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Old 02-19-2009, 12:08 PM   #4
shanonatime
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Default Re: I want to make my stance on alien life very clear

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Originally Posted by Czymra View Post
I've come across this attitude a few times. I think it's a matter of having chosen to be a victim and actually become quite comfortable with it. I'm not sure if it's 'easier' staying there than it is to overcome the status quo, but I myself am familiar with at least being quite comfortable in melancholy.
Please don't consider this offensive, maybe you aren't in a victim mode at all. This is just what it sounds like to me.

If I look at this from my end, I think that victims have usually bought too much into the 'this is for a greater good' concept. The idea of sacrificing oneself for something that is more important, possibly being rewarded afterwards. It's a lot like a Cinderella complex, waiting for the prince/princess or the concept of the pure hero, that only when one is naive and all-giving and sacrificing will the truth unfold.
I think this is a rather compelling trap as it connects one emotionally with any perpetrator, but it's a trap nonetheless, one very similar to sado-masochism in my opinion.
eXchanger has left a quite interesting post on the dynamics behind this on the "Avalon Singles" thread. Rephrased it was a matter of oneself being of such intent and clarity that, in fact, it triggers a freaked out response in other people, because they don't know how to engage with a being so humble, other than to abuse it.

....but just imagine, with all the power behind creating one's own reality through one's intentions and attitude, you of all have probably learned to forgive. If you now overcome the state of victim, your compassion will abound in such an intensity it will be quite unbelievable.
actually you are very spot on here... don't worry- not offended- sado masochism isn't very far off... ha. seriously... state of victim... overcoming this is quite the task... learning to forgive ones self is the ultimate task? but then ones self includes... them... and i'm off to the land of no free will "forgiveness" again.... ha...

cheers. break the victim cycle. break it. break it... break it!!!! breaking it... breathe... yes. :-)

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