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Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion
Free will is just that, you are free to do whatever but no one is excempt of the law of action, reaction and consequence. That is the nature of this Universe
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So I can not make any choice, I can only pick among the choices given to me?
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Originally Posted by Peace of mind
Life here is just a learning stage.
Maybe you are just bored, probably just tired of all the BS in life, tired of sorting thru the mounds of confusing and conflicting information coming at you from all directions, tired of the way people act towards each other. It can be exhausting and upsetting, but it also enriches the soul if you recognize all the lessons and blessings that are attached to everything you encounter. Live your life to the fullest, love friends and foes for what they teach you. Control the ego so it doesn’t reside in adverse conditions. What you go thru here is to prepare you for the next phase into eternity. Don’t let the dealings of this temporary reality place limits upon you.
When your time is up and you still choose to have no parts of your experiences archived, I’m sure that can be arranged. Ask and you shall receive…but be careful what you wish for.
Peace
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Very close if not a direct hit... I am tired of practically everything (including myself).
Also some very nice words but I have no motivation or ambition etc to do that. I know what I wish for. It is like sleep - without dreams.
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Originally Posted by greybeard
Hi again
If the Creator is rejected and that Love is allways available, then I have read that the soul goes to one of the lower astral realms, degrees of hell.
If this world is pergatorial then these places are many times worse.
Is there any chance you are suffering from depression?
I ask because I have felt similar to you.
Times I just couldent see the point of it all and felt unloved by God. I looked for oblivian in alcohol and paid a heavy price for that free will choice. A hell of my own making.
It was only when I had enough humility to ask for help that I got sober through AA and the God of my understanding.
If you are depressed see a Dr. or get help of some kind there is allways a way out of your own personal hell.
Best wishes
Chris
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Worst place than earth? Is that possible? Well I admit...I live in Europe - one of the more privileged parts of this world. My ass is in a warm place, I have access to food and water, I can even go and buy myself Xbox360 with a nice big screen and some top games... Not like someone that has to search for drinkable water everyday and knows nothing about an item like Xbox.... But I do not care much about that either...
If there is no memory of past life...than I probably will not regret what I am doing now...and also the all good loving mighty one...will just have to do better than trying scarring me into "living up to expectations"
I might be...depends on how you define it. I do not drink alcohol..my father was an alcoholic...the memory is hard encoded so there will be no alcohol for me, I also do not smoke or do drugs...never did...I also do not do crime, do not fight (never did) etc... I have a job, I greet my neighbors, I visit my grandmother, I even let the old ladies to take my sit on the bus....I am a "good" little human....
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Originally Posted by Gnosis5
Can you model the concept that you yourself are the creator of every effect you are the receipt of? That is the operating definition of Creator -- wanted to create an effect [on himself] as Single Deity.
So he [you] had to create some space, some light, co-existence, some individuality, some awareness, truth, decency, ideas, a playing field, players, a game(s), ultimately some unconscioiusness, and I could go down the list, but it stacks up to everything you choose to be the receipt of NOW.
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So I am the creator, I decide about everything regarding me? But if I am the creator...than you also are..and we are one...how can I than do what I want if I am a part of you an everyone else?
If I am the creator I choose in NOW to end my existence.
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Originally Posted by RedeZra
It is possible to merge with Mr. Oneness
in fact that is the point
to step out of fantasy and enter Reality
which is One
that implies
there cannot be two
so it is One
all this time you thought you were you
with a body a name and a mind of it's own
Uniqe yes but different from the One no
it is Only One
for the One it matters not if our minds are still or not
It's point of view is above the clouds of confusion
but we might conjure up a thunderstorm
and blame our bad luck
we become what we think but we are not our thoughts
but the One
beyond the thoughts and the thinker
the One
Being Aware in Bliss
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Thank you for taking the time to write this.
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Originally Posted by Moxie
I think you are, in a round about way, stating by positing questions, that we may indeed Not have free will.
The term free will is so overused and really, I've not yet seen a good definition of what it means.
If I truly have free will, could I just decide or choose to become a professional thief? No, it's not in me to do that, that choice I do not have. Could I decide to be a sexual lover of my same gender? No, it's not in me, that is not an option for me to choose. Could I decide or choose to become not exist at all? No one can answer that now can they? Can I choose or decide for my body to stop functioning, for my heart to stop beating from pure thought?.... nope, don't think so.
Many speak as thought their their "personality" continues on. I say it does not. What exactly is left when your body is gone? What is the point of having "character" without a body?
If we are all made of the same stuff, that same stuff is left after your personality is dead and gone. I do not think that your personality continues to exist, but then again, what do I really know? Pure speculation.
I have no memories of another existence, nor, if I had subjective experiences of having been out of my body (which I have) does that prove that I would exist without my body. That's my take.
I don't think we have free will to the extent that most think we do.
But I do understand your stance Spregovori... and there is nothing wrong with wanting to no longer exist. I don't have an ethical or moral problem with your wanting that.
I don't think that anyone truly knows what happens when this body dies.
I know that I do not want to live in another state where every time that I eat something has to die. I would not ever want to create an existence where a being has to experience death either. I wonder
sometimes what sort of god created this existence....
but then, I'm just sputtering nonsense, it's okay to think and speculate.
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Yes..you are correct...this (among other things) is what I am stating. If I can not choose to end myself in all possible ways...I have no free will.. and at that moment...I could not care less for any "divine laws" etc
There never was a definition...there are only guesses...and perceptions of this on an individual personal level. Actually you can choose to be a thief or a same sex lover...nothing can stop you...but yourself.
Choosing to end the soul...now that is rather difficult if you do not know - how to do it.
Indeed...much if not all is just speculation.
What sort of a being created this existence? I could try to answer this but than the thread would get deleted due to the violation of verbal violence.
and since I am at work now I do not have the necessary time to form the answer in acceptable manner.