bet I can make you laugh

To the OP

Please define "Illuminati" and what you consider a member...

Without that ANY data is irrelevant

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 10-16-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

No, please guess. This is the guessing game, not the convince the intuitive to cross the line game.

Love/Light 13 · 10-16-2008, 08:34 PM

tone3-

Good stuff, though certain members calling each other out in the thread is not helpful in the least. I do realize however that this cannot be avoided on an open forum such as this

I find the idea of dowsing to be fascinating, though I had never heard of it until last year when David Wilcock announced he would be speaking at the Dowser's conference in Vermont. Any insight into how you conduct your dowsing research would be enlightening.

My question for you:

#1 How many Illuminati members are their worldwide, and on a smaller scale within the United States. How many of these people would be considered "negatively polarized"?

#2 what are the chances the secrets of the Illuminati control of the global elite will be exposed in the next 5 years?

Thanks for your contributions to the forum,

L/L 13

************************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

10-16-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

tone3-

Good stuff, though certain members calling each other out in the thread is not helpful in the least. I do realize however that this cannot be avoided on an open forum such as this

Who is calling anyone out? Is this not a 'guessing game'? I am certainly not what Clark Kent thinks I am but its fun seeing him squirm a little

I do find it amusing that people come to these forums seeking 'the truth' that they think the PTB and groups like the Masons are hiding... and call for more whistleblowers to come forward to 'spill the beans'

But when they do they attack them with hate campaigns like the anti Illuminati/Mason etc stuff...

Yet those very insiders most likely to come forward are probably members of one or more such groups. Why would they want to come to a forum to share what they know only to suffer the abuse? Makes no sense to me at all

Edgar Mitchell Apollo 6th man on the Moon is a Mason... yet he did a recent world tour on mainstream media talking about UFO's and the truth of Roswell

Henry Deacon talked in the Camelot interview about two projects Looking Glass and Shiva Nova... when I posted links to the actual projects he 'reacted' in a very strange way. Yet the data is public info

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot expect real truth to come form people in the know and at the same time chase them of by accusations of "Illuminati" or whatever the flavor of the day may be.

Unless you are all content with stuff like the GFL Light Ships that never show.

Quote:

#1 How many Illuminati members are their worldwide, and on a smaller scale within the United States. How many of these people would be considered "negatively polarized"?

Answer ZERO The real Illuminati were shut down by the Secular Edict made by the Bavarian government in 1785

If you mean the 'perceived' Illuminati that includes every secret society, or any other 'shadowy' group then a count is impossible as there is no reference point

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

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#2 what are the chances the secrets of the Illuminati control of the global elite will be exposed in the next 5 years?

ZERO

If this control exists... then it would continue as is SECRET. If there IS a NWO then letting out the secrets would be counter productive to their plan

tone3jaguar · 10-14-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by historycircus

Unethical? If your powers of divination are that strong, and you have the power to sniff out Illuminatti infiltration, by all means, name names. If you feel strong enough about it to create a thread like this, don't you think there is an obligation to use your powers to expose them? Besides, what good are percentages going to do us? Name names; put it all on the line.

If I were in charge of the PTB's assault on Avalon, this is the exact way I would go about doing it. I would foster paranoia and mistrust among the members, until they were too cautious and paranoid to post anymore. When I see posts and threads like this one, I don't see someone genuinely concerned about infiltration and disinformation. I see someone who ran across some post that disagreed or challenged a particular worldview, and instead of considering the other POV in a meaningful way, has decided to revert to their school-yard training.

Wow, a little defensive arent we?

undetected · 10-14-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by historycircus

Unethical? If your powers of divination are that strong, and you have the power to sniff out Illuminatti infiltration, by all means, name names.

Well, sounds cool, but it's really unethical and against the universal laws, unless given permission from particular members. But then of course the illuminati wouldn't give permission so that gets us nowhere.

I'm in favour of the experiment, why not. But it should be noted, that no matter how good or bad jaguar's "powers" are, it's only him who knows. Whether he's 100% correct or totally wrong, we can't be sure one way or another. So yeah, it's basically a game and shouldn't start some paranoid ideas. If jaguar wants to try it, why not.

Personally I think there aren't as many illuminati here as just morons who like to mess around in forums. Maybe you can include it in the divination. ;]

Average Joe · 10-14-2008, 08:20 PM

My guess is....

4,000 members

4 disinfo workers

400 people who naturally don't believe everything they read and hey, might even pull apart a BS theory or two.

10-15-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by undetected

Personally I think there aren't as many illuminati here as just morons who like to mess around in forums. Maybe you can include it in the divination. ;]

Again I ask YOU to also define what YOU think an 'Illuminati' is and what you would consider a member

motov · 10-14-2008, 08:15 PM

deleted by me.

Mike_Jetson · 10-14-2008, 08:47 PM

Remove the words 'illuminati' from your questions and look for deliberate disturbers instead.

arcora · 10-14-2008, 08:52 PM

Personally I think it's arrogant and egocentric to think that the Illuminati are remotely interested in what goes on here.

For that matter, please, throw my name into the hat. Then I'll know exactly what to think of dowsing if it shows up on your list.

10-14-2008, 03:27 PM	#3
Donny Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets play the guessing game That sounds interesting, can it really work. Start with me as a test if you like, you have my permission..

10-14-2008, 03:48 PM	#5
unloadedgunn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 66	Re: Lets play the guessing game Just one more quack hijacking what could be a useful forum, maybe if we just ignore this tripe, it will go away?

10-14-2008, 05:40 PM	#8
unloadedgunn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 66	Re: Lets play the guessing game I'm actually CIA, and I'm not allowed to laugh on company time

10-14-2008, 06:54 PM	#9
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: Lets play the guessing game This thread is just for fun, some one guess or I wont do the dowsing later.

10-14-2008, 07:41 PM	#10
Whitewolf Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets play the guessing game Some character traits of the Illuminati (or evil itself) 1. It plays psychological games and performs mental summersaults and backbends in order to win arguments 2. It sows confusion and dissention 3. It has a dark, sardonic sense of humor (which it seems to have a hard time suppressing, even when it has the potential to expose it) 4. It infuses lies into truth (cloaking a boxload of **** with perfume) 5. It is a black wolf who dons sheep's clothing (trojan horses) 6. It is highly sophisticated at verbal retort and jargon 7. It never surrenders voluntarily and has a severe disdain for the idea and practice of "fair play" 8. It has a keen understanding of its enemy's desires and goals (and hates us for it) 9. It knows that it represents the "dark force" and is proud of it (rather than the common misperception that it "thinks" it is the good guy...believe me, no it doesn't) 10. It believes that it is infallible, or nearly so...its power on earth is almost absolute at this point. It thinks it now sees the ultimate prize in the not-so-far distance. In fact it believes it has the ability to surpass and defeat the Creator itself. Its arrogance is so unbridled that it actually thinks it can defeat Heaven itself!! 11. It doesn't think the seeds of its own destruction is the other side of the same coin that props up its dominion. Or if it does see it, it thinks it can suppress it. Again, its arrogance is virtually limitless 12. It doesn't seem to realize that the Legions of Light can defeat the Legions of Darkness. How wrong it is. I personally believe that the Illuminati is in direct contact and alliance with demons in the spirit world and are colluding to install "hell on earth". They also realize that the possibility of "Heaven on Earth" is very real. That is their worst nightmare and it shall come to pass. Goodness. Light. Heaven will win. Of that, I haven't a doubt. Last edited by Whitewolf; 10-14-2008 at 07:46 PM.

10-14-2008, 03:00 PM	#1
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Lets play the guessing game There are individuals that are members of these forums who are working for the negative power structure. Later on tonight I am going to use a method of devinition called pendulum dowsing to check and see ... 1. How many registered members are Illuminati. 2. How many non-registered illuminati are reading these forums. 3. What percentage of posts are made by the registered illuminati members. I will not check individual members, that would be unethical. I just want everyone to get my intuitive take on the level of disinformation being presented, if any? Take your guesses as to what the dowsing will turn up. Yes, I know that some of you think that this is total B.S. I am aware of that and am completely accepting of it.

10-14-2008, 03:23 PM	#2
historycircus Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets play the guessing game Unethical? If your powers of divination are that strong, and you have the power to sniff out Illuminatti infiltration, by all means, name names. If you feel strong enough about it to create a thread like this, don't you think there is an obligation to use your powers to expose them? Besides, what good are percentages going to do us? Name names; put it all on the line. If I were in charge of the PTB's assault on Avalon, this is the exact way I would go about doing it. I would foster paranoia and mistrust among the members, until they were too cautious and paranoid to post anymore. When I see posts and threads like this one, I don't see someone genuinely concerned about infiltration and disinformation. I see someone who ran across some post that disagreed or challenged a particular worldview, and instead of considering the other POV in a meaningful way, has decided to revert to their school-yard training.

10-14-2008, 07:51 PM	#11
eris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: that lovely blue planet, Posts: 53	Re: Lets play the guessing game i'll make a guess - i'd say there are, out of the 4300 ish members there are about 300 disinfo workers of one type or other lol & the cynicism of the group & the quality of the posts has degenerated accordingly percentage of posts approx one third nice idea to dowse it e

10-14-2008, 08:16 PM	#12
ralok_j Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 124	Re: Lets play the guessing game 1. 15 2. 45 3. 5.365%

10-14-2008, 08:32 PM	#13
Trishsgate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NC, USA Posts: 140	Re: Lets play the guessing game 0.67% 1.13% 0.95% with another 8% that are unawake or skeptical

10-16-2008, 08:34 PM	#17
Love/Light 13 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 128	Re: Lets play the guessing game tone3- Good stuff, though certain members calling each other out in the thread is not helpful in the least. I do realize however that this cannot be avoided on an open forum such as this I find the idea of dowsing to be fascinating, though I had never heard of it until last year when David Wilcock announced he would be speaking at the Dowser's conference in Vermont. Any insight into how you conduct your dowsing research would be enlightening. My question for you: #1 How many Illuminati members are their worldwide, and on a smaller scale within the United States. How many of these people would be considered "negatively polarized"? #2 what are the chances the secrets of the Illuminati control of the global elite will be exposed in the next 5 years? Thanks for your contributions to the forum, L/L 13 ************************************ may WISDOM guide COMPASSION "out of MANY, we are ONE"

10-14-2008, 08:20 PM	#21
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: Lets play the guessing game My guess is.... 4,000 members 4 disinfo workers 400 people who naturally don't believe everything they read and hey, might even pull apart a BS theory or two.

10-14-2008, 08:15 PM	#23
motov Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 115	Re: Lets play the guessing game deleted by me. Last edited by motov; 10-14-2008 at 08:56 PM.

10-14-2008, 08:47 PM	#24
Mike_Jetson Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North East ENGLAND Posts: 345	Re: Lets play the guessing game Remove the words 'illuminati' from your questions and look for deliberate disturbers instead.

10-14-2008, 08:52 PM	#25
arcora Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 696	Re: Lets play the guessing game Personally I think it's arrogant and egocentric to think that the Illuminati are remotely interested in what goes on here. For that matter, please, throw my name into the hat. Then I'll know exactly what to think of dowsing if it shows up on your list.