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I understand you.
There is an old proverb in my people: "Where is pain - there is cure!"

Greetings

The freedom to know where I first went askew and the freedom to correct that or change that and create anew if I so desire.

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Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 255059)

I understand you.
There is an old proverb in my people: "Where is pain - there is cure!"

Greetings

As we say in my social circle, "The way out is the way we came in", and it does hurt, :mfr_lol:

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Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 255199)

As we say in my social circle, "The way out is the way we came in", and it does hurt, :mfr_lol:

:lol3::mfr_lol:

Yes I always experience a resistance right before I take myself into a clearing session. I always come out the other end of the session glad I gave up whatever it was I initially was not wiling to give up.

Gnosis,
That so true. More space to collect new staff. :lmfao:

Love
t&i

Nirvana-
The realm of Absolute peace that transcends the mind and its desires.

BC

Gnosis, Truth, Bushy...Love!

This video is from Burgundia.
My answer to it`s question is: YES!!!

Well, it brought us all together.

A conditioned mind cannot discover truth.
Freedom is not an abstraction,
but it comes into being with virtue.

- Jidu Krishnamurti

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/10293991-md.jpg

A conditioned mind cannot discover truth.
Freedom is not an abstraction,
but it comes into being with virtue.

Well said. A conditioned mind will never discover truth. We may run our life on an automatic pilot that comes from conditioning, falsely believing that we have found truth. Freedom really comes from doing what feels right and not what comes from our conditioning. But it takes inner strengths and the courage to swim against the river and to be authentic and free from programming.

Love to you all,
t&i

Since all of us will must make a personal decision, here is mine.
I decided to be member to all 3 forums, where Avalonians are in the moment - Avalon2, The Mists of Avalon and this Avalon, till it is still alive.
I am giving a chance to Avalon 2 with clear heart, hopping there can be a new better start, but if I sense some behavior that made so much damage to the community - I will leave also with clear heart.
The Mists of Avalon is also part of us - we are the same people, with the same hearts.
Hopping that we shall find a way to fix and repair what is done, I wish you all to follow your hearts and to have your decisions as it is best for you.

Love and Respect

Your decision is good, Oliver. Follow heart. I am glad Freedom thread will carry on. It is brilliant.

BC

Thank you, Bushycat for all your contribution here.
It is inspiring.

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Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 258458)

Can someone point me to "The Mists Of Avalon" please. I keep seeing references to it but I can't find it.

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Originally Posted by justpeter (Post 259037)

Can someone point me to "The Mists Of Avalon" please. I keep seeing references to it but I can't find it.

Here it is
http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...mistsofavalon&

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Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 259041)

Here it is
http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...mistsofavalon&

Thanks:original:

A reminder - quotes about censorship

We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

The fact is that censorship always defeats its own purpose, for it creates, in the end, the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion. ~Henry Steele Commager

The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen. ~Tommy Smothers

Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart

We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our peril, risk and hazard. ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764

The dirtiest book of all is the expurgated book. ~Walt Whitman

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~Voltaire

The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas. ~Alfred Whitney Griswold, New York Times, 24 February 1959

Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one. ~Abbott Joseph Liebling, "Do You Belong in Journalism?" New Yorker, 4 May 1960

A free press can be good or bad, but, most certainly, without freedom a press will never be anything but bad. ~Albert Camus

To reject the word is to reject the human search. ~Max Lerner, 1953, on book purging

Nature knows no indecencies; man invents them. ~Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

What progress we are making. In the Middle Ages they would have burned me. Now they are content with burning my books. ~Sigmund Freud, 1933

Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings. ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823

Every burned book enlightens the world. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

The paper burns, but the words fly away. ~Akiba ben Joseph

Did you ever hear anyone say, "That work had better be banned because I might read it and it might be very damaging to me?" ~Joseph Henry Jackson

If you don't have this freedom of the press, then all these little fellows are weaseling around and doing their monkey business and they never get caught. ~Harold R. Medina

Obscenity is not a quality inherent in a book or picture, but is solely and exclusively a contribution of the reading mind, and hence cannot be defined in terms of the qualities of a book or picture. ~Theodore Schroeder

Assassination is the extreme form of censorship. ~George Bernard Shaw

I believe in censorship. I made a fortune out of it. ~Mae West

Censorship feeds the dirty mind more than the four-letter word itself. ~Dick Cavett

The test of democracy is freedom of criticism. ~David Ben-Gurion

If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

To choose a good book, look in an inquisitor’s prohibited list. ~John Aikin

We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. ~John F. Kennedy

God forbid that any book should be banned. The practice is as indefensible as infanticide. ~Rebecca West

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. ~Noam Chomsky

Take away the right to say "****" and you take away the right to say "**** the government." ~Lenny Bruce

Every human being has a right to hear what other wise human beings have spoken to him. It is one of the Rights of Men; a very cruel injustice if you deny it to a man! ~Thomas Carlyle

Books won't stay banned -
Ideas won't go to jail.
~Alfred Whitney Griswold

You can cage the singer but not the song. ~Harry Belafonte, in International Herald Tribune, 3 October 1988

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~Voltaire

The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship. And censorship, that by-product of fear - stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others - must surely be resisted. ~Jonathon Green, "Did You Say 'Offensive?'," as posted on wordwizard.com

http://njnnetwork.files.wordpress.co...censorship.jpg

Censorship offends me.

- Author Unknown

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1012/...fd3ab6ecde.jpg

Today, I have no idea what freedom is.
Probably because I was free.
The Spring came.

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Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 260135)

Today, I have no idea what freedom is.
Probably because I was free.
The Spring came.

May your fly high Oliver .
No bounderies ..just Love .

Love from me
mudra

:mfr_omg: itsa-time-loop-see

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Originally Posted by Oliver (Post 256844)

[A conditioned mind cannot discover truth.
Freedom is not an abstraction,
but it comes into being with virtue.

- Jidu Krishnamurti

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/9mLS7iyYeVE/default.jpg

yeea

Thanks, Mudra. You too.

Idunno: Yea indeed! Krishnamurti :wub2: