Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink

Swanny · 01-11-2009, 08:44 PM

Stuart Wilde - March 2004

I’ve said in the past don’t drink the Government water. It’s recycled sewage. The problem is they can’t get the heavy metals out nor many medications that wind up in the water. Fluoride is known to cause severe brain damage; it is stored in the pineal. There is no way to get it out.

Bottled water might be preferable as long as you stay away from Evian and Dasani. Evian has petrol in it for some reason that is not made entirely clear. Dasani is produced by Coke. They openly admit it’s just processed river water from the Thames. Inspectors in England don’t like Dasani as they have discovered it’s full of mysterious things not considered good for you. Half a million bottles of Dasani have been recalled. Coke buys the water out of the tap for almost nothing and sells it to you at a pound a bottle as pure spring water. What is interesting about this is not only the level of Coke’s racketeering but that Dasani water is the same water Londoners drink everyday––re-cycled sewage from the river. If it’s deadly in a Dasani bottle, it’s probably deadly from the tap.

Years ago when I lived in Australia, I enjoyed driving out into the bush in a four-wheel thingy. One day I came upon the reservoir that served the local town. That was a very horrifying experience. I had to have a little sit down to recover. The water was black, pitch black. I wondered how many kangaroos pooping in the bush does it take to change clear water to become black water? I didn’t have a calculator on me at the time so I came to no accurate conclusions.

I installed rainwater tanks at my house to catch the free water that falls from the sky. It’s very pure as kangaroo poop can’t evaporate and become a cloud, nor can heavy metals. Then I ran the water through a series of filters to get rid of leaves that might have flowed off the roof and finally I put the drinking water that is used in the kitchen through a reverse-osmosis system. Clean water at last.

People have been conned into thinking rain water is dangerous, that’s just to get you to buy the Government water, but in fact it’s the cleanest water around. If you have difficulty working it out, just remember kangaroos can’t fly. If you can’t install tanks then at least invest in a reverse-osmosis system. It gives you good protection and it’s much better than filters that aren’t small enough to catch anything other than the larger lumps of grit and poop.

© Stuart Wilde 2004 - www.stuartwilde.com

Czymra · 01-11-2009, 08:56 PM

Since I'm another happy resident of the UK, what water is safe to buy? Does the filtering stuff help and why the f*** is it all so difficult?

Swanny · 01-11-2009, 09:03 PM

Best to buy yourself a good water filter, I have one of these http://www.freshwaterfilter.com/prod...)_Home-GS2-SCD
I put tap water through it but it is ok to use with rain water as well.

This is the sort of thing you can use to drink water from puddles or rivers http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product357.asp

Don't waste your money on bottles of water, you will save money in the long run if you buy a filter and bottle your own, remember to use glass bottles and not plastic as the plastic can leach rubbish into the water.

Czymra · 01-11-2009, 09:16 PM

Well I have no constant home but that bottle looks excellent! Thanks!

But if I buy bottled water, which one is good? Vittel?

Swanny · 01-11-2009, 09:25 PM

The filter in the first link isn't very big and very light when empty.
Personally I wouldn't trust any of the bottled water as a daily water source

Barron · 01-11-2009, 09:29 PM

Distillation and reverse-osmosis machines will remove the fluoride if you have to drink water contaminated with fluoride by your local council. Check out the excellent Fluoride Action Network website if you want to know more about the dangers of fluoride including 23 studies that have linked fluoride with lowering your I.Q.!!!

Even some countries are trying to get flurode added to bottkled water, including NZ and Australia - see my post re this on here if interested.

Humble Janitor · 01-11-2009, 09:38 PM

I would never drink the rainwater around here because it's likely acid rain from the coal plants in the Midwest that blow **** up here.

But with proper filtering systems, I suppose I could give it a try. I do not buy Dasani or Evian (spelled backwards is "naive"..interesting!) and I sometimes filter tap water.

Swanny · 01-11-2009, 09:51 PM

Flouride in England

http://www.npwa.org.uk/index.php?vie...tent&Itemid=92

Czymra · 01-11-2009, 09:53 PM

That'd bring up a whole different explanation to why I feel more dumb since coming to England. 0-o

Wait a second. No fluoride in London? Surely I must get my share of other niceities.

Humble Janitor · 01-11-2009, 09:59 PM

Rarely drink tap water here so I don't know if has fluoride or not. Would have to get a water report.

Usually only stick to Poland Spring for bottled water and then there's the rare occassion that I will filter bottled water using a cheap Pur filter (better than nothing).

oldpaganfreak · 01-11-2009, 10:40 PM

i live a charmed life. i get to drink spring water that flows from the ground on our farm. it's lovely.

bodzoyfa · 01-17-2009, 12:10 AM

I work for a bottled water company and I am well versed in most popular brands. Swanny's right, Evian and Dasani are not good for you and distillation and reverse osmosis are intergral processes to choosing a good bottled water. (And Michael Tsarion would alert you to the fact that Evian is actually just Naive backwards. Go figure.)

The most important thing to look for when buying a bottled water product is to see that it has been distilled. The distillation process leaves behind metals and other harmful pathogens. The distillation process mimics the condensation-evaportation cycle that occurs naturally on earth. This is paramount in buying bottled water.

If you can find it, its also important to make sure that the water is purified with ozone and not fluoridation techniques. Some bottled water companies distill their water only to have it fluoridated after it is distilled. This is obviously no good.

One other thing I would suggest but is not as immediately important as the above is to test the Ph of the water you buy. Viruses and harmful contaminants that can live in water love an acidic environment. You can buy a Ph test kit and Ph balance drops for very cheap.

henners · 01-17-2009, 12:17 AM

Great post and nice replies. That is one of the reasons my wife, three kids and i want to make the move to Northern Queensland. Precisely Cairns. They get about 8 metres of rain a year, thats 24 feet approx.

A couple of rain water tanks and you are set.
Every body in the southern States, NSW, Vic, etc are being encouraged to install rainwater tanks for this reason. This is a typical example.

Good luck guys. I think you should all pack up and move to Australia. We need all the like minded people here.

Henry

Myra · 01-17-2009, 04:01 AM

Don't forget about Chemtrails! They are spewing and spraying a nasty soup in our air. Just make sure you remove those chemicals before you drink!

cantaloupe · 01-17-2009, 04:18 AM

Remember, here in the US it is likely that most any canned or bottled soda or sports drink or energy drink will have been made with flouridated water.
I have a multi stage system on the tap and it makes really good water. I consider what the city does is more like pre- filtering as the cr@p I clean out of stage I is pretty intense. I have yet to find a good shower filter; I know that you absorb all that through your skin too.

Carmen · 01-17-2009, 07:48 AM

I would recommend getting a copy of Victor Schaubergers book "Living Energiess' I think its called. In it he describes the properties of water and how to treat it. Water is a living entity, which means it is a growing entity. The long term use of distilled water is not a good idea because it will in time leach the minerals from your body to grow itself. This book is an absolute mine of information of water and other aspects of our earth. Actually the book is compiled by Callum Coates, I just remembered that.

mpea · 01-17-2009, 07:59 AM

For some wonderful info on water and how our thoughts affect it, check out some wonderful research by Dr. Emoto, link below.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twili...arch_emoto.htm

Connecting with Sauce · 01-17-2009, 11:01 PM

If you want to know about water filters, distillers and re-energisers I created a thread here which is sticky which discusses various methods...

http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/s...ead.php?t=7340

I use a Mini Classic II distiller and a living water energy vortex jug and take the water to work every day energised in the 3L glass container of the Mini Classic II. Blessing it is also worth doing....

Water is so so important or should I say unpoluted energised water is.

If it wasn't for the chemtrails I would capture rain too... probably alright for flushing the loo with though...

Anchor · 01-18-2009, 02:05 AM

We distill our water. Its the only way. Its expensive to do it, 2.1 kwh electricity for 4 litres.

Then we pour the distilled water over rocks that remineralize the water. These came from zazen living water company: http://www.zazenlivingwater.com.au . We don't use thier purifier, since it all looks a bit over the top to us, but we like thier rocks

01-11-2009, 08:44 PM	#1
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Stuart Wilde - March 2004 I’ve said in the past don’t drink the Government water. It’s recycled sewage. The problem is they can’t get the heavy metals out nor many medications that wind up in the water. Fluoride is known to cause severe brain damage; it is stored in the pineal. There is no way to get it out. Bottled water might be preferable as long as you stay away from Evian and Dasani. Evian has petrol in it for some reason that is not made entirely clear. Dasani is produced by Coke. They openly admit it’s just processed river water from the Thames. Inspectors in England don’t like Dasani as they have discovered it’s full of mysterious things not considered good for you. Half a million bottles of Dasani have been recalled. Coke buys the water out of the tap for almost nothing and sells it to you at a pound a bottle as pure spring water. What is interesting about this is not only the level of Coke’s racketeering but that Dasani water is the same water Londoners drink everyday––re-cycled sewage from the river. If it’s deadly in a Dasani bottle, it’s probably deadly from the tap. Years ago when I lived in Australia, I enjoyed driving out into the bush in a four-wheel thingy. One day I came upon the reservoir that served the local town. That was a very horrifying experience. I had to have a little sit down to recover. The water was black, pitch black. I wondered how many kangaroos pooping in the bush does it take to change clear water to become black water? I didn’t have a calculator on me at the time so I came to no accurate conclusions. I installed rainwater tanks at my house to catch the free water that falls from the sky. It’s very pure as kangaroo poop can’t evaporate and become a cloud, nor can heavy metals. Then I ran the water through a series of filters to get rid of leaves that might have flowed off the roof and finally I put the drinking water that is used in the kitchen through a reverse-osmosis system. Clean water at last. People have been conned into thinking rain water is dangerous, that’s just to get you to buy the Government water, but in fact it’s the cleanest water around. If you have difficulty working it out, just remember kangaroos can’t fly. If you can’t install tanks then at least invest in a reverse-osmosis system. It gives you good protection and it’s much better than filters that aren’t small enough to catch anything other than the larger lumps of grit and poop. © Stuart Wilde 2004 - www.stuartwilde.com

01-11-2009, 08:56 PM	#2
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Since I'm another happy resident of the UK, what water is safe to buy? Does the filtering stuff help and why the f*** is it all so difficult?

01-11-2009, 09:03 PM	#3
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Best to buy yourself a good water filter, I have one of these http://www.freshwaterfilter.com/prod...)_Home-GS2-SCD I put tap water through it but it is ok to use with rain water as well. This is the sort of thing you can use to drink water from puddles or rivers http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product357.asp Don't waste your money on bottles of water, you will save money in the long run if you buy a filter and bottle your own, remember to use glass bottles and not plastic as the plastic can leach rubbish into the water. Last edited by Swanny; 01-11-2009 at 09:05 PM.

01-11-2009, 09:16 PM	#4
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Well I have no constant home but that bottle looks excellent! Thanks! But if I buy bottled water, which one is good? Vittel?

01-11-2009, 09:25 PM	#5
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink The filter in the first link isn't very big and very light when empty. Personally I wouldn't trust any of the bottled water as a daily water source

01-11-2009, 09:29 PM	#6
Barron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 358	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Distillation and reverse-osmosis machines will remove the fluoride if you have to drink water contaminated with fluoride by your local council. Check out the excellent Fluoride Action Network website if you want to know more about the dangers of fluoride including 23 studies that have linked fluoride with lowering your I.Q.!!! Even some countries are trying to get flurode added to bottkled water, including NZ and Australia - see my post re this on here if interested.

01-11-2009, 09:38 PM	#7
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink I would never drink the rainwater around here because it's likely acid rain from the coal plants in the Midwest that blow **** up here. But with proper filtering systems, I suppose I could give it a try. I do not buy Dasani or Evian (spelled backwards is "naive"..interesting!) and I sometimes filter tap water.

01-11-2009, 09:51 PM	#8
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Flouride in England http://www.npwa.org.uk/index.php?vie...tent&Itemid=92

01-11-2009, 09:53 PM	#9
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink That'd bring up a whole different explanation to why I feel more dumb since coming to England. 0-o Wait a second. No fluoride in London? Surely I must get my share of other niceities.

01-11-2009, 09:59 PM	#10
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Rarely drink tap water here so I don't know if has fluoride or not. Would have to get a water report. Usually only stick to Poland Spring for bottled water and then there's the rare occassion that I will filter bottled water using a cheap Pur filter (better than nothing).

01-11-2009, 10:40 PM	#11
oldpaganfreak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: great northern boreal forest Posts: 440	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink i live a charmed life. i get to drink spring water that flows from the ground on our farm. it's lovely.

01-17-2009, 12:10 AM	#12
bodzoyfa Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: east side Posts: 109	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink I work for a bottled water company and I am well versed in most popular brands. Swanny's right, Evian and Dasani are not good for you and distillation and reverse osmosis are intergral processes to choosing a good bottled water. (And Michael Tsarion would alert you to the fact that Evian is actually just Naive backwards. Go figure.) The most important thing to look for when buying a bottled water product is to see that it has been distilled. The distillation process leaves behind metals and other harmful pathogens. The distillation process mimics the condensation-evaportation cycle that occurs naturally on earth. This is paramount in buying bottled water. If you can find it, its also important to make sure that the water is purified with ozone and not fluoridation techniques. Some bottled water companies distill their water only to have it fluoridated after it is distilled. This is obviously no good. One other thing I would suggest but is not as immediately important as the above is to test the Ph of the water you buy. Viruses and harmful contaminants that can live in water love an acidic environment. You can buy a Ph test kit and Ph balance drops for very cheap.

01-17-2009, 12:17 AM	#13
henners Project Avalon Researcher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 432	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Great post and nice replies. That is one of the reasons my wife, three kids and i want to make the move to Northern Queensland. Precisely Cairns. They get about 8 metres of rain a year, thats 24 feet approx. A couple of rain water tanks and you are set. Every body in the southern States, NSW, Vic, etc are being encouraged to install rainwater tanks for this reason. This is a typical example. Good luck guys. I think you should all pack up and move to Australia. We need all the like minded people here. Henry __________________ Henners Thoughts are boomerangs, returning with precision to their source. Choose wisely which ones you throw.

01-17-2009, 04:01 AM	#14
Myra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So Cal Coast USA Posts: 340	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Don't forget about Chemtrails! They are spewing and spraying a nasty soup in our air. Just make sure you remove those chemicals before you drink!

01-17-2009, 04:18 AM	#15
cantaloupe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 151	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink Remember, here in the US it is likely that most any canned or bottled soda or sports drink or energy drink will have been made with flouridated water. I have a multi stage system on the tap and it makes really good water. I consider what the city does is more like pre- filtering as the cr@p I clean out of stage I is pretty intense. I have yet to find a good shower filter; I know that you absorb all that through your skin too.

01-17-2009, 07:48 AM	#16
Carmen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 992	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink I would recommend getting a copy of Victor Schaubergers book "Living Energiess' I think its called. In it he describes the properties of water and how to treat it. Water is a living entity, which means it is a growing entity. The long term use of distilled water is not a good idea because it will in time leach the minerals from your body to grow itself. This book is an absolute mine of information of water and other aspects of our earth. Actually the book is compiled by Callum Coates, I just remembered that.

01-17-2009, 07:59 AM	#17
mpea Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Ives, Cambridgeshire. UK Posts: 146	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink For some wonderful info on water and how our thoughts affect it, check out some wonderful research by Dr. Emoto, link below. http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twili...arch_emoto.htm

01-17-2009, 11:01 PM	#18
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink If you want to know about water filters, distillers and re-energisers I created a thread here which is sticky which discusses various methods... http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/s...ead.php?t=7340 I use a Mini Classic II distiller and a living water energy vortex jug and take the water to work every day energised in the 3L glass container of the Mini Classic II. Blessing it is also worth doing.... Water is so so important or should I say unpoluted energised water is. If it wasn't for the chemtrails I would capture rain too... probably alright for flushing the loo with though...

01-18-2009, 02:05 AM	#19
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Water Everywhere Nor a Drop to Drink We distill our water. Its the only way. Its expensive to do it, 2.1 kwh electricity for 4 litres. Then we pour the distilled water over rocks that remineralize the water. These came from zazen living water company: http://www.zazenlivingwater.com.au . We don't use thier purifier, since it all looks a bit over the top to us, but we like thier rocks