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Originally Posted by oedilroed
Trust is something that is build up.
How ? Start a conversation (using this tread, or by PM ) and share your story, while you also learn the story from the other side.
How do the answers feel ? how is the energy ?
Above all, how does it feel for You ?
No intelectual discussion is going to make any difference to your problem.
But understanding with experience wil.
I do not see myself as a "waker" who believes he must lead " sleepers"
Neither are you asleep - you only do not know how to handle a fascination.
a fascination that has a grip on you, and may tempt you to go into dangerous experiences. - especialy when doing this with the wrong people
I have the advantage of practical knowledge, - This includes, shamanism, past life readings, and among other things, being hooked up on a machine that syphones of sexual energy, also doing the same to other men - yet, going beyond being a victim or a perpetrator.
So, I know what I speak about.
Can you trust me ? Can I trust you ?
The only way to find out is by starting a dialogue and evaluate the answers you get - that is the way I do it when dealing with others.
IŽam prepared to go with you in an open and candid conversation either here, or in private.
I only require the same openness and straightforwardness that I give you.
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Well, out in the open it is stranger!
(You're a manipulative challenger already but hey, that's fine... so far.)
Yet I am already a little weary of your appearance on this forum because of the first post I've read of you. Furthermore I want to note that this 'intellectual discussion here' is so far not a fascination with evil and I don't think I am currently about to burn my fingers on anything as I've left abusive relationships way behind me. The purpose, so far, was to simply interrogate what's 'out there' and 'how' it's possible.
As for the 'sleepers' and 'wakers', I would strongly hope that none of this forum are either... but hey, if I learned something recently then it is that 'spiritually advanced' has nothing to do with how one treats other people, or at least some of them 'gurus' don't seem to have that part of it figured. Sad.
Nevertheless, I shall take your invitation by heart however, as I am well aware that many (if not most) things are well beyond intellectual discussions, or for that sake, words at all.
It's only a week since I asked "So how DO I ask a question with my body?" This was entirely in a martial arts manner, mind you (hello Kathleen, all clean here so far).
No matter, I'm most curious to your idea of bringing this, on a forum, from an intellectual discussion to an actual experience or are you about to pay me a flight to Belgium?
Bring it on!