Thread: Syphoning
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:04 PM   #72
sun-toonŽ
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From where i sit, Dakini seems to have simplified her gnosis and finds (for others) the appropriate words to express. Some others, while equally touching the hem of reality, as often tear it asunder, so to speak. This quote for example was written by Sun-Toon not Bronte:

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Originally Posted by sun-toonŽ
It seems the idea of whether or not we should surrender our egos to God, or universal Oneness, is the dividing line between spiritual paths. Do we take our individual sovereign consciousness and become actual co-creators, or do we merge into the void. Personally, the void holds no attraction for me, especially since it's not a void at all, it's another conscious mind...a very large one, and it's not mine. Therefore I do not want to assimilate with it, and I'm tired of being deluded and siphoned by it.
....the sentiment expressed accords with Bronte's but is based on a misunderstanding of 'merging with the higher-Self or Oneness'. They're hearing alarm bells ring because 'union' seems to them an abrogation of freewill and individuality and this precisely because of their belief in some of the tenets of Kyle Griffiths' cosmology.
I'll excuse your judgment of my "misunderstanding" of this concept. Perhaps if you were clearer on what Bronte Baxter has to say on the subject you'd understand why the alarms are going off...and the question is not one that can stay contained within Kyle Griffith's cosmology, though I'd say that it is somewhat related. IMO, we're being deceived by lower order entities, and higher order entities as well. When beings represent themselves as the Divine, play the hand of the Divine, look, walk and act like the Divine Duck, it's easy to be confused by those appearances.

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As i see it, those ideas, though valid as a description of lower order entities - we don't want 'union' with them - are utterly false when considering 'union' with the Divine. And by 'Divine' i mean the spiritual origin of one's own being NOT some inexpressible 'void' created by cosmic parasites.

With this perspective, there is indeed "an outside" to the box of fear and suspicion which causes souls to seek 'safety' by rejecting the gems of wisdom handed on from the mystics who've gone before us.
And I see it as a question of how to tell the One from the Divine impostors. If God is not God, but a usurper, and we return to Him, to what have we returned?

You seem to have missed the whole point here. Of course there's an outside to the "box of fear", but there's also an outside to the box of love and bliss. It's a strange comment you make about seeking safety by the rejection of mystical gems of wisdom. Is that what we're doing here? From the safety of those very gems you find the objective point of view in which to make this pronouncement?

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Syphoning does not go "all the way to the top". It is done by rogues who can only syphon souls who are vulnerable to it and that means those who have not found union with the "very top" of their own being. The first liberating thought is that this is in fact possible and further that it is mandated by the Divine as a natural completion of the aeonic sojourn. It cannot happen without acceptance of the inner-Guide... The one that whispers questions through the window of inner consciousness and answers from the same 'place'... I AM.
And yet you would use the term "I AM", a poisoned and tainted call to join the astral circus...one that's been used and abused by wraiths through hundreds of channels like the Ballards (I AM/St Germain movement) and Mark and Elizabeth Prophet...not to mention its source from the biblical overlord Yahweh, the prime example of the non-prime creator. I'm not sure, but I see your paradigm as exactly the one I'd like to escape. Alignment with these kinds of phrases as well as most, if not all of the ancient archetypes, can do nothing but draw us deeper into the dream the false reality that has been created to entrap our consciousness.

The second one of my alarms that goes off is over your assertion of what is the meaning and nature of the "natural completion of the aeonic sojourn". Mine, as I've seen it for some time, has no meaningful completion. There's no direction, no need to "return", only a drive to reclaim power and reopen the connection to source consciousness. It's the whole idea of this "mandated" completion which is the lie we've been falling for.
There's no "rejection" of wisdom going on here, only a calling into question of what wisdom is actually wise. Which mystics made it out? Who reopened the connection to source consciousness without returning to formless bliss? And if we weren't trapped in these cycles of hell, we'd be much more interested in the act of Being co-creators, without a need to get the hell out of here and return to anything.

When I said that siphoning goes all the way to the top, I meant that, but by implication, throughout the rest of what I've written, that the top is not the top.

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