14th October 2008 - Page 8

Morphious · 10-01-2008, 03:01 AM

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malakai · 10-06-2008, 03:27 AM

I will say again, spirituality will not save you when the shift is happening.
Yes I agree with you when you say " If our planet was more spiritual we would not be caught in this mess".
But wake up ! we are too late for this right now....
The time is to get prepared, mentally (of course) but most of all phisically..
example # Shelter, food, water etc etc.
If you want to die, then you go for it and ascend but not I, as I want to live and come out on the backside of this to witness the new world.
You are SO brave to be able to face death and accept this " dying is just part of life (part of the experience) - a door closes and a new one opens. On and on your spirit moves from lifetime to lifetime consuming knowledge to get closer to the source, the creation - everything that is "
What a load of crap.....
I am a survivalist and will not lay down and die, I will do all I can to help my family/friends and I to survive the out come.
By the way, I am not afraid to die, I just don't want to die.
But guess what, you will be one of the first to die/ascend from where you reside, so there you will get you wish to die, peacefully, I hope.
Peace to all

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Originally Posted by NeoEmc2

Spirituality has everything to do with what is happening, friend. If our planet was more spiritual we would not be caught in this mess. Try to do some reading, educate yourself and LEARN before you call spirituality nonsense. It seems to me you have the concept of dying and ascension mixed up - dying =/= ascension. It also sounds like you are afraid to die when you should know by now that dying is just part of life (part of the experience) - a door closes and a new one opens. On and on your spirit moves from lifetime to lifetime consuming knowledge to get closer to the source, the creation - everything that is.

Personally I am hoping that this event does happen because it will be wonderful. It'll change our planet forever.

Peace

Luigis Mushroom · 10-06-2008, 06:32 AM

I guess I'll keep trying anyway.

Once again this was all taken from the message George Kavassalis left.

They are not the spiritual hierarchy, they imitate the spiritual hierarchy. Honestly, what they're doing is an abomination to the divine order of this world. The Cabal works for them, the cabal has made us globally so frightened and hopeless that we prayed for help, and now help is coming, but this is the child of a society looking for an easy way out, and it reflects our inability to accept responsibility for ourselves.

They will tell you many things such as "do not worship us, we are just here to help" or "we are not gods" etc... but you know who else said things like that? Jesus. Look how that turned out. One thing leads to another, and as the people being to trust them more and more, they'll take more and more status.

And you know what they're going to do? They'll say real truths that ring true in your heart. They say things like "we are one" but listen to the tone, they have no idea what it means. They've been saying lot's and lot's of fundamental truths, but this is just to earn trust. These are all tricks cult leaders have used for centuries. It's like when someone writes a book about their life and in the book someone tells them "you will be regarded as a liar and a charlatan." Fantastic! Obviously since it was predicted that everyone will think they're crazy, then they're not really crazy at all!

So at first they'll say ascension is between you and God alone, because that will ring true, then they're going to say "by the way here is an implant to 'facilitate' your ascension" and you'll experience a false sense of bliss caused by the stimulation of your nervous system as well as a telepathic link to... for lack of a better word, the mother ship, experiencing a false, language based sense of oneness.

If you don't believe they're going to do a bait and switch, they already have. How come before they said "we will definitely be here on the 14th" and now they tell us they'll only arrive if our collective consciousness can vote them in?

And according to Mr. Kavassalis, the places they have constructed to replicate the 5th dimension are abominations compared to the real thing. Real connection with the Divine Mother does not occur through language, it is based on pure understanding and pure love. Love... that is a very tricky word. It is the essence of everything, and yet not everything that people refer to as love is the love I refer to.

With all this fear mongering, and all this hopelessness, it's no wonder people prayed so hard for saviors that some showed up to fit the bill exactly. I mean, doesn't it seem a little bit too perfect? And why exactly couldn't they come 30 years ago when millions of people were being tortured and disappeared in the war between US imperialism and Nationalism? No, they come now because now is when people want an escape route, they're looking for an easy way out and so here comes along the band of pretend angels to save you all. The truth is, we drew this, and we are continuing to draw it. It is a masquerade of truth and divinity, because as we collectively desire help, the flaws in our energy are being reflected upon what we are pulling in. What are these flaws? The truth is, we can change the world with out them, be we are unwilling and afraid.

By the way, I am in no way, shape or form religious. I was raised christian and converted to atheism until finally the evidence for an afterlife became to overwhelming and broke me.

Ali Quadir · 10-06-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by malakai

I am a survivalist and will not lay down and die, I will do all I can to help my family/friends and I to survive the out come.

I've known many warriors in my life... And they were always fighting something. I've known many survivors in my life.. And they were always trying to survive something. I knew a few lovers, they were always in love. I knew a few initiates. And they knew where to be when to be there and how to follow the currents of life.

Let me ask you a question... As a survivalist, did you arm yourself?

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By the way, I am not afraid to die, I just don't want to die.
But guess what, you will be one of the first to die/ascend from where you reside, so there you will get you wish to die, peacefully, I hope.

Again, do not worry about me. I am fine, have always been fine and will be fine

I won't die... Not yet, I have as a low estimate 50 years ahead of me.

Another question... Do you know WHY all this is going to happen? Do you understand the underlying physics for example?

Luigi...
You are correct. I have nothing to add or object to your message.

That bait and switch you mention is prophecised. It will be attempted. It will also fail. But it will take a time before it fails. People will be fooled initially. The more educated we are the less time it takes for the fraud to become obvious.

The light is tripping up the efforts. Like water eroding stone. Slowly but surely...

Sanat · 10-06-2008, 03:48 PM

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UPDATE - 10/6/08 - Major Announcement by the Galactic Federation of Light

I recently attended another meeting with the First Contact Liaison Teams. This time it was at the Galactic Federation of Light Sirius B Defense Headquarters. Much was discussed. So let’s begin.

There have been full scale preparations for First Contact. The landing points of GFOL ships have been assigned to various areas of Planet Earth. Will First Contact happen right after the Illuminati has lost all of their power? No; First Contact will happen a couple of months after, just to clarify that. That is all I am allowed to say about details regarding First Contact.

The time of change is upon us. There has been an escalation of GFOL ships that have been flying into the lower parts of Planet Earth’s atmosphere to do various things. The most important is that they are sending energies of Love, Peace, and Joy to the entire planet to limit the fear, shock, and possible chaotic attitudes people may have due to this financial crisis that is expected to get worse until the Illuminati is fully bankrupt. Secondly, these ships are monitoring Planet Earth and her health. What all of you are seeing right now is a huge wave of change that is starting to sweep over the entire planet. 2008 is the year of change. 2009 is the year of action. It is very important for everyone to understand that.

The October 14th event is still right on schedule to manifest into our reality on October 14th. Final details and preparations have been made about what is going to happen when it occurs. The GFOL has been very unsure about how large the ship will be and if it will move or stay stationary. They now know for sure and will allow me to tell, which the following is:

The ship will appear for a period of three days in Earth linear time. It will first appear in the morning as the sun rises. For the duration of the three day period it will remain stationary the entire time. As the sun sets on the third day, it will depart and leave. The ship is going to be of Sirian origin and will be close to a mile long, or approximately 4000 – 5000 feet in length. It will appear somewhere within the United States of America. Exactly where is still unknown. They will decide that a day before this event will take place.

On Friday, October 3rd, the United States of America did successfully pass their 700 billion dollar bailout plan that is designed to bailout Wall Street. The USA is now over 10 trillion dollars in debt. The USA is bankrupt! There were still a large amount of politicians that voted against it, and most have even stated that this will do nothing to help the economy. A small boost could probably take place for a month or so, and then it will continue to deteriorate. It is very important for everybody to know two things about this situation.

1) This is not your ordinary financial collapse. As written before, the definition of this type is: a collapse of a world empire due to bankruptcy which is maintaining the sustainability of a mediocre economy due to a manipulation of the monetary system to become based upon fiat currency.
2) There is nothing to fear at all. The Galactic Federation of Light and Ashtar Command are paying close attention to how this plays out. IF it gets to a point where a depression occurs, things will be done to make sure that nobody suffers severely for it. Prosperity funds would be immediately dispersed and aspects of NESARA will be implemented IF this financial crisis does evolve into a depression.

One of my good friends, who are one of my many ET contacts, wanted to make sure this message in which he wrote gets out to the people of Earth. He writes:

“The times you are all experiencing right now, within this moment and beyond, are moments that are educating you through the experiences you go through in which you exist and understand. They are showing you one thing which is that the lives you all live are fulfilling a Universal Destiny. One in which humanity takes a giant leap into what could be and what really is; the true form of you. Everything you are currently seeing with both your mind and eyes is informing you all that a new era of life is being born; a new bulb is being blossomed into a most beautiful flower in which you all can see, smell, and feel. The times of hardship, pain, suffering, negativity, hate, and most importantly greed is coming to an end. You have all, collectively, chose the path of Light and you are just starting to walk down it. The Grid of Consciousness on your planet has been collectively asking for assistance and we all have seen the progress your humanity has accomplished in implementing the world in which you live in with overpowering Light. You have all done your job in creating a unique path for all of you to experience the events of First Contact which leads to Ascension. You most beautiful souls of Earth, keep holding your light, and know that your time of destiny is here, and so are we as the time of our reunion approaches.”

-Rahkeel-
Member of the Galactic Federation of Light First Contact Liaison Teams

The Illuminati is sensing what is coming. Their greatest strength has become their greatest weakness. The institutions that were created to control and manipulate the world in which we all live in: the societal, political, financial, and religious institutions are slowly being shown for what they truly are. The organizations of power centered within the boundaries of the United States of America, the United Kingdom, and the Vatican are seeing the wounds they gave themselves within every level of their existence. Some members are “jumping ship”, fleeing from the inevitable demise of a corrupt system, towards a system based upon human compassion, love, morals, and ethics. Into an era where it matters not what you are worth, but what you are defined to hold: equality, intertwined with the oneness of humanity. For without money, the true existence of humanity can thrive; an existence in which humanity is being led to right now. Call it a destiny, for we are all on our way to claim it.

There will be new updates written every week as well as other messages.

Love and Light,

Commander Adama

Source: http://www.gfolmessages.blogspot.com/

malakai · 10-06-2008, 04:26 PM

This is a great adventure we are on and one day the survivors will write about it, as they have done.

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Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

I've known many warriors in my life... And they were always fighting something. I've known many survivors in my life.. And they were always trying to survive something. I knew a few lovers, they were always in love. I knew a few initiates. And they knew where to be when to be there and how to follow the currents of life.

I would say that I am all these..........

Let me ask you a question... As a survivalist, did you arm yourself?

Yes, of course I have, I am prepared for every senario I can think of.
These are strictly for self defence only and of course hunting.
I will tell you that I am ex-british military and trained physically/mentally to do what I have to do.

Again, do not worry about me. I am fine, have always been fine and will be fine

I won't die... Not yet, I have as a low estimate 50 years ahead of me.

Another question... Do you know WHY all this is going to happen? Do you understand the underlying physics for example?

I know that this will happen and has always happened, time and time again.
Why ? Nobody really knows why....but my gut feelings tell me that, we humans are just a virus on this beautiful mother earth and have been hurting her for 1000's of years since the last pole shift.
All she is going to do is hit the reset button and start again and maybe if there is any of us left, we hope to get it right the next time and My family and I will be one of these people left to get it right.Only luck will be the final out come, once you have done everything you can to prepare.

Luigi...
You are correct. I have nothing to add or object to your message.

That bait and switch you mention is prophecised. It will be attempted. It will also fail. But it will take a time before it fails. People will be fooled initially. The more educated we are the less time it takes for the fraud to become obvious.

The light is tripping up the efforts. Like water eroding stone. Slowly but surely...

Ali Quadir · 10-06-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by malakai

This is a great adventure we are on and one day the survivors will write about it, as they have done.

In one way or another... Yes...

Luigis Mushroom · 10-06-2008, 09:06 PM

Ali Quedar, thank you for you sentiments. I'm glad I'm not the only one that understands their true motivation.

First they say "we come only in love, have no fear" so that you know they're not fear mongering, they're the enemies of fear mongering. But they ALSO say that those who don't believe in them are going to get pulled into a trashy, parallel universe by "the dark ones."

I understand, they got my hopes up, too. I was really ecstatic about it at first because it seemed plausible, the timing was right, and Adamu's readings from Zingdad (not to be confused with commander adama) actually rang true to me, at least his first one, by his second one I knew the truth already. And it was a little bit of a shock when I learned the truth about their operations, but I had to get over it. They revealed the greatest flaw in their plan already, that you need to feel the truth in your heart. Of course, eventually they'll start barking orders, too. It's so easy to get enticed by their sales pitch, but doesn't this all feel a little bit wrong?

Ali Quadir · 10-06-2008, 10:47 PM

Just know Luigi that there are many factions out there. Most of them actually DO mean us well... You could consider their actions at this time those of parents who do nothing to give the child the chance to stand up for themselves. Like I said, they'll keep the garden clean. But they cannot force the seed to grow or or force it to be something that it's not. I object only to those et's that will take us by the hand and evolve us for us. And ofcourse those with more egotistical desires.

I personally do not connect to these messages Sanat posts, because they tell us what we must do and who to be. As opposed to explaining to us how to figure out what it is we want to do and how to discover what we want to be. They use mantras like love and light in such a way that it eventually numbs my mind. They talk about "Being who you are" without actually stating what that is. I am a mental person. I need to understand. I do not believe that the heart is the only organ that can understand. I expect all systems of information processing to work harmoniously. They also tend to take themselves extremely seriously. They do not play games. They are professionals with a job to do. Sanat even mentioned a galactic banking system which is a totally 3d concept based on the principle that there is only a finite amount of energy/money available per individual. It is difficult for me to accept this. Sanat follows his heart and feelings much more. Neither one is better or worse than the other. I am not ego less. So I might not always make this clear. But it is the truth.

If you want to see what I recognize as a channel of a higher dimensional entity. Check this vid.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...71449821338704

Note the continuous game playing by Bashar. Note the complete lack of moral judgement, it's all causality. There is no right there is no wrong in any absolute sense. Only causal effects related to who you want to be. Note how Bashar always always always pushes the people towards their own motivations. Always pushes people to synchronicity.

I like this. However, I recognize that it may be required for many people to follow another type of energy at this time. Sanat likely feels he learns best from his sources. None of us are the same and we tend to gravitate towards what is most valuable to US. So there is no right or wrong. We learn most if we follow our own instincts.

But in this, I think I tend to be more like you. A little suspicious and with a clear desire for understanding and autonomy.

I note you have some problems with my name

The correct pronunciation is something like "alikader". Don't worry, the correct spelling in English usually evades me as well. My nick on this forum is not likely correct

Sanat · 10-06-2008, 11:31 PM

It would be nice if you left any assessment of my person or motivations out of your posts, Ali Quadir. This thread is not about me, but about an event announced/predicted to happen on 14th october. Let's keep the focus where it belongs shall we?

Ali Quadir · 10-07-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanat

It would be nice if you left any assessment of my person or motivations out of your posts, Ali Quadir. This thread is not about me, but about an event announced/predicted to happen on 14th october. Let's keep the focus where it belongs shall we?

I tend to call things as I see them Sanat. And I can be direct in that. I apologize, I did not mean to cause you any negative feelings.

malakai · 10-07-2008, 02:01 AM

I have been waiting for this event my whole life, fingers crossed it happen and is not more dis-information.

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Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

I tend to call things as I see them Sanat. And I can be direct in that. I apologize, I did not mean to cause you any negative feelings.

Ali Quadir · 10-07-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by malakai

I have been waiting for this event my whole life, fingers crossed it happen and is not more dis-information.

So have I my friend. It's not a lack of desire that makes me skeptical about the Goodchild readings. I just cannot allow my desires to get in the way of my better judgement. I would love to be wrong about this. But considering all the evidence to the contrary and all the warnings I've received I must be skeptical.

Eventually it will happen.

KathyT · 10-04-2008, 08:53 PM

I am new to this forum. I am familiar with Project Camelot interviews. I am coming here because I may have suddenly become a whistleblower. I need to find others who have experience with Photoshop before I post further. I want to post a couple of photos, but don't know if that can be done in this forum. I think what I have is big. I need help with it.

viking · 10-04-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KathyT

I am new to this forum. I am familiar with Project Camelot interviews. I am coming here because I may have suddenly become a whistleblower. I need to find others who have experience with Photoshop before I post further. I want to post a couple of photos, but don't know if that can be done in this forum. I think what I have is big. I need help with it.

Ok .... If you are not sure use private message....

viking

THE eXchanger · 10-05-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KathyT

I am new to this forum. I am familiar with Project Camelot interviews. I am coming here because I may have suddenly become a whistleblower. I need to find others who have experience with Photoshop before I post further. I want to post a couple of photos, but don't know if that can be done in this forum. I think what I have is big. I need help with it.

send what you have to
support@projectcamelot.org
(bill & kerry) i am positive, will contact you

09-24-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elias

There was a good discussion going on about the October 14th event, which has been deleted by the moderators I suppose

Hi guys

First let me stress that no threads have been deleted!

Over the past few weeks the growth of Project Avalon has been phenomenal, and, as a result we've had numerous threads duplicated, posted in the wrong section or just not relevant to the Project Avalon mission which is, and I'll quote Kerry on this:

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Project Avalon needs to be about GROUND CREW MATTERS to do with building communities, safe places and making connections for the same.

To facilitate this the forum was taken offline for some 30 hours to enable anything that may not be relevant to the Project Avalon mission to be moved [not deleted] to holding area for review, then put back online in it's trimmed down form that you see now.

Time is of the essence in getting the message out to the groundcrew. Therefore the actions of the moderators may now seem ruthless, or harsh when we close threads that do not directly relate to Avalon..it's not.

We need to ensure that the groundcrew can access relevant information quickly without having to wade through numerous posts.

All threads in the Holding Area will be reviewed by the Moderating Team [who are ALL part time & unpaid] and if found relevant to Project Avalon will be moved back in. However, we have over 450 threads to review as quickly & accurately as possible, so please bear with us guys.

I'd like to take this opportunety to apologise on behalf of the Moderating Team in the event any member feels their thread was moved unjustly. That was not our intention. The clock is ticking..

rgds
Colin

viking · 09-24-2008, 04:05 PM

Ok Colin that's fair enough ..... but I do believe we should be more positive about this date... It could be the most important day of our lives !! so lets give it all... at least we tried...lets not be negative and say 'ahhh thats not going to happen' ect ect ...

FOR GOODNESS SAKE THIS BUS COMES ROUND ONLY ONCE IN A LIFETIME PERHAPS!!!

DON'T MISS THE RIDE.

viking

09-24-2008, 05:53 PM

Viking:

Have you listened to the new George Green interview?

It's sobering stuff..

viking · 09-24-2008, 06:58 PM

Yes I listened to it this morning .... ( I check for updates daily )

Yes very sobering...and as much as I respect/admire George Green I do think sometimes he can be a little negative and often predicts doom and gloom a little too much... I know its good for us too know what might happen so we are prepared for these events...but we must not poison our thoughts with such negativity.

However I also believe we can change certain things if we want it enough...we all know about the Universal Law of Attraction etc etc.. so why can't we all get together and change things for the positive..yes I know George has said we have gone too far for change and that there are not enough Ground Crew to change this time line....but I also believe that we should never give up hope and to keep focused on good things rather than what might happen!!

viking

SkyWatcher · 09-24-2008, 08:14 PM

Great idea Viking;
I also listened to George Green. Made me want to grab the kids, lock the door and hide under the bed (except for the fact that we live outside Chicago and will probably be nuked).
I am looking for that lining of silver in the clouds, because I can't afford to go purchase gold or silver at the store.
Any positive, good news is helpful and hopeful.

Peeking out from under the bed.
Nancy

Sanat · 09-24-2008, 09:11 PM

"I also listened to George Green. Made me want to grab the kids, lock the door and hide under the bed (except for the fact that we live outside Chicago and will probably be nuked)."

Take that feeling and compare it to how you feel when you read this:
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/...4.08SaLuSa.htm

Another confirmation of the 14 october event in this message:

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This particular period of time is drawing many Beings to Earth, who desire to help you overcome the many obstacles across your path. Rigid belief systems are a major difficulty to overcome, and it is so essential that you allow for other beliefs to expand your understanding. If not, many revelations that are about to enter your consciousness will be missed opportunities to break out of the conditioning that has held you back. Soon for example, there will be irrefutable proof that you are not alone in this Universe. Extraterrestrial craft are no strangers to your Earth, and contact with them is quite normal. What will be different is that the event of the 14th October sighting will happen in such a way that it will be undeniable, and open the door to First Contact.

If the dark was allowed to use nukes and other weapons of that caliber and worse humanity would be doomed as they would much rather destroy everything than to give up their power... The ETs can intervene to prevent this so don't worry.

If the dark has a plan don't you think the Light has a much better plan? I mean what kind of Light would it be if it did not have a better and more functiounal plan than the dark? Bud light?

Trust that a lot of things are taking care of themselves. We on this forum are not the only people working for the Light. A lot of good is happening behind the scenes righ now as the Light is penetrating ever deeper into the dark chambers. The dark cabal is in it's final death throes right now. The new is about to emerge as soon as the dark/old collapses. See it this way: The old was working perfectly for the dark...it would have no reason to collapse were it not for the New breaking through it from the inside.

Zenbuoy · 09-24-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin L Falcon

Hi guys

I'd like to take this opportunety to apologise on behalf of the Moderating Team in the event any member feels their thread was moved unjustly. That was not our intention. The clock is ticking..

rgds
Colin

I'd like to take this opportunity to THANK YOU and your team members for your work.

All of you guys are impressive!

ADAM KADMON · 09-25-2008, 12:44 AM

Hey guys;

I've looked into my "heart" regarding this matter... and I honestly feel the Oct 14th announcement is going to be a HUGE misdirection.

Remember 9/11? At the same time some Trillion dollars went missings. Of course, that was on the second page, and no one really cares because of the big burning towers.

Now imagine an "Alien Ship" that flies over the word, and then everyone catches the Avian Flu. All the sudden, we're UNDER ATTACK via micro-organisms. Be it a terrorist attack, or an "Alien Attack" it's going to happen at the same time we pass a bill that bankrupts America's economy.

These are THE SAME tricks they used for 9/11 except on a bigger scale. Learn from the past guys. Do no lose hope, but do not be blinded by the lights either...

Adam K.

elias · 09-25-2008, 02:20 AM

I agree with you Sanat!
No fear, even if they plan to use nuclear weapons, we are protected. We must ask and then we shall receive. We need this event to happen guys so be optimistic, we will not lose anything if it doesn't happen, because we have gained something already and it is named HOPE, and that is enough isn't it? HOPE is energy and that will shift our reality to a better one, so plz don't criticize it and let time tell if this is going to happen or not, and don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen because eventually it should happen.

Much Love and Gratitude ....

10-01-2008, 03:01 AM	#1
Morphious Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 73	Re: The October 14th Event .............. Last edited by Morphious; 10-01-2008 at 03:17 AM.

10-06-2008, 06:32 AM	#3
Luigis Mushroom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 43	Re: The October 14th Event I guess I'll keep trying anyway. Once again this was all taken from the message George Kavassalis left. They are not the spiritual hierarchy, they imitate the spiritual hierarchy. Honestly, what they're doing is an abomination to the divine order of this world. The Cabal works for them, the cabal has made us globally so frightened and hopeless that we prayed for help, and now help is coming, but this is the child of a society looking for an easy way out, and it reflects our inability to accept responsibility for ourselves. They will tell you many things such as "do not worship us, we are just here to help" or "we are not gods" etc... but you know who else said things like that? Jesus. Look how that turned out. One thing leads to another, and as the people being to trust them more and more, they'll take more and more status. And you know what they're going to do? They'll say real truths that ring true in your heart. They say things like "we are one" but listen to the tone, they have no idea what it means. They've been saying lot's and lot's of fundamental truths, but this is just to earn trust. These are all tricks cult leaders have used for centuries. It's like when someone writes a book about their life and in the book someone tells them "you will be regarded as a liar and a charlatan." Fantastic! Obviously since it was predicted that everyone will think they're crazy, then they're not really crazy at all! So at first they'll say ascension is between you and God alone, because that will ring true, then they're going to say "by the way here is an implant to 'facilitate' your ascension" and you'll experience a false sense of bliss caused by the stimulation of your nervous system as well as a telepathic link to... for lack of a better word, the mother ship, experiencing a false, language based sense of oneness. If you don't believe they're going to do a bait and switch, they already have. How come before they said "we will definitely be here on the 14th" and now they tell us they'll only arrive if our collective consciousness can vote them in? And according to Mr. Kavassalis, the places they have constructed to replicate the 5th dimension are abominations compared to the real thing. Real connection with the Divine Mother does not occur through language, it is based on pure understanding and pure love. Love... that is a very tricky word. It is the essence of everything, and yet not everything that people refer to as love is the love I refer to. With all this fear mongering, and all this hopelessness, it's no wonder people prayed so hard for saviors that some showed up to fit the bill exactly. I mean, doesn't it seem a little bit too perfect? And why exactly couldn't they come 30 years ago when millions of people were being tortured and disappeared in the war between US imperialism and Nationalism? No, they come now because now is when people want an escape route, they're looking for an easy way out and so here comes along the band of pretend angels to save you all. The truth is, we drew this, and we are continuing to draw it. It is a masquerade of truth and divinity, because as we collectively desire help, the flaws in our energy are being reflected upon what we are pulling in. What are these flaws? The truth is, we can change the world with out them, be we are unwilling and afraid. By the way, I am in no way, shape or form religious. I was raised christian and converted to atheism until finally the evidence for an afterlife became to overwhelming and broke me.

10-06-2008, 09:06 PM	#8
Luigis Mushroom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 43	Re: The October 14th Event Ali Quedar, thank you for you sentiments. I'm glad I'm not the only one that understands their true motivation. First they say "we come only in love, have no fear" so that you know they're not fear mongering, they're the enemies of fear mongering. But they ALSO say that those who don't believe in them are going to get pulled into a trashy, parallel universe by "the dark ones." I understand, they got my hopes up, too. I was really ecstatic about it at first because it seemed plausible, the timing was right, and Adamu's readings from Zingdad (not to be confused with commander adama) actually rang true to me, at least his first one, by his second one I knew the truth already. And it was a little bit of a shock when I learned the truth about their operations, but I had to get over it. They revealed the greatest flaw in their plan already, that you need to feel the truth in your heart. Of course, eventually they'll start barking orders, too. It's so easy to get enticed by their sales pitch, but doesn't this all feel a little bit wrong? Last edited by Luigis Mushroom; 10-06-2008 at 09:15 PM.

10-06-2008, 10:47 PM	#9
Ali Quadir Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 139	Re: The October 14th Event Just know Luigi that there are many factions out there. Most of them actually DO mean us well... You could consider their actions at this time those of parents who do nothing to give the child the chance to stand up for themselves. Like I said, they'll keep the garden clean. But they cannot force the seed to grow or or force it to be something that it's not. I object only to those et's that will take us by the hand and evolve us for us. And ofcourse those with more egotistical desires. I personally do not connect to these messages Sanat posts, because they tell us what we must do and who to be. As opposed to explaining to us how to figure out what it is we want to do and how to discover what we want to be. They use mantras like love and light in such a way that it eventually numbs my mind. They talk about "Being who you are" without actually stating what that is. I am a mental person. I need to understand. I do not believe that the heart is the only organ that can understand. I expect all systems of information processing to work harmoniously. They also tend to take themselves extremely seriously. They do not play games. They are professionals with a job to do. Sanat even mentioned a galactic banking system which is a totally 3d concept based on the principle that there is only a finite amount of energy/money available per individual. It is difficult for me to accept this. Sanat follows his heart and feelings much more. Neither one is better or worse than the other. I am not ego less. So I might not always make this clear. But it is the truth. If you want to see what I recognize as a channel of a higher dimensional entity. Check this vid. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...71449821338704 Note the continuous game playing by Bashar. Note the complete lack of moral judgement, it's all causality. There is no right there is no wrong in any absolute sense. Only causal effects related to who you want to be. Note how Bashar always always always pushes the people towards their own motivations. Always pushes people to synchronicity. I like this. However, I recognize that it may be required for many people to follow another type of energy at this time. Sanat likely feels he learns best from his sources. None of us are the same and we tend to gravitate towards what is most valuable to US. So there is no right or wrong. We learn most if we follow our own instincts. But in this, I think I tend to be more like you. A little suspicious and with a clear desire for understanding and autonomy. I note you have some problems with my name The correct pronunciation is something like "alikader". Don't worry, the correct spelling in English usually evades me as well. My nick on this forum is not likely correct

10-06-2008, 11:31 PM	#10
Sanat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 413	Re: The October 14th Event It would be nice if you left any assessment of my person or motivations out of your posts, Ali Quadir. This thread is not about me, but about an event announced/predicted to happen on 14th october. Let's keep the focus where it belongs shall we?

10-04-2008, 08:53 PM	#14
KathyT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: America Posts: 427	Re: The October 14th Event I am new to this forum. I am familiar with Project Camelot interviews. I am coming here because I may have suddenly become a whistleblower. I need to find others who have experience with Photoshop before I post further. I want to post a couple of photos, but don't know if that can be done in this forum. I think what I have is big. I need help with it.

09-24-2008, 04:05 PM	#18
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Re: The October 14th Event Ok Colin that's fair enough ..... but I do believe we should be more positive about this date... It could be the most important day of our lives !! so lets give it all... at least we tried...lets not be negative and say 'ahhh thats not going to happen' ect ect ... FOR GOODNESS SAKE THIS BUS COMES ROUND ONLY ONCE IN A LIFETIME PERHAPS!!! DON'T MISS THE RIDE. viking

09-24-2008, 05:53 PM	#19
Colin Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The October 14th Event Viking: Have you listened to the new George Green interview? It's sobering stuff..

09-24-2008, 06:58 PM	#20
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Re: The October 14th Event Yes I listened to it this morning .... ( I check for updates daily ) Yes very sobering...and as much as I respect/admire George Green I do think sometimes he can be a little negative and often predicts doom and gloom a little too much... I know its good for us too know what might happen so we are prepared for these events...but we must not poison our thoughts with such negativity. However I also believe we can change certain things if we want it enough...we all know about the Universal Law of Attraction etc etc.. so why can't we all get together and change things for the positive..yes I know George has said we have gone too far for change and that there are not enough Ground Crew to change this time line....but I also believe that we should never give up hope and to keep focused on good things rather than what might happen!! viking

09-24-2008, 08:14 PM	#21
SkyWatcher Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 100	Re: The October 14th Event Great idea Viking; I also listened to George Green. Made me want to grab the kids, lock the door and hide under the bed (except for the fact that we live outside Chicago and will probably be nuked). I am looking for that lining of silver in the clouds, because I can't afford to go purchase gold or silver at the store. Any positive, good news is helpful and hopeful. Peeking out from under the bed. Nancy

09-25-2008, 12:44 AM	#24
ADAM KADMON Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 99	Re: The October 14th Event Hey guys; I've looked into my "heart" regarding this matter... and I honestly feel the Oct 14th announcement is going to be a HUGE misdirection. Remember 9/11? At the same time some Trillion dollars went missings. Of course, that was on the second page, and no one really cares because of the big burning towers. Now imagine an "Alien Ship" that flies over the word, and then everyone catches the Avian Flu. All the sudden, we're UNDER ATTACK via micro-organisms. Be it a terrorist attack, or an "Alien Attack" it's going to happen at the same time we pass a bill that bankrupts America's economy. These are THE SAME tricks they used for 9/11 except on a bigger scale. Learn from the past guys. Do no lose hope, but do not be blinded by the lights either... Adam K.

09-25-2008, 02:20 AM	#25
elias Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 62	Re: The October 14th Event I agree with you Sanat! No fear, even if they plan to use nuclear weapons, we are protected. We must ask and then we shall receive. We need this event to happen guys so be optimistic, we will not lose anything if it doesn't happen, because we have gained something already and it is named HOPE, and that is enough isn't it? HOPE is energy and that will shift our reality to a better one, so plz don't criticize it and let time tell if this is going to happen or not, and don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen because eventually it should happen. Much Love and Gratitude ....