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Boober 03-03-2010 02:38 AM

Be the first follower
 
Be the first follower , to show others how to follow! Cool concept.Cool video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iREosB1MKxc&feature=sub

How do I posts videos?

nagual 03-03-2010 07:36 AM

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DON'T be a follower.

gita 03-03-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Boober (Post 247416)
Be the first follower , to show others how to follow! Cool concept.Cool video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iREosB1MKxc&feature=sub

How do I posts videos?

Be the best leader so that you can show others how to best lead themselves.:thumb_yello:

raulduke 03-04-2010 06:01 AM

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That was awesome Boober. Great video (second follower is the best :lol3:).

Nagual, I feel like maybe you didn't watch the vid?

It makes a good point, and maybe a bit relevant to our current events here at PA.

Leadership can be overrated, well, leaders who are in it to be leaders are. The best leaders are ones who know what is really important, the movement. Which means that the leader and members are equals because they have the same goals.

Boober, click quote on my post to see how to post a vid (u only want everything after the v= part of the youtube url).

abraxasinas 03-04-2010 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gita (Post 247517)
Be the best leader so that you can show others how to best lead themselves.:thumb_yello:

I like this Gita.
This is a great honour, to pretend to lead, until a certain platform is reached and then to refuse to lead any longer.

Abraxas

Christo888 03-04-2010 06:44 AM

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Cool vid... :lol3:
:woot_jump::groupwave::partytime2::cheers:

Cool quote Raulduke:thumb_yello:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa_j...eature=related

nagual 03-04-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by raulduke (Post 248311)


Nagual, I feel like maybe you didn't watch the vid?

I did watch the vid, it is funny :thumb_yello:
but those people are not followers in any true sense of the word, but an object of manipulation.

The terms leader and follower imply the freedom and independent judgment of both.
If the behavior of either is compelled, whether by force, economic necessity, contractual arrangement, mass hypnosis, etc.
the relationship is altered to one of superior/subordinate, management/employee, master/servant, or owner/slave. All such relationships are materially different than leader-follower.

True leading and following presume perpetual liberty of both leader and follower to sever the relationship and pursue another path.
A true leader cannot be bound to lead. A true follower cannot be bound to follow.
The moment they are bound, they are no longer leader or follower.

True leaders are those who epitomize the general sense of the community — who symbolize, legitimize, and strengthen behavior in accordance with the sense of the community — who enable its conscious,
shared values and beliefs to emerge, expand, and be transmitted from generation to generation-who enable that which is trying to happen to come into being.
The true leader's behavior is induced by the behavior of every individual who chooses where they will be led.

raulduke 03-04-2010 07:55 AM

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Hi nagual, thanks for elaborating.

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Originally Posted by nagual (Post 248323)
If the behavior of either is compelled, whether by force, economic necessity, contractual arrangement, mass hypnosis, etc.
the relationship is altered to one of superior/subordinate, management/employee, master/servant, or owner/slave.

Agreed, but that's why I liked the video, because I took from it that leadership is overrated, what is important is a feeling that many share but for some reason fail to act in large numbers upon. A leader is someone who merely sparks that movement coming together in some way, and realizes that they are simply a catalyst, regardless of wether others want to bestow fame upon them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagual (Post 248323)
True leading and following presume perpetual liberty of both leader and follower to sever the relationship and pursue another path.
A true leader cannot be bound to lead. A true follower cannot be bound to follow.

:thumb_yello: Career politicians and cable news watchers should all read this.

It also obviously makes sense to renew one's analysis of a leader that wants to hang on to the spotlight, they may still be effective, but obviously celebrity has ways of corrupting. By the same token, someone constantly looking for leadership should reevaluate their own capabilties of independent thought. There should be balance of seeking knowledge from inside and outside of one's self.

:lol3: I like that we're breaking down this goofy vid so intellectually.

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Originally Posted by Christo888 (Post 248319)

Thanks Christo. Here's the scene, love this one. :original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTJeT2i9QU

Greetings 03-04-2010 08:21 AM

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Excellent video!!!


This is what it IS all about. YOU and your friends.

There is no such thing as a leader or a follower. A leader is following what he/she believes in, and a follower is leading himself into what he chooses. It's so simple!

Nagual: All due respect, i think your overthinking this. - "A wise man knows he knows nothing."

nagual 03-04-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Greetings (Post 248353)

Nagual: All due respect, i think your overthinking this. - "A wise man knows he knows nothing."

perhaps...

but I believe one should be neither a leader nor a follower...

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...of_duality.jpg

rhythm 03-04-2010 08:57 AM

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