Burning man

[BROOK]

I believe the bonfire ritual started in 1986 on the beach for the summer solstice

The act of burning these effigy figures as a spontaneous act of radical self-expression. I don't believe is was about a divorce at all. In fact it had earlier roots by sculptor Mary Grauburger, who had been having summer solstice bonfires on Baker Beach in the bay area several years prior. It just grew from there

I must say I never say spray paint anywhere, and the leave no trace policy is very strict, and the clean up in the end is such that you can't see any environmental traces, I'm sorry but the burning man I went to was not the one you're describing

[dagon]

believe what you want. there are a lot of stories on the net. I don't want to get into a pissing contest. I have no need to defend anything. heck Im not going to burning man any more. I have more important things to do. I will however go there for other reasons as I have since a young adult. also having lived less than an hr from the black rock desert I think I have seen the carnage first hand. I would rather spend my time with he elders of a sweat loge and talk to the locals about such things. not get into some petty argument. I go there about 7-10 times a year. if you can get to the pinnacles on the north side of the lake next to the hot springs. tho ones that are all gated off. and say no tress passing. there you will see the paint. as well as (other) places. but I'm more concerned with other environmental affects and such, but I not here to see who can pee the farthest in the sand.



but by all means continue defending yourself if you like. I not attacking you. just giving you a locals point of view.

I also have heavy roots in SF. I know the story.(s)



(and so on)



http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/1986_1996/

FIRST THINGS
There is, of course, the founding myth: the story of how Larry Harvey and his friend Jerry James burned a wooden man upon the beach in San Francisco on June 21, 1986. Many stories now embroider this initial act: accounts of Larry's broken heart, his vanished love affair, his allegiance to his father—a self-made man, a carpenter, and the original bearer of the famous hat he now wears. Myths, however, are important because they represent the first and founding form of things. They are the seeds out of which things grow.

[dagon]

the drive by shooting range was pretty cool. safe to.

[BROOK]

I don't feel I need to defend myself, if you say the paint is there I'm sure it is, I just did not see it on my one and only trip there. It's a shame that anywhere you go there are those who must be intent on ruining the flow.

The basis of this thread was to share a wonderful experience for what it was, with my son who spent the time with his friends entertaining, which they did a great job of, and to share the art which was wonderful.

I know that the drug crazed lunatics were not in my camp, as my son went skydiving every day there at least twice, and cannot jump while under the influence. And although there is a Bohemian influence to the whole thing, I realize there are many there flying higher then a kite.

The point of the thread was that there was a great time if you can bring yourself to experience it.

As I stated there is a community there, and my experience there was as I described it. We shared, had meditation, POI classes, a stilt circus of sorts, that was what I wanted to share with the group here at Avalon

Sometimes we draw to ourselves our experiences. Thanks to my son who choose to invite me, he and his friends brought me into their circle of love and laughter, and I don't regret a minute of it. They respected me like I was their mother.
The art alone was worth the trip.

So in ending this debate about Burning man

I started this thread to share the art, community,and loving experience I shared with a wonderful group of very bright and caring young people.
I'm sorry your experience was not the same.

[dagon]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I don't feel I need to defend myself, if you say the paint is there I'm sure it is, I just did not see it on my one and only trip there. It's a shame that anywhere you go there are those who must be intent on ruining the flow.

The basis of this thread was to share a wonderful experience for what it was, with my son who spent the time with his friends entertaining, which they did a great job of, and to share the art which was wonderful.

I know that the drug crazed lunatics were not in my camp, as my son went skydiving every day there at least twice, and cannot jump while under the influence. And although there is a Bohemian influence to the whole thing, I realize there are many there flying higher then a kite.

The point of the thread was that there was a great time if you can bring yourself to experience it.

As I stated there is a community there, and my experience there was as I described it. We shared, had meditation, POI classes, a stilt circus of sorts, that was what I wanted to share with the group here at Avalon

Sometimes we draw to ourselves our experiences. Thanks to my son who choose to invite me, he and his friends brought me into their circle of love and laughter, and I don't regret a minute of it. They respected me like I was their mother.
The art alone was worth the trip.

So in ending this debate about Burning man

I started this thread to share the art, community,and loving experience I shared with a wonderful group of very bright and caring young people.
I'm sorry your experience was not the same.

I had many different experiences there, yin/yang. its a good thing to experience. especially if you have never been to such a gathering. its very powerful. but there are always 2 sides to the story. if not more. got to look at all sides. Im glad you had a good time. thats one side. so many get very excited about this gathering. I understand where your coming from. but if it was in your back yard you might think differently? this is a lot of pressure on fragile ecosystem. for a place with no services. and like my 2 post. there are organizations that teach about the fragile habitat of the area. as well as restoration. and clean up. thats a positive thing.



my experience were positive. you seem to be suggesting that It was my surroundings? or maybe Im personalizing this? but that isn't the case. its picking up trash after the event and staying after a few days. that breaks my hart. I'm a nature lover. what can I say.



cheers

[Dantheman62]

Thanks for sharing BROOK!

[BROOK]

you're welcome Dan

[Luminari]

Great thread Brook! I'd love to get over there.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Thanks for all the information Brook. The video of your son skydiving was amazing!
My son is a pilot. I am a very proud mama too, my son is also a really nice person to be with. It sounds like we have the same relationship with our sons.

I would love to experience Burning Man myself in person I know I would love it.

Thanks again for sharing