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Ouch! tata a lot of money! I have to agree that ost of the solar options advertised i the "msinline" kind of areas are diabolicall expensive and ot that effective. I have acople of designs that are way cheaper and i think more efficient.

The main problem wiht sun and water not runing 24/7 is easily surmountable - its more a questionof storage than anyhting else - and tha tdepends on circumstances. pesonally i dislike batteries nd such. So many alterantives that are easier and more reliable.

i have several project son the go righ now - in terms of energy generation got two Browns gas, one mater style water spltting, one silicon based with no movig pars, one electromagnetic, a couple of orgone basd and two z point resonance based that are showing promise, with a number of remarkeable tangents that have soe mind numbing impliations on a truly global scale - all positive and i am prety sure could bebrought ot market in a way tht they would never be anle to derive any form of weaponisation, ecept possibly using as a club!
All my stuf is cheap 1 becus e if its not its no use to hte people that ned it,ad 2 cos im skint. my wokshop is my dinner table.

I am to stretched and too por. but we are aiing at getting a getig a group together in the hastings / east sussex area a some point [pssibly surounded by a forefield if i ge my way!] I have beenitno the energy thing sice the 90's used to be on ye olde energy 21 newsgroup waaaay back. tll got a mate from there who was working with Joe on the cell - he went nd hid up a mountain in the outback of australia aron 98 or 99. As far as i know, he stll wont come down. He reckoned they could detect the activation of the Joe cel at man miles distance, and used to send black helicopters over evey time he started up.

You worry about knock on the door now - it was a lot more scay back then. very paranoid.

May i enquire as to the general area of your investigations? might well have som material have some materail for you - got quite an extensve database.