Hi Humble Janitor,
I think I see a different picture than you do. I hope we're looking at the same page.
I'm neither Republican nor Democrat - I don't even like politics, it's a dirty game, but I am for common sense, and I'm sure you are which is why, between you and me, it gets so frustrating at times because we see what's really in front of us and the politicians care not to see, for political reasons (which is why politics is dirty), or just can't see because of common sense! They are only human after all.
In the case of Ron Paul, I don't beleive he is a whinging Republican. On the contrary, the other day he rippe into the last eight years of American Government like nothing I've ever seen. He has, as has Peter Schiff, as have the Republicans in general, offered an alternative solution, which was to let the markets play out their course naturally.
It will be more difficult in the short term, but in the long run things will work themselves out. In other words, some well known banks and companies will go to the wall and in the future, when the opportunity arrives, other new banks and companies will be created.
I think Ron Pauls' argument is that the current administration is trying to stave off what is inevitable and will spend money that it doesn't have to try and do it. When the inevitable happens, the Americans will be in a worse state because there willbe a depression, but added to that there will be the added national debt. It's like asking what's worse; a depression or a depression with a national deficit?
The economic problem wasn't created by tax cuts, it was created because the US bought more than it sold. You can have income tax at 0%, but if you still buy more than you sell you're still in for bankrupcy. Ask any business man. Balancing the books of the government is the same as balancing the books of a business, just a little more complex.
The biggest market in the world is in the US and the smallest player in this market is the US. So the US imports all that it needs, but doesn't produce enough for export to cover the cost of the imports and just prints money to pay for it. That basically is the gist of the problem. That and risky business by the banks (but that's more of a domestic thing).
Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have two distinct ideas of how to try and get through the mess with the minimum of damage and none of it comes through party lines, merely economical.
I sympathise with you about group meetings. I've been to a few and have had the urge to grab the mike to say what I really think, but of course didn't.
I know how you feel.
Best regards,
Steve
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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor
All I see is more "blah blah blah" from the obstructionist Republicans in Congress.
Either you do SOMETHING or you do NOTHING.
Suppose the Stimulus DIDN'T pass? Now what? More ******* tax cuts? We're past 8 years of tax cuts. Where are the jobs that were suppose to be created as a result of these tax cuts?
I'm getting sick and tired of some of the topics here. The stimulus is NOT an insult to taxpayers. The partisan attitudes of Republicans and their supporters is THE insult to Americans everywhere.
There will never be anything but partisan bickering and it should be made clear that Project Avalon and Project Camelot are NOT the places for such one-sided topics.
Since when did these sites become a hangout for Ron Paul/Free State Project cronies?
*edit- You'll have to excuse me. I'm just getting incredibly annoyed at the constant topics that criticize something but offer NOTHING as an alternative or they stick to the same old "solutions" that we've seen from the PTB over the years. *
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