I forgot to post this one up. I was invited to dinner by a couple of former MUFON investigators the other night and in the parking lot after we where done eating I showed them the pics I had taken that I posted earlier in this thread. I then took the camera out with them right there watching, asked for craft to show up along the tree line in a picture for me, then snapped off 3 pics. I was then able to just load the pics right onto the computer right there for everyone to see. I was lucky enough to catch one craft on one of the three pics. This was in a fully lit parking lot, with full cloud cover blocking out any stars. Once again I put the camera on automatic with the flash on and just snapped off the pics. Nothing could be seen by the naked eye with the camera.