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Old 01-05-2010, 08:30 AM   #32
3optic
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Default Re: Dr Steven Greer. Why the Certainty ?

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Perhaps we need a thread titled 'Ethics 101' or 'Ethics for Dummies' or 'Whatever Happened to Karl Menninger?' We chose this...and we chose that. We created this...and we created that. There is no right or wrong...but thinking makes it so. There are no victims. The 9/11 'victims' chose to go through that event. There are no evil ET's. Everything is as it should be. Where the hell do we get this Sugar Coated BS?
I find myself swinging back and forth on this subject. orthodoxymoron's view as expressed here is a very succinct and potent expression of the dualistic side of the argument.

"9/11 "victims" is a particular frame that gets chosen in the mind. Are they victims? Of what? Death? Of murder maybe? If I were to meet a similar fate and others feel compelled to call me a victim would that be a descriptive epitaph? Ugh! Who is the "I" that is repulsed by this notion?

In his PC interview, Greer made some references to dualism/ non-dualism. Given the contentious nature of the discourse this may have struck some as funny. Here are some of my favorite clips on the subject of non-duality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48jk1...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyLIYVrd5U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivwDfGf0_IU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=BqOgR61zAlo&feature=fvw
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