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Old 11-19-2008, 11:31 AM   #1
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Default Brazil: "Body Heat Sensors to Track Lost Tribes"

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) — The Brazilian government will begin using a plane equipped with body-heat sensors to locate — and protect — uncontacted Indian tribes in the Amazon, officials said Tuesday.
Locating the tribes will help the National Indian Foundation create reserves where loggers or farmers are barred, Antenor Vaz, who heads the work on isolated tribes for the agency, known as Funai.



I'm glad to see that the Brazillian gov. is ostensibly looking out for these lost tribes(of course it would be nicer if the gov didn't have to step in to stop loggers and farmers from encroaching on these lost tribes' native lands), but there is always the chance of bringing a new disease into the isolated communities, and that the searchers' presence might be misinterperated as has happened before.




Sounds like some interesting heat signature technology. At first I thought it might be hard to separate animals from humans but, I suppose it's not that hard to distinguish an animal's heat signature from a human's if there's a large village of humans.
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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A little suspicious here.

Sounds like a good reason, but I don't trust their motives.

Finding them is also a good way to infiltrate, experiment, eliminate them.

Indigenous peoples of the world are the least consideration of the elite, except for experimentation, of course.

Just a gut feeling.

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Old 11-19-2008, 12:24 PM   #3
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I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling that they're doing this for the benefit of the tribe either.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:50 PM   #4
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I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling that they're doing this for the benefit of the tribe either.
Yeah I'm skeptical of the official motives as well. That's why I posted this.

Although I'm not quite sure what threat these tribes could possibly pose to the gov., so I can only assume that they are trying to usurp native lands by moving the "lost tribes" into "protective reserves" for "thier own good".

It's interesting too because these are the types of communities that seem naturally suited to survive the (natural) earth changes that may be coming, as everything they use is produced w/in their isolated communities. Maybe there's a connection there.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:14 PM   #5
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I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling that they're doing this for the benefit of the tribe either.
neither do I.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:35 PM   #6
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Yeah I'm skeptical of the official motives as well. That's why I posted this.

Although I'm not quite sure what threat these tribes could possibly pose to the gov., so I can only assume that they are trying to usurp native lands by moving the "lost tribes" into "protective reserves" for "thier own good".

It's interesting too because these are the types of communities that seem naturally suited to survive the (natural) earth changes that may be coming, as everything they use is produced w/in their isolated communities. Maybe there's a connection there.
That was my original thought, either that or whose left on the planet that's not on the grid?? Hmmmm.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:56 PM   #7
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Hi deepblu777,

Now you're on my turf in Project Avalon.

I have worked with the Fulni-ô Indians in the Norteast of Brazil for some years, recording their music and producing CDs for them to sell whenever they present their dances to the non-indian. I have been doing this now since 1999. I also know about Funai and how it works. Suffice to say the Indigenous population is not very happy, as in my experience and from the experience of the Fulni - ô 'Medicine Man' - he not only treats people with his medicine but is also responsible for the spiritual care of the tribe members - the consensus is that the indians are treated like third rate citizens.

In Águas Belas, the municipal region where the Fulni - ô village is, the non - Indian town has an infra-structure, however within one step of the 'limits' the infra-structure ends. The last CD I produced was of an Indian called Lillissacar, called "Onde o Asfalto Termina" (Where the Asphalt Ends) as a mild mannered critic of that situation.

There are many corrupt and incompetent people in Funai, mostly from the Recife office of the public agency placed there in exchange for political favours. I recently won a court case against Funai for copyright infringement where they copied songs from one of the CDs I produced to create a 'Funai' production. That was sweet justice.

Although I haven't been to Amazonia, I do know Funai. It's a good possibility that they don't want to know where the isolated indians are. It could be that want to know where they're not!

Illegal logging and de-forrestation is rife in Amazonia. The political entities know where this is happening but appear to do very little to try and control the situation, partly because of them apparently slipping bribes into their pockets and also political pressure from the IMF.

The public outcry about this is huge here in Brazil with political groups calling for the end of this illegal trade. Now that everybody knows where the loggers are, it could be that they are wanting to change their area of action, going further into the forest. If they had opposition (from the indians) there would be another outcry.

It's another story to follow to see what happens....

Best regards,

Steve





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A little suspicious here.

Sounds like a good reason, but I don't trust their motives.

Finding them is also a good way to infiltrate, experiment, eliminate them.

Indigenous peoples of the world are the least consideration of the elite, except for experimentation, of course.

Just a gut feeling.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:16 PM   #8
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Lotta hard work there Steve...how grateful you must feel to be able to really do something wonderful!

I'm a 'late learner' myself...I'm finding I crave more and more information on most anything...archeology, anthropology, geology, physics, REAL HISTORY...I don't see an end...

I recently learned that the devastation of the North American Indian population was more along the lines of 6 to 10 million. Such a heart ache!

My mom was descendant of North American Nation, my husband's mother a descendant of Mayan Nation.

But no matter the Nation or part of the world, of course, it's all personal.

You, Dear, on my heart list!

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