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Czymra · 03-11-2009, 03:30 AM

Wow Sun-Toon'
You surely found an explosive quote there.
I am however also very weary of people that sound bitter and she sure does as Dakini already pointed out. However, I think she has a good point.
The difference to me is that I have no problem being part of a collective as long as I can make sure that I have my free will and can assess that there is never a single being that controls it all.

So, humbly, as you insist that ther IS an outside to all of this, I think her 'reasoning' your way out can't be it. If there is a catch with all the 'beyond mind' stuff then it is that it isn't actually 'beyond mind'.
This is to say that it's still in the HMS/GSSC or whatever you want to call it.

I had an interesting talk with Mudra about this yesterday. The question is of course whether one should put priority into preventing syphoning/leakage or gaining more energy.
This is also an issue that comes up regarding the Nexus thread... is there a point putting more 'energy' into the grid if it's already corrupted? Can one really mark the energy with an intent that isolates it from abuse?

Be that as it may, one of the main questions to me is still 'Where does energy come from?" because formerly I believed all energy is First Source (some call it spiritual others soul, my there is no model for this sh**) in nature, now I'm not so sure. It would be rather logical to think that energy just exists within the HMS and whatever is outside of it, simply has nothing to do with it.

And yes, if that is so, probably none of us has a f****** clue what it is.
How frustrating.

The longer I think about this the more I have to hand it to James from WingMakers. His terminology makes more sense than anything else I've seen so far.
For that matter, has anybody investigated the event temples? Is there syphoning/assimilation (protection) there?

Last but not least, can there be group efforts that, as pointed out before, do not submit themselves to a higher institution? Is Gaia Brahman?

03-11-2009, 03:30 AM	#69
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Syphoning Wow Sun-Toon' You surely found an explosive quote there. I am however also very weary of people that sound bitter and she sure does as Dakini already pointed out. However, I think she has a good point. The difference to me is that I have no problem being part of a collective as long as I can make sure that I have my free will and can assess that there is never a single being that controls it all. So, humbly, as you insist that ther IS an outside to all of this, I think her 'reasoning' your way out can't be it. If there is a catch with all the 'beyond mind' stuff then it is that it isn't actually 'beyond mind'. This is to say that it's still in the HMS/GSSC or whatever you want to call it. I had an interesting talk with Mudra about this yesterday. The question is of course whether one should put priority into preventing syphoning/leakage or gaining more energy. This is also an issue that comes up regarding the Nexus thread... is there a point putting more 'energy' into the grid if it's already corrupted? Can one really mark the energy with an intent that isolates it from abuse? Be that as it may, one of the main questions to me is still 'Where does energy come from?" because formerly I believed all energy is First Source (some call it spiritual others soul, my there is no model for this sh) in nature, now I'm not so sure. It would be rather logical to think that energy just exists within the HMS and whatever is outside of it, simply has nothing to do with it. And yes, if that is so, probably none of us has a f**** clue what it is. How frustrating. The longer I think about this the more I have to hand it to James from WingMakers. His terminology makes more sense than anything else I've seen so far. For that matter, has anybody investigated the event temples? Is there syphoning/assimilation (protection) there? Last but not least, can there be group efforts that, as pointed out before, do not submit themselves to a higher institution? Is Gaia Brahman?