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Old 02-04-2010, 01:17 PM   #1066
abraxasinas
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Default Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

My dear Abraxas,

If humans depend on the vibratory rate of the collective and the vast majority still feels “trapped” within it, what would be the best way to break free for the skeptic one (or someone who is not really "attunned" yet)?

Hi Juli!
The 'skeptic' in a sense will have an easier 'time' to adapt, than the 'true 'supernaturality' believer'.
Both are 'tunnel-minded', in not accomodating 'deviating ideas'; but the skeptic, priding himherself on 'scientific rationality' will be able to 'rationalise' and accept physical changes in the environment; whilst the supernaturalist will relate physical environmental changes to the 'works of the devil' or such.

This is the 'good thing' about the general 'brainwashing' of the populus. Over 95% of 'fence sitters' will simply adapt to a new 'status quo' without questioning such changes.
As before, this 95% will seek to 'be guided' by whatever 'change of guard' has eventuated.

The other 5% includes the 'Powers-That-Be' (PTB), who have fully accepted the ET-esoterica-spiritual reality of the human history at a 'central neutral position' and the two polarisations of the skeptical rationalists and the supernaturalists.
The so called 'New Agers' and relatives so are most closely able to 'contra' the neutral position of the say illuminati-luminari (brotherhood of the serpent); - as long as the 'alternatives' can 'overcome' their own brainwashing and infiltration(mainly by disinformation regarding ETs, UFO etc) by the PTB.

Is it fair to say that the awakened ones are helping the un-awakened by their mere presence making efforts to awaken someone else really unnecessary? In this sense, at least to me, STO originates with STS first.

Yes, the mere presence is sufficient as the 5% is halved in so 2.5% (actually 2.77%) say as 200 Million in 7,200 Million.


Many talk about transmuting the lower energies and blockages into love, etc. etc. perhaps because they’ve found out they’ve done it after the fact. Humans are very impatient in nature and want to know how to do this. I’ve found that it’s very hard to convey to someone else an experience that is so intimate and unique for each one. I know each awakens at their own time and I’m sure the ones who have “heard the call” being lightworkers (or whatever they like to call themselves), have found a way to deal with these issues because they are more aware than most. Many of them think they have mastered everything and have no issues whatsoever to work on anymore, and perhaps some have. But, what troubles me is that some “New Agers” sound very self- righteous and I think this creates more of a divide than anything else; not to mention the infiltration of the PTB in order to cause even more confusion. The “average-Joe” instinctively rejects what cannot be proven and felt fist hand perhaps due to the intense programming experienced.


Yes, you have discerned this very well indeed. Some of the most self-righteous personas I have encountered, call themselves 'New Age', 'Lightworkers', 'Enlightened Goddesses/Gods' etc. etc.
Much of the 'New Age' is more based on egocentricity, than the 'Skeptics Socities'.
An easily applied criteria is always the fiscal angle. Does the 'New Age' 'make money' or 'build careers' and if so, does this lead to extravagant lifestyles?
Engaging in lecture tours and such, can certainly be a noble endeavour; but a 'true advocate of the spirit' would NOT change his 'individual lifestyle' to correlate with say 'travel necessities' and then go on holidays on yachts or live in extravagant mansions like a filmstar, whilst 90% of humanity lives in physical poverty and deprivation. The disinformations I have already mentioned in the paragraph above this one in preemtiness.



So, my question is: What is the best way to approach friends and family members about the need to prepare for this “Shift of the Ages”? What about the people we don't know? How to help them? Do the Thubans have some practical advice they can share now as to how to be in sympathetic resonance with the energies coming to Earth?


Yes, simply tell your truth as you see, experience and feel it, without fearing consequences such as ostracism or loss of your status as a peer in whatever group mileu you find yourself associated with. Of course the more data you have to feed your superconscious in remembrance through the mirror of the subconscious for your waking consciousness, the more able you will become to 'believe' your own truth.


What do the Thubans think of the 10 commandments? Is Billy Meier’s “Talmud of Immanuel” a hoax?

The 10 commandments became replaced by Yeshuah's 2 commandments; not in the spirit of the 'You shall not..', but in the interpretation into lawfulness.

About Billy Meier. The below critique on Jim Deardorff's claims about the 'sterilization of women' being an anachronism (forgery in application of time sequencing) at least indicates that at least some of the Meier material and including the 'Talmud of Immanuel' material serves self-propagandist purposes.
(see http:/http://home.swipnet.se/corbie/Fuskwww/dear.html/ )

Sometimes the lack of any quotation marks leaves doubt as to where a quotation ends and the narration recommences. Then the translator or editor may misplace the end-quotation mark. There is one spot in the TJ where this appears to have occurred:
TJ 12:4-5 (4) It is written, however, "Whosoever commits adultery and fornication shall be punished, because the fallible are unworthy of life and its laws; thus they shall be castrated or sterilized." (5) If unbetrothed men and women bed down with one another in disgrace and without loving each other, they shall be punished also, for those fallible are unworthy of life and its laws; thus they shall be castrated or sterilized.
The quotation marks are shown here where the German editions of the TJ have placed them, at least up through its 2001 edition. However, the clause "because the fallible are unworthy of life and its laws..." must be where Jmmanuel's words have resumed (...)

Proves nothing except that Meier made his quote a bit too long for Deardorff's taste.
The quoted passage is interesting from other points of view though. It speaks of sterilization of women, a surgical procedure which requires opening the abdominal cavity. Such surgery was unknown before the 19th century. This is clearly an anachronism.
The phrase "bed down with one another in disgrace and without loving each other" is also an obvious anachronism which reflects the modern idea of "falling in love" as a precondition for sex. An ancient text speaking of careless extramarital sex would simply have said "fornication".


I do NOT support the overall skeptical 'debunking' of all such 'New Age' material, as stated by the author, but support the above rationalisation and evidence.
In the TJ it is claimed that Jesus was born 6AD, a date not supported by the Thuban archives (there it is 6 BC).


What do the Thubans think of adultery and killing in self defense?

Adultery does not exist as a 'lawbreaking' statute in Thuban; as there 'is no marriage in the kingdom of God'. The soul by definition will be FREE to pursue its path towards unification (in reflection) with the primal source.
On Thuban, it is the female (expressed from the quadruplistic genetic complex), which is genetically and biologically defined to engage multiple partners. This also was the natural law on Gaia in the matriarchical societies.
In practical terms it is 'much harder' for a male to satisfy multiple female partners, than vice versa.
This does not mean that temporary monogamous partnerships are discouraged; the emphasis is that no 'marriage contracts' of 'ownership' and such are 'made law' on Thuban.

As the soul is immortal by definition; the 'killing in self defense' is rather similar to any other 'killing'. The perpetrators and victims are both required to process their thoughts, deeds and actions in self-consciousness self-awareness.


What do the Thubans think of demonic possession and exorcism?


Once the label 'demon' is understood to be part of the 'occultized' superconscious selfhood; the idea of something other than self possessing this self becomes untenable.
In 4D the astral notions of the Incubus (male demon possessing a female 'sleeper' say sexually) and the Succubus (as the female demon possessing the male) have a potent reality relative to the 3D 'sleepers'.
On Thuban, the Incubus and Succubus become the fourfolded sexual selfhood in a form of highly eroticised Self-Possession.


How do the Thubans explain Stigmata?

A real manifestation of 'astral' 4D energy manifesting in 3D by ElectroMagnetoMonopolic Radiation EMMR-selfinduction (EMMR=Scientific Definition for the Spirit as differentiated sourcew energy).

How do the Thubans explain spontaneous human combustion? Does this happen also in a different world or dimension or ET race?

This is a related EMMR induction, manifesting through the circulatory nerve-neuronal-blood channels linked by endocrine (chakra) systems.
If a biochemical system like the human body exists, this energy transform can occur. It is however always based on the 3D core-seed.


What does the X symbol mean for the Thubans? Will it mean the same as this cross (+)?


X=24 and relates to the Egyptian hieroglyph and ren=name of the cartouche of the Ankh. It is the 2nd resonance of the perfect number F=6=Mirror of Hathor, the 1st resonance being O=15=Circle=Sirius=Sothis=(Tarot Devil).
It symbolises Immortality in say the 24 Elders about the 4 Elemental Beasts about the Monad of 'God's Throne' in (archetyped) heaven.

What does it mean if a child sees this (X), say… on the walls; at the same time she starts seeing people’s auras? Does it mean anything if a child always draws the combined symbol of one superimposed on the other?

It's again this most potent archetype of the immortality of the soul. A child doing what you describe REMEMBERS its own immortal selfhood of the disincarnate selfstate.


Could a walk-in experience happen at childhood? Do all walk-ins know they are one?

Walk-Ins DO NOT replace the existing soul, but complement the same. So a walk-in can occur at any time in the incarnation and simply represents a 'soul merger' leading to an enhanced remembrance of the 'family-soul'. A walk-in so simply represents a 'fuller' expression of the soul, as all souls are just such Family-Souls, as for example exhibited in the fundamental quadropolar sexual cosmic identification matrix.


Some think Jesus is incarnate and walks on Earth at this time as Maitreya. What do the Thubans think of this?

Indeed Jesus is 'walking the earth' - as a 'hidden' part of the Family-Soul within EVERYONE.
This was the purpose of the Resurrection and the Transfiguration from the 'individual particle form' into its encompassing waveform.

So all the 'crazy ones', claiming to be Jesus are actually correct in their underinformed selfexpression of 'the (w)hol(e)y name'.
All the ones expecting or 'manufacturing' some 'future' individual, say emerging from a spacecraft as 'Jesus of Nazareth' or the 12th Imam or Kalki or a new Buddha or Maitreya are in a manner 'deluded' or 'deceived' by their own expectations and mistranslations of the archetyped 'holy writs'.

The crux (x=+) of the matter is that 'Jesus' knocks on all doors/hearts KNOWING that heshe is already there.
It then becomes the 'AntiChrist's' 'task' to attempt to 'deny entry' for the 'Cosmic Christ' in its required and necessitated function to fulfil all prophecies and timelines to the latter's completion.

Abraxasinas



best regards,


Juli

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