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I've been following this thread, but a bit confused from the beginning as to what constitutes a "dark being". I'm still not completely clear if that means "evil" or something from a universe of a different polarity, or what.

Originally Posted by Mallys

I was told not to talk about this anymore because it could attract some dangerous attention to me but i really wanted to know what you all think about this matter.
i know a human with dark energy and when you meet one you know something is different simply by the way you react to their presence, some people feel uneasy or some just can't stand their presence and you just know that the person is different from the others.
they are usually weak, tend to get sick easily, have a pretty slim body shape, really smart and have advanced abilities like being good em paths. they usually like to be alone and are harmed by everything that shines ( spiritually of course ) even if they do not reject God, they are just not compatible.

Really it seems to me that a lot of what you're feeling is being projected onto you from others. Always remember: not only is it good to avoid being painted with someone else's brush, this is essential to becoming a free and sovereign manifestation of yourself.

Originally Posted by NancyV

My husband has a pat response when I ask him about his views on God and the devil, he says "God don't want me and the devil is scared I'll take his job". Of course he's kidding on a certain level because he wouldn't want either "job", they are both limited in their scope. If one wishes to be fully realized and completely sovereign, one cannot worship an iconic figure or being as separate from and more powerful than themselves. Not "worshiping" or fearing a God or a devil does not mean that one refuses to acknowledge their existence. It does mean that one feels they are not only part of the creation but they themselves are perhaps all of the creation and all of the Creator rolled into one.

So your question about people with dark energy not being able to approach God's love is a good one and I think the answer is that it's true. These people are not able or more probably not WILLING to approach God or God's love because it would limit and control them...

What I find funny about your husband's statement is how some people's gods are exactly like my devil [or would be if I had one :>]. The old testament god was a horrific and immature being IMO, yet that archetype is still being worshiped as if it was holy and luminous.

I like your assessment of the unwillingness of the so called "dark" to approach the emanation of what we've been sold as God...because they don't wish to be controlled by it. The deeper I go, the more it seems that it's balance which is the goal, not attunement to perfect love through loss of ego and personality, or the loss of love through perfect attunement to ego. There's never separation from the real source of Being, if there was we'd cease to Be, so it's true, worshiping a god who's separate from ourselves can only be disempowering.

And Mallys, the act of not worshiping this kind of god, in the midst of a host of people who do, can attract the paintbrush of darkness...but it's their darkness, not necessarily yours that you're being painted with.

Originally Posted by judykott

There could be other reasons as well, I would agree with the dark warrior, who engages other dark forces. You see it in the Western archetypes the sheriff with his star, in the samurai, or in the shaman's who practice dark arts to protect their tribes....
...This goes for some monks as well. They also use their energy for healing. The acupuncture points in martial arts can kill or heal depending on the force or energy used.

Despite the need to avoid falling into a universe that's centered around the self, or (lately I'm thinking, just as bad...) worshiping a light being until we lose ourselves in it, we need to remember that we're attached to our actions...not only to the effects of our actions but to the effects of the effects of our actions. This is how we travel into the darker, low frequency realms, by living in the realms we've co-created by what we do, or by manifesting as what we believe we are. If there's a best reason not to be evil, this is it. I think it is as you've pointed out...there's only one "energy", but many ways to direct it.

Originally Posted by judykott

There is light and dark in all of us. Those who feel they are they most light, love, namaste and enlightened are often the most deceived and blind.

Yes, and they're usually the ones with the box of paints...talking the talk, but hardly every walking the walk. It's seems to me that impeccability is the most important attribute of "enlightenment", otherwise, we're simply not.