The Revelation (discussion about the 144000)
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Everyone with serious understanding/knowledge about these texts, is welcome to participate to share their experiences, etc. I would like to stress again that only knowledgeable people should contribute, in order for everybody to receive proper understanding regarding this subject. Thank you ALL for your participation/contribution in advance! :wub2: :welcomeani: ~ Love & Light ~ |
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"I would like to stress again that only knowledgeable people should contribute, in order for everybody to receive proper understanding regarding this subject."
Dear TruthSeekerDan-- i'm pretty sure i don't qualify as someone who's particularly "knowledgable" about these texts in Revelations ...... but i have been having difficulty with the concept that the 144,000 is a LITERAL number. But someone's who's opinion i greatly respect, assures me this is so? is that your answer as well? If so, and if you think those of us who haven't studied Revelations in some certain degree of depth (?) can understand this, could you please explain why the number is so low? Are there truly not more than 144,000 on the entire planet who are capable of the higher vibratory rate required by 4th & 5th dimension? that just seems so way off to me, even just in terms of the number of people in my own life whom i would consider holy or enlightened enough to be able to [I]ascend this go-round.[/I :nono: if 144,000 as the LITERAL number of those ready to "ascend" soon is correct, then i think that "narrow way" must be even narrower than i would have suspected ...... especially since our God is a God of Mercy!! (though i do understand that it is each of us, as individual entities, who decides our "placement" after we die ..... but STILL!) :mad3: :tears: :shocked: If you can address this, TSD, i would certainly appreciate it. thanks! hippihillbobbi |
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"I would like to stress again that only knowledgeable people should contribute, in order for everybody to receive proper understanding regarding this subject."
Dear TruthSeekerDan-- i'm pretty sure i don't qualify as someone who's particularly "knowledgable" about these texts in Revelations ...... but i have been having difficulty with the concept that the 144,000 is a LITERAL number. But someone's who's opinion i greatly respect, assures me this is so? is that your answer as well? If so, and if you think those of us who haven't studied Revelations in some certain degree of depth (?) can understand this, could you please explain why the number is so low? Are there truly not more than 144,000 on the entire planet who are capable of the higher vibratory rate required by 4th & 5th dimension? that just seems so way off to me, even just in terms of the number of people in my own life whom i would consider holy or enlightened enough to be able to ascend this go-round. :nono: if 144,000 as the LITERAL number of those ready to "ascend" soon is correct, then i think that "narrow way" must be even narrower than i would have suspected ...... especially since our God is a God of Mercy!! (though i do understand that it is each of us, as individual entities, who decides our "placement" after we die ..... but STILL!) :mad3: :shocked: :tears: :wall: If you can address this, TSD, i would certainly appreciate it. thanks! hippihillbobbi |
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Hi dont shoot the messenger.
Dr David Hawkins a mystic of our time says and I paraphrase. "The book of Revelations was channeled and was very real for the receiver (John?) But was channeled from the lower astral and will happen but not in our realm." My take. In other words it is not going to affect us on earth. I dont think it is possible for a God of Love, the one that Jesus worshiped, to put numbers on anything as important as the human soul. There are many who are not of any religion and of also of all religions who love God. Are they to be ruled out because the magic number is exceeded? I think not. If it were so the teachings of Jesus would be invalid and I sugest they are not. The book of revelations has created so much trouble in this world I just cant believe it is of God. That is my view point. Not saying it is so. Chris |
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Perhaps it is the critical mass of souls required to bring about a shift in the world paradigm.
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The following link is of Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath,
a Kriya Yoga master. In it he discusses 2012 and the upcoming events from his own perspective. At 3mins 25secs in particular he discusses 144,000 and its significance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHeQY...eature=channel It might be useful to watch this link also to get a feel for Yogiraj again discussing 2012 from his own and the Indian perspective. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vq0l1Jx9MY 144,000 has now been discussed or appeared by Indian Yoga master The Bible, and dare I even mention it the Thuban QA What about Law of One? Other sources I have not mentioned? Lets face it these are pretty varied sources. |
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There are 144,000 nerve channels in the body, speaking of Chi force inner G.
144,000 in the esoteric, is the numerical value of ADAM. 72x2=144=9=17 This all jupiter inner G ---17 is Jupiter and Aries the Goat at the Equinox. :original: |
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Thats whats happening in this image,all 144,000 nerve channels , are flowing with CHI
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7724/docman2.jpg |
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I believe the number is really 144,000 people.
After the rapture happens, 144,000 will be chosen to preach the Gospel and will survive God's 7 year wrath on earth. They will go thru the 7 year tribulation trying to teach people about the Gospel and save as many people as possible. Save means accepting Jesus as your savior and not a physical save, so you may have iternal life as John 3:16 states. As each of the 7 trumpets are blown, there will be many deaths, up until the last trumpet, when Jesus will finally reveal himself and every knee will bow. |
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All esoteric students know this number. They know that the secrets of the human body, is the greatest treasure under the sun.
Man Know Thyself!!!!! |
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I would like to thank everyone that contributed or will contribute to this thread. :original:
This subject in particular is one of the most debated amongst theologians, christians, etc. Below is an excerpt from a website by 14 Chakras that I found resonating with what appears to be more plausible. Like everything else that I've looked into, by no means I consider this 'revelation' to be 100% correct (at least for me). :winksmiley02: Quote:
~ Love & blessings to everyone ~ :wub2: |
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Thank you for posting that Truthseekerdan. Very interesting, I'm going to look into that.
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Sanat Kummara and the Lords of the Flame so says The Church Universal and Triumphant Theosophy |
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I thought you have something enlightening to say...? :mfr_omg: |
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I have no opinion on the matter.
This is pasted from the Internet Though find it strange that I have not come across the name before in all my readings . Regards Chris Sanat Kumara According to Church Universal and Triumphant, the Sanat Kumara is the leader of mankind. It has been said that he is the leader of the Illuminati, and it is he who will rule the world in the future. According to certain esoteric, mystic and gnostic traditions, Sanat Kumara (eternal youth in Sanskrit) and 144,000 souls from planet Venus came to Earth in her darkest hour to hold the light of God. Notable beings in the 144,000 include Jesus, Gautama Buddha, and Maitreya Buddha. Sanat Kumara is the great guru, saviour of Earth. Believers see him in all the major religions, as Skanda/Kartikkeya in Hinduism, Brahma-Sanam Kumara in Buddhism, Ancient of Days in Judeo-Christianity and Ahura Mazda in Zoroastrianism. It is also considered that Sanat Kumara is Al Khdir (green man) known to Sufi Muslims (According to Dakshinamurti). A shrine to Sanat Kumara which attracts and unites people of all religions and faiths is situated in the town of Kataragama, Sri Lanka. In the Alice Bailey and Theosophical literature he is called Sanat Kumara or Raudra Chakri - the Buddhist ruler of Shambhala". |
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From what I heard in my neck of the woods is that the Jehovah Witnesses claim that they are the 144,000 ... :naughty:
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don't you think this is a cheap remark truthseekerdan ...?? Im just making you aware that you resonate with Theosophy |
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they also had numerous dates for Armageddon which failed to occur. Cant believe God puts any restriction on souls. God is going to refuse volunteer no 144,001. Oh Yeah!!!! Love is not a numbers game. Bingo is ---Love of money Sorry I cant be serious, what is going on here on the forum and in this world is so ridiculous and absurd I almost find it to be amusing. Important is We are in a way free to choose our destiny. Spiritual intention is what matters. Regards Chris |
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maybe, different people are all from different places
there must be a lot of different places people could be from maybe 144,000 are from venus and, maybe 144,000 from each of the assortment of 7 stars of P and, maybe 144,000 from each of the sirius a/b and x and, what about the grand central sun of earth or, the missing planet, in the asteroid belt or, from nibiri or, there are many, many other places FROM AD TO Acturus, tO lots of other places you'd be here all night long just trying to name them all maybe, just maybe, everyone is from some group of 144,000 ? or, another group of 144,000- maybe, that is how we got cast to earth ? everyone being special 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 and, yes, 144,000 definitely also relates to nerves a lot here to ponder :) |
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I believe that 144,000 refers too both people and nerve channels. I think 144,000 Spiritually Advanced Beings will lead the way for others to follow, and the 12 tribes could be different races(aliens), but I also think I could be wrong. You never know!:wink2::wink2::wink2::original:
ALSO,My family allows Jehovah Witnesses to come in our home and discuss their viewpoints on the bible,once they said one man in their church had claimed he would be one of the 144,000 to ascend and god had told him this. |
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Actually I don't put much store in what is in the bible. It has been fictionlized by the power elite of the past. I think some stuff was just thrown in to keep our minds occupied by details. IMO
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