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Originally Posted by Czymra

Did you miss the orgasmic entry of sun-toon

Well this sheds some light on one of the problems I'm having in my life. I actually am having great orgasms, it's just that I'm having them on the internet without knowing it.

Originally Posted by Dakini

Maybe the operative word here is "can" vs. another word, 'will.' Because there may be people on the forum who know how to do this, but will they really share that knowledge on a forum? I didn't think so.

Czymra, I'm happy that you indicate you were asking the "syphoning" question not because you were looking for instructions, but as I assumed, because you wanted to know how it works as energetic process.

Just my opinion, but I don't think it would be appropriate to ask for assistance like that here, though such conversations do go on endlessly in some venues. Check out the mind control forums sometime...not the ones from people who are escaping the clutches, but the ones hosted and populated by controllers. They're a wonderful incentive for the need to learn everything about keeping control of your energy.

Originally Posted by Czymra

See, this is something I can't wrap my head around. Put the magical matter to the side. I have no deeper interest in the people who are convinced that magic is 'the thing'. But those people that you refer to as being 'highly developed' are anything but spiritual in my eyes. If anyone deserves my anger it is them right beside the rest of ignorance's disciples.
I've heard of highly experienced martial artists, that can do the most astounding things, yet they're racist. I've heard of spiritual gurus that may levitate, yet they abuse their wives. If I allow myself to wholeheartedly judge a thing, then it is this hypocrisy.

...another chapter in my imaginary book: "The 8th dimensional sphincter-hat".

Originally Posted by Czymra

I wish to unlearn the learned again, so I may yet again return to my roots, to my essence. My current knowledge in fact is what builds the bars to my own prison. My understanding of the world right now is based on concepts that are entirely 3D.

I don't think it's about unlearning anything, at least on purpose, and you can't know too much (though you can know too much for your own good). We can be too deep within the rational mind and not expansive enough intuitively....or the opposite for that matter. If you feel like you're too locked into rational thinking, there are ways to blow that paradigm out of the water.
The problem out here in the woo-hoo exchange is usually more about having a lack of some kind of rational framework for an overload of intuition. I think that's what you're feeling in your disattachment to the meditators. It's all about balance.

I once told a friend that I thought intuition trumps intellect...and he shot back with "yeah, perfect intution".

Originally Posted by Czymra

A friend of mine said that most people that are really advanced don't share their 'amazing stories' so they don't frustrate others. He gave me an example: "What if someone who meditated one year suddenly got the most amazing trips, and another who meditated 40 years got almost nothing...? It's like talking about 'how great sex was' to somebody that doesn't have any."

I can see the point, okay, but really... if those people are spiritually advanced I'm not frustrated at all. I only get frustrated when someone tries to tell me how great they are by conveying these stories. It's another case of 'fake spirituality' (or potency for the other example).

People who are truly advanced share their amazing stories in appropriate ways. They don't force them on other people at dinner parties, or tell them to those who would misuse the information, but they don't keep it to themselves either. I don't care how expansive someone thinks their vision is, all I can see around here is the blind leading the blind. Nobody's that much more special than anyone else.

Originally Posted by Czymra

Why is it that I can feel some people's energy as they are close to me and other's not? Is it my rejection or lack of acceptance? Is it more pragmatic like, we are or the same polarisation? Do we not have energy levels that are different enough from each other? All these things never seem to be discussed! It's just 'yeah all is energy'. Right.

It is all energy...but that statement has to be the classic metaphysical conversation closer. It's a huge subject, really the only subject that matters to me, because all we can take out of here is the experience of the energy we've encountered. How is this energy created? How does one shape it and project it? How do we store it, give it away, take it in? What makes some energy good, other energy bad? How do we keep ourselves from being controlled or absorbed by by external forces? What happens when we replace the word "energy" with consciousness in all those questions? Does consciousness precede manifestation? If it does a lot of Darwinists are going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Czymra

Excuse me if I offended anybody with this, I try to speak from my heart but not all is pure... yet.

At first I couldn't understand what you meant here, but...hmmm now I do, and it goes for me too.