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Originally Posted by Moxie
With the greatest of respect toward you and others, may I make what I see as a vital point for you all to contemplate and consider about the name Jesus.
Look into any large dictionary (not online, but a book) and notice how few pages exist in the J section. There's historical reason for that... the letter J having developed from the I and the I from the Y together w/the fact that there was no "J" sound 2000 yrs ago.
And also consider that when a person's name is spoken in another language, the pronunciation of a name does not change. In other words, if your name is Thomas, the name would always sound like Thomas and its spelling would reflect that. Ask yourself, why has this name come to be spelled & pronounced entirely different than its original? And why do you continue to use it if you know this? Who are you really calling on when you use a name that did not exist? Are the results of the use what's important? Cannot a thief bring you results that you may be looking for, if it's an advanced being?
That said, would it not be more accurate, inclusive and non-controversial to use the title of Christ, in this day of the name perversion, considering that many here are sticklers for Truth? Is it not the consciousness that matters, Christ consciousness, meaning its attributes/character?
Many say that the name does not matter. I think it is a lie, as in there was an intention behind it's development.
Swerdlow says the name is Immanuel (like Ezeki-el, Gabri-el, Micha-el, EL being god). Others say Yah-shua (coming in his father's name YHWH).
Does it matter? and who is really being called when one uses an eroneous name? Inquiring minds may want to know. Ignorance exists and just may be the route of entry for manipulation.
Again, I write w/sincere intent of Truth. Is a name important? I ask you.
Orthodoxy... your last sentence reiterates the point of rightly accessing the holy spirit. thank you
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I think that everything is important. But as you know we all speak different language. For example in Serbian language the name "John" is being spoken Jovan... or in Russian and Croatian -Ivan. Also Godīs name is originally in tetragrramaton for as YHWH in english translation. Original pronounciation was lost because of Jewish superstition to never say Godīs name in public . Also Godī name was banned from Bible by clergy and replace by term LORD.
and you find it today that we pronounce it as:
Yahweh
Yahwey
Yahwe
Jahve
Jehova
Jehovah
Geova
or similar...
Also we in Serbian say Isus not Jesus and we say Hrist not Christ.
We would write Yah-shua as Jesua... Paul as Pavle ( Craotian would be Pavao) Spanish Pablo...
Matthew is Matej or Mateja
Luke is Luka
Nebukhadnezzar is Navuhodonosor
The point is that different people say it differently but it is the same name.
Again I do not think that just saying someoneīs name can do anything,it is the deeds of that person that evokes emotion or responce .
You can yell whole day JESUS JESUS or JEHOVAH OR YAHWEH and there would be no help if you are attacked. The thing is to know them and walk the way of truth and righteusness with our Creator Yahweh and King Jesus Christ.
P.S.
Christ is a term ,meaning messiah - the deliverer or redeemer of humanity, it is not his last name...
Christ conscience is actually someoneīs own conscience tuned with holy spirit.
And also you can not tune with spirit alone before an actual person gives that spirit to you, it is Godīs omnipotent force and Christ force too.