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ophiuchus 09-18-2008 05:40 PM

david icke call to arms !
 
today david icke announced on the alex jones show that now is the time to move against the nwo. it's one thing to get educated and informed but now is the time for action. nwo is currantly in a transition phase, this is what the economic collapse is about. it's the inception of their new system of how they will operate to manage control. now it is the right time to move. "there are millions more of us then them, we can change the entire world for us and our children with peaceful in-action,before it's too late". we are at the crossroads and have to stop watching the game and get into the game. it's moving faster and faster. it's up to everyone now ,if we don't participate in their game they can't proceed.

dragonfly 09-18-2008 05:51 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
That is a harsh title I believe. A call to interlocking arms, not bullet holding arms as it sounds. It is NOW time to UNITE! Stop allowing the prison to be built up around us and sit back and watch it. Stop conforming to the few when there are so many more of US! Peaceful Resistance.

I am listening too. "smile"

Wake Up America!!!

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 05:55 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
this gives everyone who visits project-avalon the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is. do we really believe in our hearts what we are doing or is this just beer and nuts. will we rise to this challenge? are we capable of putting this together(worldwide)? will david icke come out front,put his money where his mouth is and help put it together. i want to see what the bloggers say now.

2infinityandbeyond 09-18-2008 06:01 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
How are we supposed to do this when 90% of the people who hear me talking about this kind of stuff think im a nut!

We have the numbers, but right now you can cut those numbers by 95% because 90% dont believe in this stuff and the other 5% are not willing to do anythin about it.

Mike_Jetson 09-18-2008 06:05 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
2 percent is all it needs to bring the change, a much smaller number is needed to get the ball rolling.

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 06:05 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
thank you dragonfly,peaceful resistanse is a better phrase. but the question remains what constitutes effective peaceful resistance?

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 06:08 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
2infinityandbeyond is right,valid point. this is the challenge! it will take everyone on this site to put it together. how bad you want it?

2infinityandbeyond 09-18-2008 06:10 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ophiuchus (Post 18863)
2infinityandbeyond is right,valid point. this is the challenge! it will take everyone on this site to put it together. how bad you want it?

I'm just feeling a bit disheartened right now.. this feels like fishing in a desert.

dragonfly 09-18-2008 06:12 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 18843)
How are we supposed to do this when 90% of the people who hear me talking about this kind of stuff think im a nut!

We have the numbers, but right now you can cut those numbers by 95% because 90% dont believe in this stuff and the other 5% are not willing to do anythin about it.

Then focus on the 10%!!!!! it will grow.

It feels like you may be giving up. Please don't. Please.
It is time to gather all our strength.

Sometimes it takes more than a nudge to wake a heavily sleepy person.

stresswon 09-18-2008 06:14 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
okay, if this is in fact true,,,what's the next step?

2infinityandbeyond 09-18-2008 06:21 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfly (Post 18869)
Then focus on the 10%!!!!! it will grow.

It feels like you may be giving up. Please don't. Please.
It is time to gather all our strength.

Sometimes it takes more than a nudge to wake a heavily sleepy person.

I used to have a lot of friends. But noone takes me seriously or respects me anymore because im that 'crazy conspiracy nut'
Ive provided indisputible evidence but im still branded a nut, im just fed up of the ignorance of the people around me.
I want to help and do something so bad but its like my words are falling on deaf and ignorant ears.. its like they would rather die ignorant then die trying :(

Mummy_bean 09-18-2008 06:22 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
From where I'm sitting, thinking...

One of the problems (and I use the word 'problem' with some reserve) of organising 'action' from this community is that we are not certain what we are protesting against or fighting against and we're not clear on what we all agree. If that can be established..then I think we could move.

There are plenty of avenues...

But what's the destination?

And who is the target?

That might sound a bit daft of airy fairy, but you can't start up a cyber protest against what is rumour layered upon rumour. There's got to be something more concrete than that.

I think we need a collective statement of belief. Not everyone on here is going to believe or agree with everything Ike says.

Define who you are and define your purpose.

I was told 'You can't know everything. If you know everything you lose your purpose.' I'm still not sure what that meant even now.

But I reckon the next step for this community is: Define who you are and define your purpose.

I know Bill and Kerry have done this to an extent on Project Camelot, but it's fluid and needs evaluating.

Without some clarity there can't be any effective action?

Just a thought...what do we think?

dragonfly 09-18-2008 06:26 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Next step? Good question. I find I am lead gracefully to it by listening within. You will be lead by ideas, information that shows up and you follow it. Trust your heart. Keep awareness open and stay in the NOW. When enough of us come together, the solution will create itself.

Trust and believe a positive outcome no matter how shaky it gets.
I know. Easily said.:winksmiley02:

CosmicFever 09-18-2008 06:29 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
It's my own personal belief that when the house of cards start to really fall all these people who think we're nuts will sit up and take notice. I have given probable events and timelines. I don't think you'll budge anyone until the real poop starts hitting the fan. Then they will be knocking down your door for help. That may be very soon. We'll see.

peace,
cosmic:lightsabre:

dragonfly 09-18-2008 06:33 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 18884)
like they would rather die ignorant then die trying :(

That is their choice.

Don't entangle yourself with ones who can't or won't hear. Keep moving so others may.

Blessings your way...

yikes! 09-18-2008 06:35 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicFever (Post 18895)
It's my own personal belief that when the house of cards start to really fall all these people who think we're nuts will sit up and take notice. I have given probable events and timelines. I don't think you'll budge anyone until the real poop starts hitting the fan. Then they will be knocking down your door for help. That may be very soon. We'll see.

peace,
cosmic:lightsabre:

Ditto to that.

My wife has had a pretty open mind the past year to my ramblings.. but this week it really took traction.

Stay calm, stay informed and be ready to be the change you want to see in the world.:thumb_yello:

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 06:37 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
well said mummy bean. everyone has to bring more people here to address this issue and it will be like a snow ball going down a hill. everyones thoughts and concerns will manfest themselves to generate movement towards the goal. it will take on a life of it's own if people really believe this is the right thing.

CosmicFever 09-18-2008 06:39 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Right On!!!

peace,
cosmic

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 06:41 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
you might be right cosmic fever but there's a good chance by that time it'll be two late. if everyone just does a little bit and brings one person it will happen by itself. we have to use the power of our numbers.

m00g 09-18-2008 06:42 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Well one thing Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has said is 'that it only takes between 5-7 % of the population to make a change'.

...And as anyone that cares to know; Paul is a man of conviction doing the right thing in saving species amongst corruption.

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 06:45 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
well done moog, that's about the same percentage responsable in 1776 here in america. if they shut down the internet we're screwed,so our time to pull this together has a lifespan.

CosmicFever 09-18-2008 06:47 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
I've brought plenty of people who would listen on board. The rest will come it will just take more to get them there. I've said all I can say.

peace,
cosmic

kem 09-18-2008 06:49 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
I've been involved in so many strikes against our insane government so far that I cannot recollect it.
A decade ago, people still had an influence over institutions : we were numerous and they had no choice but to heed of us.

Today, things are changing fast. They hold our democracy with an iron hand and are not willing to let go their privileges. Over the past few years the french parliament has always been refusing any deal with people taking peaceful actions into the streets.
The NWO is on its way, and I don't know how to bring our leaders down without a violent action.:lightsabre:
Pretty scary to say... Alas!

dragonfly 09-18-2008 07:00 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
It is Main Stream Media in Croatia!

How did that happen???

And how do we do it????

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 07:01 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
we have to become one machine, that pushes in the same direction, for the same thing, at the same time. it's always harder thinking about it. you just do it. at the end of day if enough people have found this begining conceipt agreeable maybe we submit it to project avalon for assistence. but we need a much larger concensus.

mudhog92 09-18-2008 07:09 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Didn't all the people who changed the status quo start out as nobodies with crazy ideas? Someone has to start the action, lead the way. If one person stands up and speaks out, another will join. Then another, then they tell two friends...lol! It's gotta start somewhere. I'm willing to spread the word to those I know. Yeah most think I'm nuts, but those that know me know I am nuts, so no change for me. It's OK to be thought of as nuts. Columbus, Martin luther King, Galileo, Jesus...they all bucked the system. Look at what they accomplished. Start the ball rolling. As more institutions crash down, more will realize what has been is good no more. They will come for guidance, spread the word, spread love. I will peacefully protest, but I think more important than that is to not buy into their crap. I fight their program by gaining knowledge about the truth, about light. The only thing that concerns me about peacuful protesting is getting gathered up by a goon squad. They've recently been doing that to reporters. Constitution is being flushed.

mntruthseeker 09-18-2008 07:09 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
David just has to give me one more day.

I am healing myself and I'm getting there. I will fight the NWO and I have never protested before

David says he will do something, he will. I can't think of one other person that has done so much to push the word out to the world

Yes I am called schizzo,crazy stupid and told to "grow up" Hell I'm 60, guess growing up is never going to happen to me. :mfr_lol: My family thinks that I should now stay in the house as they are "afraid" of what I will say to the neighbors

HA try to shut me up now:lol3:


I say we must get started as we know they have started already.

There is a three day protest for us but its not til Nov. We need it sooner...

No TV, internet press. no one goes to the store or work Stay home and protest quietly. Stand up in your own yard and let them know this

We will not co-operate :yikes: do you think that will work. We certainly don't want to give them a reason to shoot us with their big bad guns:biggrin2:

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 07:22 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
we just have to have the right stratagy and remember it must match the goal.most times people have high expectations but their plan doesn't match it. i. e.-you want to be an olympic champion,well then your training program must be tough enough to get you there.if your not willing to sacrifice to do that you won't ever attain that goal. this is no different than what we're talking about. project -avalon could possibly become the catalyst we need to accomplish this.

dragonfly 09-18-2008 07:49 PM

Unity Anyone?
 
Please come share ideas and/or visions of how we can come together as loving human beings and take back our planet.

All religious and political convictions aside.
As the humans that we are, what can we do...TOGETHER?

A mass group meditation could be helpful, on an energetic plane anyway. It could start a manifestaion and open up some new avenues.

An idea. Please share yours.

Sorry, I meant this to start a new thread. Oops. "smile" I am new at this forum thing.

Sherab 09-18-2008 08:15 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
I think the first step would be to decide, right now, that you are not going to live your life based on fear and hatred. Decide that you will do everything in your power not to buy into the fear mongering, from "our" side or "theirs". Go tell someone that you care about them, do something nice for your neighbor. And stop buying into the lie, that society and all of us tell ourselves, that we are not worthy, good enough, or able to be safe and happy any time we choose.

The next step would be to learn how to grow your own food, or at least get out in your community and buy from local farmers. An extension of this is buying local goods from local people. It is a revolutionary act of the first order. Think about it.

Next, light your TV on fire and throw it off a tall cliff (you could just get rid of it, but this way is much more fun)

Next is to go meet people in your neighborhood and make friends with them. Build a community wherever you are. Start with what you have.

Finally (this list is obviously not exhaustive) Let Go, and keep letting go. Stay in the present moment. Be relentless in your determination to let go. You are not in control, have never been in control, and never will be in control. This is not new age hogwash. It f**king works.

viking 09-18-2008 08:30 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
If you are all wondering what to do with your thoughts/visualization ... ect etc

Why don't we all visualize the October 14th event happening it so easy... who cannot visualize a huge spaceship in the Sky... if we all believe in the process and it only tales over 2% to tip the balance WE CAN DO IT !!!

If this happens it will open up a HUGE can of worms and not only will the NWO be f***ed but also the rest of those evil people who rule our lives and have led us down the path of despair!

COME ON :yikes:

viking

dragonfly 09-18-2008 08:34 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Yeah, but I wonder if those evil people are "the can of worms".

Problem - Reaction - and oh, wait, ....here they come with the solution.

Discernment.

David 09-18-2008 08:37 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. --Samuel Adams

Jacqui D 09-18-2008 08:39 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Yes i agree with David but as was said before what's next, it's okay saying yeah we're ready but how do we get ourselves out there and change things.
I don't believe it will be done by conscieness alone, there have been a lot of people awakening over the last few years but still we haven't managed to lift the conscience.
I think we need to call an outer force perhaps we need to call on our ancestors, the elders who have been watching their children grow.
We only need to be shown how then everything will full into place.

GaiaLove 09-18-2008 08:48 PM

Re: Unity Anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfly (Post 19032)
Please come share ideas and/or visions of how we can come together as loving human beings and take back our planet.

All religious and political convictions aside.
As the humans that we are, what can we do...TOGETHER?

A mass group meditation could be helpful, on an energetic plane anyway. It could start a manifestaion and open up some new avenues.

An idea. Please share yours.

Sorry, I meant this to start a new thread. Oops. "smile" I am new at this forum thing.

A mass Global meditation would be a step in the right direction. Any "call to Arms" must be answered with Love not Violence or humanity will fall to the evil that has held us in check for centuries. Beyond meditation and unified global thoughts of love and peace I am at a loss as to what else we can do to accomplish our goals.

GaiaLove

giaoue 09-18-2008 08:48 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
If we lose this game & have to come back to a try, try again approach I'm going to volunteer to be the referee. I've always questioned that if we are all one & everything (SELF) then what is the neutral overseer? Maybe it is that there is no rules to abide by & no matter what it's WIN/WIN situation whether we lose in this NOW or win in another NOW. It's all the same to me, - always = + once everthing knows that everything is US (Universal SELF). Don't worry all's happy. :thumb_yello: Worry & doubt amongst conditioned fear just is more fuel for the fire so we should focus on the positive end result within this potential chaos to negate any future negative timelines by just tapping into what we all are --- EveryThing! Just allow the intent of all with the loving flow of NOW.:tongue2:

nagualton 09-18-2008 09:13 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
When the time comes, EveryOne has to align.

ophiuchus 09-18-2008 09:22 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
i think the action required is more along the lines of a sort of sit-out. a day where everyone gets sick(blue flu),stays home and the world stops kind of thing. peaceful,in-action that hits their pockets,sends a message,rallies more support/public interest, awakens the spirit,etc...makes them deviate from their plan to counter event. during this time implement other more specific group activities. there! that's a beginning! welcome back to 1969.

Myplanet2 09-18-2008 09:22 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
I believe the important thing right now is personal responsibility. We have to take our sovereignty into our own hands and use it.

I see the call for a plan or a strategy, as a call to be led. We know what we have to do. all we have to do is to make sure we do it "outside" the pretty little box they've dropped down all around us.

Michael St Claire's advice comes to mind, with the radiant zones. If we take personal responsibility for ourselves, and our loved ones, and branch out from there, we become radiant zones, so to speak.

The money system is in their box, and plays into their control. Let's find opportunities to barter. We'll be functioning just fine when the sucking sound of economy rushing down the drain comes to the snoozers attention. People will notice how unaffected we are, and migrate into our circles.

I may look silly on my bicycle, but I'm not that concerned with gas prices.

In my cold climate, I'd need the means to grow food hydroponically or in heated space, which I've not done yet, but self sufficiency in food moves you outside their box, and will be noticed by those seeing dwindling selection and extremely high prices.

But for sure, we need to stop wondering if it's time to act yet.

Yes, it is. But not to act against "them". Rather, to act "for" us.

Mummy_bean 09-18-2008 09:34 PM

Re: david icke call to arms !
 
Opiuchus is spot on when he says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ophiuchus (Post 18945)
we have to become one machine, that pushes in the same direction, for the same thing, at the same time. it's always harder thinking about it. you just do it. at the end of day if enough people have found this begining conceipt agreeable maybe we submit it to project avalon for assistence. but we need a much larger concensus.

At the moment we are not there at all, There are not that many thing we could all agree on except for 1. We're all worried about the future 2. We all have some sense that the governments have been dishonest about important things 3. that there is somthing going on in the world that is destructive and against humanity. 4. We want to do something. 5. We have some sense of or belief in spirituality.

All of us want peace in the world and dignity and basic rights for every person on the planet.

I'm all for the mass prayer/mediatation idea. However you pray or meditate, (and you don't need to be an expert you just need to be human) , just pray for these two things. Pray or meditate every day and organise a special day too.


It's all well and good David Icke telling us to stand up against the NWO, but that's a concept - not a person. It's a concept and a possibility (not inevitable at all). Who ever peddles the ideas and signs the checks - they haven't won, they won't win.


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