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Originally Posted by Czymra

Sun-Toon's and Dakini's statement seem to oppose each other directly here.
Okay, I'm with you on hemisphere synchronisation, but something tells me that's not the whole deal. When you're synced, you're still operating that sync input on an old paradigm, aren't you?

Not necessarily. You could decide to operate under an entirely new paradigm without any hemispheric synchronization. I do understand that the mind can't be examined from the point of view of the mind. I'm just telling you, that from experience, I've learned the intuitive part of the mind, which may be actually reaching past the boundaries of mind, tends to bring information to the rational senses that appear at first to be disconnected and irrational, but upon integration, end up raising the plane of what used be logical.

Originally Posted by Dakini

This is where some people start...the curiosity about the spiritualistic phenomena around the unseen. But don't make the mistake of imagining that seeing things or beings, seeing auras, creating magic, manifesting, etc. are the end result of anything remotely spiritual. In fact, these things are the signposts that one needs to keep progressing, that one is not near enough to the goal. The ego will often create spiritualistic phenomena - yes, the ego -
it will create distractions to advancement. Because true advancement of the soul threatens the ego. So the ego will want to create all kinds of phenomena to keep you attached and very interested in that level of your
progress. Heck, why progress? Life is SO much more interesting here. And now I'm special. But very few phenomena, some say none, at this juncture come from Spirit.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I'm with sun-toon on this one. Dakini, something strikes me from the words you write, also on the "The Open Secret" Thread. It's filled of words like 'adept' and 'master' and 'progress' and the respect for it.

I don't grok any of these arbitrary definitions (from my PoV), like seeker, adept, master, etc, either...and "beginner" sounds condescending. I'm really lost in the perceived difference between "Spirit" and "spiritualistic". It's all spiritual to me. Right now my spirit, or consciousness as I usually call it, is experiencing the realm of 3d, filtering its reality through the "space suit" I've acquired which allows my higher frequency shells to function here without being crushed by the density.

I have no master, nor do I seek one. I've had a couple of temporary mentors, which was interesting, but I'm not seeking one of those either. I'm a sponge whenever I find someone who appears to have what I feel I need. I'm not going anywhere in particular, and I'm not looking for anything other than experience while I work on this project of trying to assure that this planet survives to continue it's long and potentially glorious evolutionary process. How can there be a destination in eternity? Experience is the gold.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I would like to know how 'spilling the beans' can be a mistake. I can guess what you're getting at, but I'm not sure what the greater gain is. If more of us had such skills maybe there would actually be a real chance of turning the world toward something more positive. I mean, if we all were telepathic, if there were no secrets but only full collision and acutal emoting and sensing of the other, real empathy, no misunderstanding, how could that be any detriment to anybody?

I don't think there's any such thing as "spilling the beans". There's really no possibility of understanding some expansion of consciousness until the platform that expansion is built upon is integrated. What I hear in this is the idea of secret knowledge that secretive groups have kept to themselves and shared with those who would play their game. There are no secrets. We all know everything. I see it all as a process of growing into a greater awareness the nuances of our Being.

Czymra...the bells and whistles are not always bells or whistles. Sometimes they're fleeting wisps of dreaming that blow past barely capturing our attention. If you want to become a magician, that would be a good way to discover more about the nature of about bells and whistles, because in essence we're all sorcerers. We are all manifestations of energy, and we're projecting that energy into every reality we inhabit at every moment of our existence. All the magician stuff that "magick" workers do is only one facet of the realm of your sorcerer self. RV, the akashic, writing to this group or making breakfast are other forms.

Personally, I can't get with any paradigm that says we need to go live in the part of ourselves that's beyond ego and mind, and beyond this plane of existence. I think what we need to be doing is integrating all of it to the best of our ability, bringing it into this continuum and experiencing this frame of reference to the maximum of our abilities. No realm is superior to another and no sovereign entity has a master. Here is where it's happening for us; here is where we've come for exactly this experience.
We do need to understand reality, because the truth of it is being hidden from us by those who believe themselves to be superior. And, to get back to the theme of the thread, we are being siphoned, and we do need to know how and why that's happening to us or it will continue until there's nothing left of humanity but slaves. Only through a clearer understanding of the workings of reality, can we do that.

The whole idea that it's a game of personal escape is a lie. The game is for all of us to awaken together. What are we going to do, go sit on a cloud and wait for the next 10 million years for our loved ones to get it?