Appendix to my Post 122:
THE GRAND UNIVERSE - NIBURU, THE ANNUNAKI... by Mister Billy E. A. Meier.
(Translated from German by Dyson and Vivienne and made available on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:24 am.
Original german Text to be found here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=1192)
Pleiadian/Plejaren Contact Reports Volume 5
228th Contact
Monday, May 1st, 1989, 6:05PM
Pages 472-478
[Billy and Quetzal, continued their Conversation]
Billy:
.. .our astronomical scientists continue to stubbornly assert that our
universe is only just 8 -15,000,000,000 years old.
They have no idea that the visible universe is only one of seven belts
of the universe.
They have no idea at all about the belt of our material universe, in
which we exist materially, while on the inner side and the outer side
of our visible, material-universe belt yet six further fine-matter
belts exist.
Our scientists also have no idea that the entire universe constitutes
a double spiral and egg shaped Creation, and so on.
The entire universe, with an age of around 46,000,000,000,000 years,
reckoned from the Big Bang up to today, will indeed expand up to the
point in time of 155,500,000,000,000 years, to then, through a
contraction, collapse upon itself again.
During its expansion, the material belt, respectively, our visible
universe, is - through a nearly endless process of transformation -
constantly renewed and therefore always stays young.
The oldest material that you have found is close to 40,000,000,000
years old, while we here on the Earth still have obtained no such
material, and for that reason our scientists also dwell in erroneous
assumptions.
Now, after my long speech, my question is: when - after the coming
into existence of the material belt, respectively, our visible
material universe - did the first stars actually form?
In my opinion, this process must have gone very fast.
Quetzal:
78. That is unknown to us, and besides, your question can also not be
answered in this manner.
79. You must start from the point at which the last great process of
transformation-and-renewal of the material universe - therefore of our
visible material universe - took place nearly 17,000,000,000 years
ago.
80. Thereby, in the inner part of the outer regions of the material
universe belt - not in the outermost part of the actual transformation
areas - at a distance of around 14,000,000,000 light years from the
solar system, new stars formed again which, after around 187,000,000
years of the latest great transformation process, began to radiate and
shine.
81. And, in the next decades, these stars will also be discovered by
the terrestrial astronomical scientists.
82. Only, unfortunately, they will again draw false conclusions from
that, as they have already done so often.
Billy:
And how, then, do these stars in the transformation belt come into
being, if I may ask?
Quetzal:
83. That does not fall under our secrecy provisions.
84. The new material which comes into being through the renewal,
respectively, through the transformation, condenses under the enormous
universal gravity and in this way it forms - by way of a compression
of the mass - a stellar body which becomes more dense and develops a
tremendously hot life of its own.
Billy:
Easily said, but surely a process which takes many millions of years.
But, with that, I am already at my next question: is it possible to
make a determination about the material mass in our visible material
universe if one completely excludes the other six belts?
Quetzal:
85. It would be unscientific and arrogant to want to do this, because
the entire expanse of our universe is so big and involved in a
continuous transformation, that a precise calculation is impossible.
86. Besides, our universe - as naturally also every other - consists
not only of coarse-matter material, rather also of pure energies, of
which one is black energy, as we call it, and is responsible for a
certain form of anti-gravity in the material universe and, according
to estimates, constitutes three fifths of all universal energies.
87. Matter must also be visible in various forms, so dark matter, on
one hand, directs the visible and tangible matter which, very meagre,
is calculated at circa point five fifths of the galaxies, while, on
the other hand, the dark matter yet amounts to one point five fifths.
88. However, as stated, these data are only based on assumptions and
calculations based on estimations, which, as a result of the visible,
material universe's continuous transformation, are not constant,
rather they are extremely changeable.
89. To want to name precise results would therefore be nonsensical and
arrogant and laughable as well, because precise computations cannot be
made because of the universe's continuous change.
Billy:
One could indeed say with justification that our universe's material
belt is essentially governed by black energy - or?
Quetzal:
90. That is of correctness.
Billy:
We do know that the entire universe will not expand forever, it will
expand only until 155,500,000,000,000 years from now and then succumb
to the contraction.
With the expansion process of the entire universe, the visible
material universe also always gets bigger, if I regard the whole thing
correctly.
And because that has to be like that, differing temperatures would
probably also have to rule in our universe, because, I assume, warm
and cold must come into being through the constant movement of change.
Am I on the right track with my assumption?
Quetzal:
91. That is of correctness.
92. The temperature fluctuations are, however, universe-wide, and very
minimal, yet they emerge primarily in those parts of our material
universe, in which the uninterrupted change occurs by means of the
outer immaterial belt.
93. It thereby concerns itself with the transition-less open
transformation zone, as we call it.
Billy:
This zone of change engenders a soughing sound, as Ptaah taught me on
the great trip.
I was also permitted to hear it over the technical device in the Great
Spacer.
It was simply gigantic.
Ptaah explained to me that the Earthlings name this phenomenon cosmic
background radiation and assume that that is the zone where the Big
Bang took place and that the end of the universe is also there.
Quetzal:
94. Which does not correspond to accuracy, as you know.
Billy:
Naturally, because indeed the essential entire universe first begins
there, with its six other immeasurable belts.
Ptaah also said that the temperature differences are actually only
very slight and therefore only tiny variations underlie them which
emerge as a result of fluctuations, which would be evoked in all
regions of our universe through differences in density.
Quetzal:
95. You are a human with a very noteworthy memory.
96. Your exposition corresponds to accuracy.
Billy:
Ptaah and you as well as Semjase have said that our Milky Way has
about 570,000,000,000 suns with planets, but that, in addition to
that, there are only about 7,000,000 smaller and bigger solar systems
with planets on which higher forms of life exist.
Are planetary satellites, respectively, moons also included therein?
Quetzal:
97. Yes, because in certain solar systems with enormous central suns
there are planetary giants with tremendous gravity which are too big
to be able to bear higher forms of life, while their moons, however,
are very much in a position to do that.
98. In your understanding, we do not, however, call these objects
which bear life moons, rather planet-planets.
Billy:
Quite so, because they are actually planets of a mother-planet - or?
Quetzal:
99. That is of correctness.
Billy:
And the 7,000,000 solar systems in our galaxy with planets, on which
higher forms of life exist: does that collectively deal only with
human civilizations?
Quetzal:
100. No
101. The universe with all its galaxies is very thinly settled with
human forms of life, whereby that also includes dimensions shifted in
time and space, respectively, all existing space-time configurations.
102. Many planets and moons carry only very lowly microscopic organic
life, or only forms of life like mammals, birds, fish, beetles and
insects, and so forth, which have nothing to do with higher forms of
life.
Billy:
Then I have misunderstood some things, because I was of the view that
you have always spoken in such a way that indicated that the forms of
life were only humans.
Quetzal:
103. Then you have succumbed to an error, if you have assumed that the
approximately 7,000,000 solar systems with their planets only
correlate to human civilizations.
104. Perhaps you have really ...
Billy:
.. .understood something wrongly.
Quetzal:
105. That is what I wanted to say.
106. Known to us, in this galaxy, are only 2,630,000 highly developed
human civilizations, which actually belong together, whereby, from
other galaxies known to us, a further 1,141,000,000 can be factored
in.
107. We know of 1,040,000 civilizations which are developed to an
essentially low level in this galaxy which you call the Milky Way.
108. Our scientists estimate that in the entire universe about
6,000,000,000,000 to 7,000,000,000,000 essentially human
civilizations, of higher and lower form, would have to exist in your
material space-time configuration.
Billy:
What do you understand by "human civilization which essentially belong
together"?
Quetzal:
109. That phrase is to be understood as meaning unity of collective
progress, which is created through science and technology and thereby
also includes developed and improved medical, social and material
living conditions, and so forth.
Billy:
There are very clever people on the Earth who assert that the solar
system consists of twelve planets, whereby the Sun and the Earth's
Moon are also counted as planets.
And since until now only the nine planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are known - therefore
nine - yet another planet is made up and added with the name of
Niburu, and further labels such as Anus, Planet-X, Marduk, Phaeton,
Olam, Vulkan and Persephone, and so forth.
So, together with the Sun and the Earth's Moon, and Niburu, the stupid
thesis of twelve planets in the solar system is supposedly proven.
The Anunnaki people supposedly lived on Niburu and they supposedly
gave all kinds of help to the Earth humans.
As a young wandering planet, the planet Niburu - as it is asserted
today - was supposedly captured by our solar system around
4,000,000,000 years ago, and - always according to this assertion - it
then developed.
Niburu is meant to have thereby penetrated into the inner solar system
and effected, respectively, evoked, certain alterations of the inner
planets and moons before it disappeared again to then become aligned
into an orbital period of 3,600 years.
And - in opposition to that which corresponds to the truth, that the
Earth fundamentally formed from material from space, from gas,
planetoids, and so forth, and that the Earth's Moon, as a satellite
from your space-time configuration, was captured by the Earth - it is
asserted that the Earth had been a part of the planet Tiamat and our
Moon was once the largest moon of Tiamat.
Niburu's last pass through the solar system supposedly occurred about
160 years before Jmmanuel's birth.
[My own Note: Jmmanuel stands for Jesus Christ.]
What is to be made of all that?
Quetzal:
110. These stories are known to me, because I have studied diverse
ancient terrestrial texts, also including many cuneiform tablets,
among others.
111. That is why I know that the humans in Akkadia, Babylon and in
Sumer already knew the planets of the solar system, and so forth.
112. However, that which emerges from old texts regarding the Annunaki
and the planet Niburu is based on mythological facts as well as
beliefs, misguidance and erroneous assumptions.
113. The Annunaki beings were a pure imagination of the Earth humans,
who, full of fantasy and according to their beliefs, fabricated the
"Annunaki people from the planet Niburu", as the giant shape in the
sky appeared, which truly did not deal with an actual planet, rather
it concerned an uncommonly big comet, which actually does have an
orbital period around the solar system of around 3,600 years.
114. That therefore only entered as myth into the imagination of the
ancient Earth humans. Indeed, it truly never existed, because the
comet is not in a position to bear human life.
115. It must be said in addition to that, that the designation Phaeton
is completely wrongly used, because Phaeton was the planet which was
destroyed by its inhabitants, namely Malona, which shattered into
thousands of pieces and today forms the asteroid belt.
116. Regarding the planet Malona, respectively, Phaeton, it is also
wrongly asserted that that was the planet from which the Earth and its
Moon arose.
117. Tiamat, namely, is a designation born of an old Earth language,
for the planet Phaeton, respectively Malona, which was destroyed
through human irrationality.
118. Now the only thing still to say is that a big planet, with great
speed, on the other side of the Sun, orbits the star and can therefore
never be seen from the Earth.
119. It deals thereby with an uninhabited planet which we have given
the name "Kathein", which, however, will drift out of the solar system
in the time to come.
120. But that does not concern the aforementioned comet.
121. And apart from that there are yet two different belts on the
other side of the orbit of Pluto, in which comets and wandering
planets move, a great number of which penetrate into the inner solar
system at regular, periodic - albeit sporadic - intervals.
122. Thereby diverse ones of these can also sporadically endanger the
solar planets, which, again and again, at greater intervals in time,
also leads to comets actually impacting with planets.
Billy:
Can you please explain somewhat more about that?
Quetzal:
123. The first belt - a zone - is located up to more than 150,000
astronomical units from the Sun.
124. An astronomical unit thereby corresponds to the mean distance
from the Sun to the Earth, thus 149,597,870 kilometres.
125. At an earlier time, when the Giza Pyramids were built, this
distance however still amounted to 152,500,000 kilometres, a number
which is also of enormous significance in regard to the calculation of
the entire universe's 280 elements.
126. 150,000 astronomical units corresponds to around 4,000 times the
distance from the Sun to the planet Pluto, which is essentially the
last of the planets in the solar system known to the humans.
127. All other objects outside the orbit of Pluto already belong to
the zone of the first belt.
128. It ...
Billy:
Excuse me, but then what is it with the tenth planet, that is
supposedly zooming around out there?
You have always spoken of such a tenth, and further planets.
Quetzal:
129. In addition to the smaller planets far outside the orbit of
Pluto, it deals thereby with the Earth-sized planet "Kathein", which,
with very great speed and at a great distance, follows its orbit
around the Sun, however, in the coming years drifting away more and
more, and disappearing into space.
130. Its period of orbit around the Sun is so big that, seen from the
Earth, it remains constantly hidden behind the Sun.
131. But listen further:
132. Located in the aforementioned first zone of the first belt far
outside the orbit of Pluto, are, according to estimations,
1,300,000,000,000 smallest, small, medium-sized, large and largest
objects, of which - again according to estimations - some
130,000,000,000 cometary nuclei must be taken into consideration.
133. But furthermore there is yet a second zone, respectively, a
second belt, still very much further outside of the first belt, which
- like the first - draws itself in a ring shape around the solar
system.
134. Innumerable objects of all sizes are also in this belt, and so it
speaks for itself that there are also very numerous cometary nuclei.
135. As in the first, there are also very large objects in the second,
which are as large as the Earth or even bigger.
136. As a consequence of the great distance from the Sun and the
absence of light from the objects in dark space, even with good
telescopes they can hardly be seen from the Earth, or cannot be seen
at all.
137. With the two belts, which can also be designated as rings, this
deals with the remnants of that gigantic primordial cloud of gas,
particles and objects, and so forth, from which the solar system, with
all its planets, ultimately formed more than 5,500,000,000 years ago.
138. But the cloud's primordial matter did not form at the
aforementioned time, rather it already formed more than 46,000,000,000
years ago, and then, in the course of time, condensed into its final
form, and supplied the substance for the solar system more than
5,500,000,000 years ago.
139. Here and there objects drift away from the two aforementioned
belts, as do cometary nuclei, which penetrate into the inner solar
system.
140. In other words:
141. If a fixed star occasionally reaches a certain astronomical
proximity, then its effect is that single cometary nuclei, from the
many billion smallest, small, middle-sized, large and largest objects,
loosen out of the bands of the two zones and occupy a course in the
inner solar system.
142. Many of the comets - such as the one we have spoken of as Niburu
- move back again to their outermost regions of origin outside the
inner solar system after their approach to the Sun and its planets -
also the Earth - or they take an inner system course, so they
therefore stay in the direct solar system as the system's own comets
and they constantly, recurrently, follow their courses.
143. Many, which return to the outermost two belts' zones, remain
there for a very long time before they come back.
144. So the duration of the stay in the belts can be centuries,
millennia, many millennia or even hundreds of millions of years before
they return on their course again in the inner solar system if they
were, or are, forced into a recurrent course by the Sun and its
planets.
145. Others, on the other hand, become torn from their course by
planets, by their moons or by the Sun, and, bursting asunder, impact
with them.
Billy:
Thank you for your explanations.
Regards,
RaKaR
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