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sun-toon

So why and how is it that the genetic mind exerts no significant force on some people? Who would be an example of that, and also what would be the recognizable characteristics of a person who's operating outside of the program? I would imagine that a great many of these persons have been incarcerated or put to death throughout history. Also, are there are different types of individuals operating outside of the the genetic mind construct? The psychopathic personality would be outside of it as well; even if it is some kind of progeny of the creator of the program in the first place...a possibility worth considering.

I'd say offhand that those of us contributing to this thread are examples of people on whom the genetic mind exerts no significant force. I don't see any dogma being put forth or defended at all. As to psychopaths, I dunno. Maybe they are not plugged into the genetic mind, and then again they could be some sort of archetypes of the GM.

I came across a David Icke book a couple of days ago that appears to have relevance to our subject. Rather strange, as I haven't read any of his work since The Biggest Secret back in the 1990s. Here he is talking about revelations he experienced while taking ayahuasca in the Brazilian jungle in 2003:

From David Icke http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...timeloop12.htm

... the thought projection itself took on a 'life' of its own when it gained access to an energy source independent of that which was projecting it. This energy source...., was fear. The Matrix - the projected reality of subconscious mind - absorbed the energy of fear generated particularly within the 'five- sense' Time Loop and took on a life and agenda of its own.

That agenda was to generate as much fear as possible to empower itself even further. The Matrix became a Frankenstein. The created or projected thought field had accessed an energy source to become a creator and projector of its own illusory reality......

The subconscious had created the prison from its disconnected state of self- deception and now it and the conscious mind were sitting in a cell of their own making, with the 'cell' dictating events.

The reason why The Matrix projection needs the energy of fear to empower itself is because it is fear, self- aware fear...... It had been created originally by the fear of subconscious mind and, as projected fear, this is the only energy source The Matrix entity could access and absorb.

The more fear its manipulations generate through wars, conflict, stress, guilt and aggression etc., the greater its power to increase this cycle of fear production.

......The Matrix was a self-aware entity that was knowingly manipulating to ensure its own survival by generating the events necessary to produce the fear that empowered it.

........ The Reptilians did 'exist', said the voice, but they were holographic thought projections of The Matrix very much like the agents or 'sentient programs' that manipulate in The Matrix movies. They could either operate as a reptilian projection or hide behind an apparently 'human' form, just as the sentient programs morph in and out of different human forms in the movies.

Either way, the Reptilians and other projected agents of The Matrix were not 'real' in consciousness terms; they were projections, thought fields or highly sophisticated software programs.

....The Reptilian 'sentient programs' did not have human emotion, the voice said, because they were just that, 'sentient programs', and are not conscious in the way humans are conscious.

"If you programmed a computer to kill children, would that computer have any emotional problems with that?" the voice asked.

No, it would just follow the programming because computers do not have emotion. They do what they are programmed to do. It was the same with the Illuminati and the 'Reptilians' - they were, in effect, like highly sophisticated computer software. They were like digital people implanted in the movies alongside human actors. They appear to be the same, but they are not.

So here we have a self-aware self perpetuating program (Anu has apparently bugged out with the gold) that is creating holographic sub-routines in order to induce fear and feed itself. Psychopaths could fit into this category as well, even if they were housed in actual organic bodies.

And what of the Organic Portals the Cassiopiean material talks about? Are there human bodies walking around that are not being used as soul carriers? Why not? They would likely be informed entirely by the genetic mind, it seems to me. I treat the whole OP idea pretty cautiously at this point; it seems reasonable but I know of no correlating sources other than my own experiences with people who seem to have everything else going for them but appear to lack the "higher centers".

The reference to War In Heaven is apropos; I'm thinking of the astral plane computer technology and machinery described in that book.

As to what Anu wanted the gold for, I read somewhere that he needed the gold to put a protective atmospheric shield around his home planet (Nibiru?). This was supposedly the conclusion that the NSA and other high-level spook agencies came to. Sorry, no reference for that. That makes as much sense as anything else I've heard; don't we possibly have something similar going on with the chemtrails right now?

The question about the fundamental misconceptions of the genetic mind seems to be addressed here:

WingMakers

"Source Reality is represented in your belief in unconditional love, but of all the dimensions of your belief systems, this is the one thread that is connected through the genetic mind to Source Reality"

IOW, it's all garbage with the exception of unconditional love, and interestingly the same message is given to David Icke:

"Infinite Love is the only truth - everything else is illusion; no buts, no exceptions, that's it."

and further:

But let me define what is meant by love in the context of Infinite Love. It is the balance of all. Infinite Oneness is the only truth, everything else is illusion would be another way of saying it.

Therefore, Infinite 'Love' is also Infinite Intelligence, Infinite Knowledge, Infinite Everything. I was told how humanity had been manipulated to identify itself with illusory 'personalities' and not as the Infinite that we are. This had trapped people in the illusions of a disconnected state.

You may find it worthwhile to read the David Icke page I linked to above as there are amazing resonances with what James is saying in the latest interview. I haven't gotten to the rest of Icke's book, BTW.

sun-toon:

I think it's amazing that the "ubiquity of intelligent networks" has slipped into the timestream the way it has, almost without being prognosticated by anyone. This factor alone makes it worthy of special notice. Was this always going to be a part of the present global/cultural landscape or was it recently inserted? Visionaries are always intuiting the future, and with all the sci-fi that was written...say through the 70's, how did this global network of digitized human consciousness + artificial intelligence slip past almost everyone?

I grew up reading sci-fi and a global computer network of information sharing, access to a library of all written knowledge and video, and face-to-face video communication was in enough of those books that I accepted it as a coming reality. I seem to recall the idea in books from as far back as the 1940s. I also remember a vivid description of full-immersion virtual reality in a Clifford Simak book, probably from the 1950s. In that story, human explorers had found the ruins of an ancient high-tech civilization on another planet. In one abandoned building they found a library of cubes. When one of the humans accessed one of these cubes (I don't remember how), he experienced, in a few moments, several years of life interacting with and living with an alien culture. Excuse the digression, but it was a great story.

dayzero:

the timeline the Pleidians hoped we could follow was never gonna happen.....we have too much accreted violence and victim mentality to change purely for the sake of it...what I mean is that us humans seem to work well in a crisis, and that the only way out of all of this is through the fire of a crisis. we are the metamorphs

And some of us are kind of excited about that. Aren't we perverse? Even if all we have to do is wake up and accept who we are, we are still compelled to make a drama and struggle out of the process. We want a pageant! We love a parade!

dayzero:

the Wingmakers material.... It's so.......
ambitious. It is material truly for sentient beings who are ready and able to accept their true nature, freedom and responsibility,

Entity + Source Intelligence = Prime Creator equality. There is a lot at the site, and at Lyricus, that I never had a lot of interest in. It was always the few bits about the sovereign integral that most held my attention. I assume the rest is aimed at a different audience, or perhaps I'm not ready for it yet.

Czymra, I applaud your doubts about the WM material etc. My own explanation for its technical advancement and polish is that the entities behind the material, the WingMakers, are familiar with much more advanced networks. Sort of like master artists in oil painting dropping in on a kindergarten art class. Perhaps they can't show us too much without discouraging us.

I think it is also inevitable that the material will be corrupted and hijacked to an extent for the purposes of the Hierarchy. Nothing new there. All of my life I have had to practice powerful discernment or end up being misled. A friend described it the other day as sifting through a pile of ******** to find the dung beetles. Take what one can use and leave the rest; perhaps it will be useful later.

One more mind-blower from the James interview:

The beings that exist in the manifested, three-dimensional universe are human and only human.

Dang. So much for Jabba the Hut and Chewbacca.

Okay, I don't think any of us wants this to turn into a WingMakers discussion thread. We have more or less a definition of the Genetic Mind as the repository of all human experience on Planet Earth. The point has been made and seconded that our target is organic, not AI. Or is it? If the Matrix we are stuck in is a self-perpetuating program that has evolved to the point of creating holographic entities for the purpose of keeping us in fear to provide its food supply, well, what are we dealing with?

Where is the physical/organic repository of the Genetic Mind? My first guess is the DNA. Check this out:

" Up to 97% of the human genetic information (DNA) is seemingly needless, repetitive "junk" - only about 3% is known to generate proteins, deserving the name "gene".

....investigative researchers are gathering details which suggest that DNA may not substantively exist as a "building block of life". Rather, it appears that the substantive function of DNA is to act as a "parasitic inhibitor" and "regulator" of life on planet Earth.

.....By accepting the link between DNA and emotional and mental activities, we may begin to imagine DNA as a complex program that directs the life process (regulating our metabolism, for instance), but impedes our consciousness from complete manifestation.

.......Research testimony that includes ancient representations, suggest that DNA was implanted in humanity by Manipulative Extraterrestrials. The fact that over 95% of DNA does not support vital biological living processes suggest that it is conceivable for biological life to exist without any DNA.

....Fractogene seems to have stumbled upon "introns" as Manipulative Extraterrestrial signature of the demonic inorganic mechanical intelligence that ancient pagan Gnostic referred to as "artificial man" or the "archons". " Scholars suggest Human DNA shows signs of being an Invasive Extraterrestrial Parasite

Best to read the whole page. (And thanks to the great news site ShiftingDimensions.com for cluing me in to this)

We are talking about Hacking the Genetic Mind, are we not? It would be a good idea to get as focused and specific as possible. Does the DNA work as the material plane antenna/receiver for repression broadcast from non-material "technology"? Are "drugs" such as ayahuasca, DMT, and ketamine somehow bypassing the repressive properties of DNA?

That would certainly explain why such substances are illegal.

(I'll be back later with some thoughts on Czymra's comments about the video and the "space between things".)

Thanks for the great input. Love You All.