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Oliver 03-15-2010 09:37 PM

To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Dear Friends,

I have to say something. Not much.
I just finished my review of the Avalon2 site.
I read the guidelines. Too rigorous. Actually it seems to me the one should only think about not breaking some rule, and not how to post something creative.

Also, there will be not personal pages of the members. Well, I don’t like that. Building a community without close personal relations is not possible, in my believe. All that flavors of exchanging and sharing among members were the key of the success of Avalon. We were loving one another that way. We were expressing ourselves the way we feel, giving so much beauty to one another. All that art from the heart, wanting to gave something beautiful to other members...Now, it will not be possible.
No art there will be possible, I think. And were is no art, there is no freedom. And were is no freedom, there is no truth. Were is no truth - there is nothing.

I won`t refer to all rules/guidelines of Avalon 2.
Just this - too rigorous!
Think about it, founders of Avalon2. Actually, I believe, you who are creating Avalon2, with these rules you have a way to ban any member if you just want it. You will find an excuse in these guidelines. Is that your goal?
I would like to think that you want a strict academic discussion there. Hmmm..I don’t think this is the way. Too cold. Too alienated. For me, of course.

The knowledge itself is not truth. The real truth for me is knowledge with love.

A forum that pretends to be a community and a carrier of a new light should have a broadest culture possible. All the positive heritage of humanity. To share it in an openness toward the Universe. To show who we are - humans. We are rich and beautiful. We have achievements. Most sublime ones.
This can’t be achieved with restrictions, dear friends, but with opening new and new possibilities for expressing the souls. Of the collective and of the individuals.

I appeal to Bill and the leaders of the new forum: do not go that way; it is not a path to be followed. Think one more time about keeping alive this beautiful Avalon forum. Really think.With all flavors, beauty, personal relations, all that love around, all that art and warmth…and with all mistakes, yours and ours – why not?! We are learning from them, and growing that way. Even agents and trolls – they are giving us a proof we are doing a good job…we can deal with them, don’t worry about that.

I love you all. I would like to make a mistake about this. But, I have too bitter experiences with divisions for to accept another one. Know this: In the moment when Avalon2 like this starts, it will be a sign that the final division succeed. THEY succeed!

You will all know WHO.

And you will all feel sorry that you didn`t succeed to finish the sublime and noble mission named Project Avalon.

But it will be too late.

Think. And feel.


Love&respect

burgundia 03-15-2010 09:44 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
I want the original Avalon to continue...can we all manifest it??

truthseekerdan 03-15-2010 10:02 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 257331)
And you will all feel sorry that you didn`t succeed to finish the sublime and noble mission named Project Avalon.

But it will be too late.

Think. And feel.


Love&respect

Words of wisdom Oliver, hopefully it's not to late... :sweatdrop:

~ Espavo ~

Oliver 03-15-2010 10:04 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Yes, hopefully, Truthseekerdan.
Thank you.

Swanny 03-15-2010 10:12 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Will humour be allowed at PA2 or have the NFO (new forum order) decided against any form of gaiety?? :shocked:

So far it seems as though it will be a very serious place with no hope of fun :sad:

Oliver 03-15-2010 10:14 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 257361)
Will humour be allowed at PA2 or have the NFO (new forum order) decided against any form of gaiety?? :shocked:

So far it seems as though it will be a very serious place with no hope of fun :sad:

This is very serious question, dear Swanny, indeed.
Thank you.

truthseekerdan 03-15-2010 10:18 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 257361)
Will humour be allowed at PA2 or have the NFO (new forum order) decided against any form of gaiety?? :shocked:

So far it seems as though it will be a very serious place with no hope of fun :sad:

Only the NFO will be allowed to have fun... :wall: :roll1:

greybeard 03-15-2010 10:26 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 257362)
This is very serious question, dear Swanny, indeed.
Thank you.

Read your opening post to the thread.
I havent read the rules of Av1 never mind AV2.
Not a rule person but a heart person.
When some one who is as respected as Mudra is voices concern then I take heed.
I also have the greatest respect for you as well Oliver.
Time being I sit on the fence but lean in the direction of the very valid sentiments of your first post.

Regards
Chris

JesterTerrestrial 03-15-2010 10:26 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
hi Oliver

where did you read this new rules.

I do not like the sounds of this.

I have not yet decided if the Jester will continue on with the games that are being played and join such a crazy bunch. Here i stand on the front lines of new peaceful earth watching the madness happen...i would like to read this before I decide but do agree that this current platform works well.

:)

peace JT!

mudra 03-15-2010 10:30 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
There is'nt any Spirituality subdivision either in PA2.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php

If we look at the number of posts this section of Old Avalon gathered I believe this will be missed by many .
I am sorry to say I can't find my place in PA2.
I would love Avalon to remain the colorfull land it had become through the contributions of our diverse soul signatures .
This is what made PA so special, attractive and inspiring to many .
And what made it sacred to me .
For a long time we have been able to express ourselves freely and lived in peace .
That was the spirit of Avalon .
I wish its gates would never close.

Love Always
mudra

greybeard 03-15-2010 10:37 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 257380)
There is'nt any Spirituality subdivision either in PA2.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php

If we look at the number of posts this section of Old Avalon gathered I believe this will be missed by many .
I am sorry to say I can't find my place in PA2.
I would love Avalon to remain the colorfull land it had become through the contributions of our diverse soul signatures .
This is what made PA so special, attractive and inspiring to many .
And what made it sacred to me .
For a long time we have been able to express ourselves freely and lived in peace .
That was the spirit of Avalon .
I wish its gates would never close.

Love Always
mudra

As you know Mudra I am very much in agreement with you.
If I had the money I would do a management buy out of Avalon.
There is no place like it.
I have been on other forums but never felt the desire to post.
Here I have made real friends people with a real concern for others
Unconditional love is not the exception.
So there were some here that would fight with their shadow but it was a safe place for them to come and play and hopefully grow.

With love
Chris

Oliver 03-15-2010 10:42 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 257374)
Read your opening post to the thread.
I havent read the rules of Av1 never mind AV2.
Not a rule person but a heart person.
When some one who is as respected as Mudra is voices concern then I take heed.
I also have the greatest respect for you as well Oliver.
Time being I sit on the fence but lean in the direction of the very valid sentiments of your first post.

Regards
Chris

Chris, you know I respect you very much.
I expressed my concern.
Thank you for your understanding.
We must appeal to Bill to think again.

Love&Respect

JesterTerrestrial 03-15-2010 10:42 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Mudra you are one of the most special people I have met here!

I am not really into this whole avalon 2 thing!

I am more leaning towards fixing our problems here!

We shall see where the Jester ends up!

I DONT THINK I REALLY NEED AN INVITATION TO MY OWN ISLAND!!!

PEACE JT!

Steven 03-15-2010 10:43 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Hello Oliver. Thank you for the heads up, I didn't know PA2 was up. I've been there, it is just beginning, so I will not make a final appreciation about it before a couple weeks.

But... Ouch! I don't fit there :lol3:. Bah! It doesn't matter. I might go sail in a new direction as well... :trumpet: We live in abundance!

Namaste, Steven

Oliver 03-15-2010 10:55 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial (Post 257375)
hi Oliver

where did you read this new rules.

I do not like the sounds of this.

I have not yet decided if the Jester will continue on with the games that are being played and join such a crazy bunch. Here i stand on the front lines of new peaceful earth watching the madness happen...i would like to read this before I decide but do agree that this current platform works well.

:)

peace JT!

Jester will be Jester wherever he goes. And we will all love him..
Let us hope, SOMEONE will think and feel about all of this.

Cheers, buddy!

greybeard 03-15-2010 10:58 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 257389)
Chris, you know I respect you very much.
I expressed my concern.
Thank you for your understanding.
We must appeal to Bill to think again.

Love&Respect

Listen folks.
Cant we organize a petition on the forum
Very simple.
Keep Avalon as it is warts and all
Yes or no.
I dont know how but my vote is a yes.

No point talking lets do something

Chris

Oliver 03-15-2010 11:01 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 257397)
Listen folks.
Cant we organize a petition on the forum
Very simple.
Keep Avalon as it is warts and all
Yes or no.
I dont know how but my vote is a yes.

No point talking lets do something

Chris

Agree Chris, a new thread-petition should be opened...Please, do it Chris, it is your proposal.

Nebula9D 03-15-2010 11:02 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 257374)
Read your opening post to the thread.
I havent read the rules of Av1 never mind AV2.
Not a rule person but a heart person.

When some one who is as respected as Mudra is voices concern then I take heed.
I also have the greatest respect for you as well Oliver.
Time being I sit on the fence but lean in the direction of the very valid sentiments of your first post.

Regards
Chris




Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial (Post 257375)
hi Oliver

where did you read this new rules.

I do not like the sounds of this.

I have not yet decided if the Jester will continue on with the games that are being played and join such a crazy bunch. Here i stand on the front lines of new peaceful earth watching the madness happen...i would like to read this before I decide but do agree that this current platform works well.

:)

peace JT!


How come everything can't be put in the open "such as the rules" so everyone can read them, not a select few.!

IMHO: I think for this thing to succeed, we all have to be involved in its creation, ALL of us as Co-creators. Otherwise, it seems like only a few are trying to create for all of us.

Starlah 03-15-2010 11:02 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
If we look at the number of posts this section of Old Avalon gathered I believe this will be missed by many .
I am sorry to say I can't find my place in PA2.
I would love Avalon to remain the colorfull land it had become through the contributions of our diverse soul signatures .
This is what made PA so special, attractive and inspiring to many .
And what made it sacred to me .
For a long time we have been able to express ourselves freely and lived in peace .
That was the spirit of Avalon .
I wish its gates would never close.

Love Always
mudra[/QUOTE]

__________________________________________________

Ah Mudra I cry with you and all Avalonians...I don't see a place for like minded souls including myself at the new PA2 either....no embrace for the individual nations & tribes (e.g. categories Canada, South America, U.K., Europe,etc.) to do their postings...no individual member pages to share experiences and relationships...I glanced at the planned Forum and it looks so superficial and shallow...rounded out by elitism "invites only" and strict rule guidelines. Maybe it is just as well...I am not into cultism...and shades of the Illuminati.
__________________________________________________ __

Drinking:cup:

Nebula9D 03-15-2010 11:14 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starlah (Post 257402)
If we look at the number of posts this section of Old Avalon gathered I believe this will be missed by many .
I am sorry to say I can't find my place in PA2.
I would love Avalon to remain the colorfull land it had become through the contributions of our diverse soul signatures .
This is what made PA so special, attractive and inspiring to many
.
And what made it sacred to me .
For a long time we have been able to express ourselves freely and lived in peace .
That was the spirit of Avalon .
I wish its gates would never close.

Love Always
mudra

__________________________________________________

Ah Mudra I cry with you and all Avalonians...I don't see a place for like minded souls including myself at the new PA2 either....no embrace for the individual nations & tribes (e.g. categories Canada, South America, U.K., Europe,etc.) to do their postings...no individual member pages to share experiences and relationships...I glanced at the planned Forum and it looks so superficial and shallow...rounded out by elitism "invites only" and strict rule guidelines. Maybe it is just as well...I am not into cultism...and shades of the Illuminati.
__________________________________________________ __

Drinking:cup:[/QUOTE]


Starlah,

I agree with all you have to say :) Also, Did i miss an announcement or something? Where can i take a glance at the new site??

greybeard 03-15-2010 11:17 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 257399)
Agree Chris, a new thread-petition should be opened...Please, do it Chris, it is your proposal.

Dont know how but Im up for it.
Not being negative but a lot of work has gone into the new so Bill whom I respect has no need to accede to any poll
Chris

Oliver 03-15-2010 11:17 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebula9D (Post 257408)
__________________________________________________

Ah Mudra I cry with you and all Avalonians...I don't see a place for like minded souls including myself at the new PA2 either....no embrace for the individual nations & tribes (e.g. categories Canada, South America, U.K., Europe,etc.) to do their postings...no individual member pages to share experiences and relationships...I glanced at the planned Forum and it looks so superficial and shallow...rounded out by elitism "invites only" and strict rule guidelines. Maybe it is just as well...I am not into cultism...and shades of the Illuminati.
__________________________________________________ __

Drinking:cup:


Starlah,

I agree with all you have to say :) Also, Did i miss an announcement or something? Where can i take a glance at the new site??
[/QUOTE]


Here is the link, Nebula

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php

truthseekerdan 03-15-2010 11:19 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 257397)
Listen folks.
Cant we organize a petition on the forum
Very simple.
Keep Avalon as it is warts and all
Yes or no.
I dont know how but my vote is a yes.

No point talking lets do something

Chris

If we are allowed to buy the domain name (projectavalon.net), I'm sure we can find another server and an IT guy to transfer/set the forum for "US" the way it is now.

JMHO

Nebula9D 03-15-2010 11:21 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 257410)
Starlah,

I agree with all you have to say :) Also, Did i miss an announcement or something? Where can i take a glance at the new site??


Here is the link, Nebula

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php[/QUOTE]


Thank you Oliver!

Are we able to logon ??? Or i still need an invite?

namaste

Nebs

Oliver 03-15-2010 11:21 PM

Re: To the founders of Avalon2: Think and feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 257409)
Dont know how but Im up for it.
Not being negative but a lot of work has gone into the new so Bill whom I respect has no need to accede to any poll
Chris

Let us hope, Chris.
I also believe Bill is a man of soul.
He need to have a broader vision.
He have a possibility to lead the most beautiful group on internet in a way that made this group so beautiful.


Greetings.


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