[Harper]

Well truthsayer,

At last a beauitfully reasoned argument, tis perfect and I must admire but decline to totally agree.

But I do agree with the whole 'get on with it' bit which is, these are the requirements, take em or leave, it trully is that simple.

No one will ever find their truth in a group -- its impossible, you just find as many truths as there are members. Make up your own mind, if you are wrong who the hell cares, you won't learn one thing about life if you are always correct.

All the places we find ourselves in life are just steps to somewhere else, so nothing can be definative or the best; its totaltomfoolery to replace one belief system with another to find out that you went from following one group of people to following another (differently dressed) group. Look around and listen to everything, we all die alone, know yourself better before it happens to you. Question every group activity, every one!

Live and don't give away any experience you have, place one on top of last and keep climbing !

take it easy

gg