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Old 10-27-2009, 11:23 PM   #1
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August 21 2001 Crop Circle next to Chibolton Radio Telescope decoded- 1974, Dr, Carl Sagan send a message to outher space thru Arecibo Radio Telescope in Puerto Rico. The answer was received in the form of crop circle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BcROq3G0GY

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Old 10-28-2009, 12:14 AM   #2
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August 21 2001 Crop Circle next to Chibolton Radio Telescope decoded- 1974, Dr, Carl Sagan send a message to outher space thru Arecibo Radio Telescope in Puerto Rico. The answer was received in the form of crop circle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BcROq3G0GY

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viking: thks for this vid. interesting indeed. I wonder who the messenger was refering to about deception, were they suggesting human deception, or other worldly deceptions? While the warning seems legit, it leaves questions.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:13 AM   #3
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Great Vid, there are a handful of crop circles that are unquestionably of off-world origins and this circle was the ice breaker in 2001.

This was a response to a 1974 transmission from the Arecibo radio telescope, that Carl Sagan helped design, which was sent out looking for extraterrestrial life.

The "circle" appeared overnight and a face right next to it, which presumably is what the sender looks like. The face is a unique style of circle artistry, resembling half tones which produce the sense of a painting, rather than a pattern made from crops being laid down. Inside the formation it is impossible to get any idea of what it is, which only can be seen from the air. There is no discernible way for anyone on Earth to have executed this formation


I suggest this page for further reading
http://partyflock.nl/topic/1036199:E...ek_met_ET.html

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What's different in the Crop Formation?
After extensive analysis I have discovered nine major discrepancies between what we see in the crop field at Chilbolton and the original message that we transmitted to the stars in 1974. I shall leave any interpretation until later, but for now just highlight the differences. The exact detail of these changes couldn't be confirmed until I actually visited the formation on the ground, in order to accurately check the binary code - reading flattened crop as a 0 and standing crop squares as 1's.
Rather than point out the differences in order of importance or anything, I shall merely start at the top of the pattern and work downwards.

The numbers 1 to 10 appear exactly the same in the formation.
However the atomic numbers indicating the prevalent elements making up life on Earth, has an additional value inserted into the binary sequence. This is precisely added in the correct location, and in the original binary code (therefore it can't be a mistake). Decoding from the crop formation, this additional element has an atomic number of 14 = Silicon.

Moving down, the next change is an obvious one - consisting of an extra strand on the left side of the DNA double-helix. Another, less obvious, change is in the binary coding of the number of nucleotides in DNA itself (in the center). If you look in the diagram above, I've highlighted the changes more accurately on the right, by using red squares and outlines to indicate which 'digits' have been changed in the crop formation.
There are quite significant changes to the shape of the humanoid, which becomes almost 'alien-like' and to the diagram of the Arecibo dish. For clarity, I've not bothered going over these in red because the differences are easily apparent.

Either side of what is now an ET, there are changes to both the 'population' figure and also the height value. The latter is now 1000 in binary, or 8. If we multiply this by the original 'wavelength unit' we get 8*12.6cm = 100.8cm which is roughly 3'4" - interesting, because this would correlate with ET witness accounts.
Below this we notice additional changes to the Solar System chart. The third planet from the sun is not the only one 'highlighted' now. The fourth and fifth are as well. The fifth even appears to be emphasised even more, with three additional 'pixels'.

Lastly, what was representative of the Arecibo transmitter in the original message is even more cryptic and would imply a diagrammatic version of the formation which appeared in the same field at Chilbolton last year, in 2000. This can be viewed in my database, reference uk00ee.
The binary code for the size of the transmitter is also altered. I'll leave the reader to work out the new value....
Its a long page but makes alot of sense. Though i want to know why has this obvious reply from ET's gone largely unnoticed for 8 years and counting?
And with a timespan of 27 years from message to reply we can narrow down the SETI parameters to 25 lightyears or so i would start with Gliese 581C a rocky earth like planet in the Libra constellation
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:15 AM   #4
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viking: thks for this vid. interesting indeed. I wonder who the messenger was refering to about deception, were they suggesting human deception, or other worldly deceptions? While the warning seems legit, it leaves questions.
Thank you Viking for this. WFTW, they were referring to an ET race as bearer of false gifts and broken promises. It all tight down with the message received from the book 2 "Allies of Humanity" received by Marshall Vian Summers.

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Amazing read Thanks Gaia... recommended reading...

And thanks Steven I'll look into your books "Allies of Humanity" received by Marshall Vian Summers. Mmmm very interesting to say the least...

"an ET race as bearer of false gifts and broken promises". I was aware of the message but never thought of it from that angle!!!

Thanks again Guys.

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Old 10-28-2009, 06:26 PM   #6
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Thank you Viking for this. WFTW, they were referring to an ET race as bearer of false gifts and broken promises. It all tight down with the message received from the book 2 "Allies of Humanity" received by Marshall Vian Summers.

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Tks Steven.....I have not heard of the book....will have to put that one on reading list.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:57 PM   #7
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This was already covered a while ago in the very long and interesting thread by astralwalker. The whole thing is available here as a pdf file: http://projectcamelot.org/astralwalker.html

Still very interesting message in those crop circles.
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This was already covered a while ago in the very long and interesting thread by astralwalker. The whole thing is available here as a pdf file: http://projectcamelot.org/astralwalker.html

Still very interesting message in those crop circles.
Yes, but Astralwalker made so many assumptions in his thread that once all dots connected, there was no more than a few survivors left on Earth.




I want to point out here that there might be a mistake. This is the version the ET made as crop circle in response to Carl Sagan's binary coded message. Here you have the description of an ET race corresponding to all description Carl Sagan made about us Human. The mistake is about the position of their home planet in their constellation, but the description point it out as our solar system showing our solar system planets. I don't think it is our solar system, but rather theirs, the larger dot being their home planet.

Yes Viking and WFTW. Book one is for the one who really have no idea about aliens. It was received in the late 80's and it is very soft reading, almost nothing new to us. Book 2 goes further in detailed about an actual intervention of an ET alliance of races happening now on Earth, in correlation with some men in power. The goal is to take over the planet progressively by convincing humanity to recognize them as true leaders and masters of Earth and all life on it. Imagine what happens next... I will copy and paste what I wrote about it on another thread...

Here is the official site of AoH from MVS: http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

The speaker who claim to be a member of a race dwelling very far from us in our galaxy says that our galaxy is made of several federations and alliances. Some larger than others with different goals and mentality.

But in the overall, there are basic laws that are accepted by all alliances. One of these laws are the prohibition to invade another race by force. If done so, it could trigger a large scale war between many nations. It will not happen because the ones doing the intervention here have too much to loose, always according to the speaker.

So, the only mean by which they can take over the planet is by convincing us human, the rightfully responsible being in control over Earth and its life recognized by these alliances, to give away our sovereignty to these new masters. This is a way that all alliances are actually accepting. There was wars before in our galaxy but not anymore. It was a very long time ago and it is not present anymore in our galaxy.

So, they have to do it very very progressively, by creating overwhelming problems, letting us believe the source of these problems are ourselves and then, after realizing that we can not overcome these global problems, they would come out with solutions, free energy being one that might be brought to us by them. In return, we accept to recognize them as true leader of planet Earth and all its life.

The allies of humanity have themselves experienced this kind of manipulation in their history. It took several centuries to them to take back their sovereignty. That is why they came here to send the alarm here on Earth.

Another important detail they mention is the reason for this intervention. They are interested in resources, more importantly us as a resource.

We show a great diversity of emotions in the spectrum of emotive frequencies. These diversity is very rare in the Galaxy. Because emotions produce certain types of molecular compound of chemicals in our brain, only possible to be created naturally, they use us, especially children, to produce these chemicals and trade them in a market we would call a "black market" in the galaxy. This is prohibited but well known to many alliances and federations in observer mode. They are apparently observing and have not decided to intervene directly or not because of this market yet. They are debating it.

They also specify in what kind of alliance these intervening races are in. They say they are kind of resources explorer and traders. Compared to other alliances geared toward scientific/spiritual evolution. They emphasized that these races are not military powers so to speak. But much more master of illusion and highly mentally trained to convinced.

They mentioned that the key to get rid of them is by developing our own spirituality. Developing what they call the Knowledge. An inner source of intuition (we have talked a lot about this in other threads).

They never mentioned if these were reptilian or else. Only that this alliance is made of several races. They did mention that same races are often in different alliances, sometimes even opposed by totally different mentality.

They also get into more detailed saying that our corner of the galaxy is a highly trading space, where there is much activities of this kind.

Edit: I'de like to add this about Marshall Vian Summers. From all the contactees I have heard, MVS is by far the most honest. He dig deep into his experience and have discerned very well all information he received. He really cares about being honest and true with the ones interested in his message. A very impressive man, wise, clever and an expert discerner.


Namaste, Steven

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Well yeah, can't say I agree with the opinion of Paul Lafayette and the invisible force coming towards Earth faster than the speed of light that will incinerate everything, that is mentioned in Astralwalkers thread and plays a large part in the final parts, but most other stuff is more or less possible.
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Well yeah, can't say I agree with the opinion of Paul Lafayette and the invisible force coming towards Earth faster than the speed of light that will incinerate everything, that is mentioned in Astralwalkers thread and plays a large part in the final parts, but most other stuff is more or less possible.
Indeed Daydreamer. As well as the interpretations AstralWalker made on many crops circles...

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Hi Steve,
How do you know if its all part of a Black Ops operation?

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Yes, but Astralwalker made so many assumptions in his thread that once all dots connected, there was no more than a few survivors left on Earth.




I want to point out here that there might be a mistake. This is the version the ET made as crop circle in response to Carl Sagan's binary coded message. Here you have the description of an ET race corresponding to all description Carl Sagan made about us Human. The mistake is about the position of their home planet in their constellation, but the description point it out as our solar system showing our solar system planets. I don't think it is our solar system, but rather theirs, the larger dot being their home planet.

Yes Viking and WFTW. Book one is for the one who really have no idea about aliens. It was received in the late 80's and it is very soft reading, almost nothing new to us. Book 2 goes further in detailed about an actual intervention of an ET alliance of races happening now on Earth, in correlation with some men in power. The goal is to take over the planet progressively by convincing humanity to recognize them as true leaders and masters of Earth and all life on it. Imagine what happens next... I will copy and paste what I wrote about it on another thread...

Here is the official site of AoH from MVS: http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

The speaker who claim to be a member of a race dwelling very far from us in our galaxy says that our galaxy is made of several federations and alliances. Some larger than others with different goals and mentality.

But in the overall, there are basic laws that are accepted by all alliances. One of these laws are the prohibition to invade another race by force. If done so, it could trigger a large scale war between many nations. It will not happen because the ones doing the intervention here have too much to loose, always according to the speaker.

So, the only mean by which they can take over the planet is by convincing us human, the rightfully responsible being in control over Earth and its life recognized by these alliances, to give away our sovereignty to these new masters. This is a way that all alliances are actually accepting. There was wars before in our galaxy but not anymore. It was a very long time ago and it is not present anymore in our galaxy.

So, they have to do it very very progressively, by creating overwhelming problems, letting us believe the source of these problems are ourselves and then, after realizing that we can not overcome these global problems, they would come out with solutions, free energy being one that might be brought to us by them. In return, we accept to recognize them as true leader of planet Earth and all its life.

The allies of humanity have themselves experienced this kind of manipulation in their history. It took several centuries to them to take back their sovereignty. That is why they came here to send the alarm here on Earth.

Another important detail they mention is the reason for this intervention. They are interested in resources, more importantly us as a resource.

We show a great diversity of emotions in the spectrum of emotive frequencies. These diversity is very rare in the Galaxy. Because emotions produce certain types of molecular compound of chemicals in our brain, only possible to be created naturally, they use us, especially children, to produce these chemicals and trade them in a market we would call a "black market" in the galaxy. This is prohibited but well known to many alliances and federations in observer mode. They are apparently observing and have not decided to intervene directly or not because of this market yet. They are debating it.

They also specify in what kind of alliance these intervening races are in. They say they are kind of resources explorer and traders. Compared to other alliances geared toward scientific/spiritual evolution. They emphasized that these races are not military powers so to speak. But much more master of illusion and highly mentally trained to convinced.

They mentioned that the key to get rid of them is by developing our own spirituality. Developing what they call the Knowledge. An inner source of intuition (we have talked a lot about this in other threads).

They never mentioned if these were reptilian or else. Only that this alliance is made of several races. They did mention that same races are often in different alliances, sometimes even opposed by totally different mentality.

They also get into more detailed saying that our corner of the galaxy is a highly trading space, where there is much activities of this kind.

Edit: I'de like to add this about Marshall Vian Summers. From all the contactees I have heard, MVS is by far the most honest. He dig deep into his experience and have discerned very well all information he received. He really cares about being honest and true with the ones interested in his message. A very impressive man, wise, clever and an expert discerner.


Namaste, Steven
Many tks Steven for sharing this info with us here. Now I know I must read that book.
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Hi Swift.

Because of the amount and quality of different contactees who shared their messages. Just to name some of them I consider important with their message.

Marshall Vian Summers: He wrote several books and still does write and give speeches. His message received from ETs is about an intervention done by an alien alliance secretly on Earth.

Alex Collier: Never wrote books, but many speeches are available. His message also was received by ETs and he mentioned in detailed the intervention done by aliens on Earth.

George Green: Mr. Green Handbook for the New Paradigm series (4 volumes) are also received from ET, or rather ED and mentioned about an alien intervention on Earth.

Tony Todd: Not a contactee, but a very serious researcher came to the conclusion there was an alien secretive presence among us that threatens the sovereignty of humanity.

Bod Dean: Mentioned several times that there was alien secretive presence on Earth interconnected to a shadow government.

Jim Marss: Also a serious and experienced researcher in this field has wrote a book called Alien Agenda, a MUST READ...

Jordan Maxwell
:A researcher who came on this very conclusion as well, that we are under preparation for a new order were the rulers will not be humans.

Zecharia Sitchin:The translation of the summerian tablets and Sitchin's interpretation clearly shows an alien intervention has already been done thousand of years ago.

And in my personal case, I have known a person in Brasil, who became a friend who received a message from an ED telling that we were being visited secretly for the purpose to take over the planet progressively.

And lastly, my own experience, which I am not ready to share in detailed publicly yet. But clearly showed me that we are under an intervention from an alien alliances of races.

Just to name a few, I could go on and on with more evidence, but these are the ones I consider of prime importance.

A Black Op use high technology, but has its limits. It would not be able to synchronize all these information coming from so many different sources. And I'm only pointing out anglophone sources. There are contactees all over the world receiving messages in all tongues. And ultimately, they can not compute spiritual messages, like the ones I personally experience.

Namaste, Steven

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Hi Steve,
Well said Steve and I tend to agree we never been alone. Like yourself I had a number of encounters from early age to present. The authors you suggest are very good indeed and please then tell me why is it that society find it so hard to take in ?
In contact situation from orbs, UFOs or Ets they all seems to show clues which we as humans tend to decipher is our own ways which is a problem as we all have been programed by society influnces ( Max Weber)?

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