what 'is' emotion?
 

Seriously, what is "emotion" and why do we have it?

Is emotion that little "spark" "they" are looking for?

Is emotion thee ONLY way "through"?

How does one protect and use properly the "gift" of emotion?

Are we controlled by emotion while also blessed by it?


A very big emotional thank you to all for being here!

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The Importance of Emotions.
This is the reason for alien abductions given by Drunvalo Melchizedek in his book, “The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life.” The Gray aliens are at the end of their life cycle. Their emotions were bred out of them long ago in order to survive conditions on their planet which was dying. They know they cannot make it through the coming dimensional shift without love. In order to make it through to higher dimensions, they have to have the emotion of love. Humans have the ability to love, so the Grays want to crossbred with us in hopes to somehow get that love for themselves. They were granted permission to experiment with humans by the Galactic Command because all humans have a little Gray blood in them from the days of Atlantis when the Grays came to earth from Mars. But they cannot succeed. They will not succeed. When the shift comes they will disappear and no longer exist. But we humans WILL make it through because we have the capacity to love.

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Very interesting, I have read about this. hmmm a battle for 'love'

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emotion makes us different from Instinctive animals.. Emotion is like the comet in the universe that smacks into the planet to change it, for the 1st time after 1 trillion years because a meteor smacked into it hard enough to move it over just a little to a furthest degree.. Emotion is a force that changes the landscape OF LIFE!!!!! A complex form of technology you should be thankful for in one form or another. You are something.. Not part of it, you are SOMETHING... One hell of a question man, I had to drift off into the left side of my brain to think of that one...

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Excellent question sammytray.
Each of us would likely define emotion a little bit differently...for instance...if you asked a neuro-biologist what emotion is, they might say emotions are electro-chemical actions and re-actions which take place in various regions of our brains. Similar to sensational triggers caught by our eyes, ears, skin and other sensory organs. A strictly scientific approach perhaps.
While those trained in other disciplines might define emotions in still different ways. That (to me) is the value in such a question...to see how each of us define intangibles.

My personal definition of emotion is up in the air, I've not settled on any one explanation, as of yet. Perhaps that's one of the reasons I still "study" as much as I do. To date, evidence has shown me that emotions are one of a very few 'things' that are "real". It seems all matter exists only in my mind, as a result of my brain drawing conclusions from my senses. If this is true, then my thoughts and emotions are the only 'things' that are actually "real". Thoughts and emotions carry over from the dream state to the waking state, while the 'matter' involved in dreams vanishes at the first sign of waking.
Perhaps this "waking' state is yet another illusion, layered upon another illusion...it's very hard to put to words (forgive me).

At any rate...excellent question. I look forward to others responses.
:original:

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to me, emotions are like a sort of bridge between the mind, thoughts, and the body. kinda hard to put in words. thoughts and emotions seem to chase each other all the time, thoughts followed by emotions and reversed. easy to get caught in circles, not so easy to step out of these circles. anyway, with the body one can sense and experience these emotions.

gregg braden talks a lot about the importance of emotions in prayer.
(google gregg braden movies and you'll see a lot of talks, interviews)

maybe therefore in these times, there is so much emo-smog created by tv and commercials etc. we need more and more to still get a kick, and the more subtle emotions are left unnoticed.

maybe this contamination, likely created on purpose, shows the importance of paying attention to emotions, so we can use them as a tool?

thanks for the question, looking forward to others responses too.

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I am trying to understand this word “emotion” myself, which I believe is part of a “bigger picture”.
For the moment I believe in the following simplified model and that a human mainly consist of three parts: Body, Soul and Spirit.

Body = Physical carrier, made of flesh and blood for this (physical) dimension.

Soul = Consists of memory and intellect, collected mainly in this (physical) dimension.

Spirit = Our immortal part, which can reincarnate into new humans, has collected memories from all its earlier human lifetimes.
As I understand this gives a consequence that the Spirit must experience some kind of “linear time”, and that means that the Spirit itself has to learn and collect experiences.

I believe further that in the “next dimension” there is another “next dimension”.
How many different dimensions that exists? - I have no idea.
I believe that the Spirit can communicate with “next dimension” or “other dimensions” or even God and also other “spiritual entities”.
I believe that God is at the “highest dimension level” (=“All that is”). I also believe that we are all part of God (All is one).
Our Body and our Soul are “working” mainly in this physical dimension and The Spirit is “working” mainly in the “next dimension” or “other dimensions”.
It seems to me that one can evoke contacts with different “spiritual entities”, good or evil.

Then we come to the word “emotion”.
I believe that emotions is a way for our Spirit to communicate with our Body and Soul.
I believe also that we always have to check the emotions with our Soul (defined above), in case of evil infected “spiritual entities” of our Soul, as a safety precaution.
I have no idea if a serial killer is following its “emotions”.

I believe also that if our Soul is not affected by some evil entities, we want the following:
Love (preferably philia and agape), Freedom, Truth, Joy, Harmony, Appreciation, Empowerment, Belief, Happiness, Passion, Balance and so on positive words.

Love, Freedom and Truth
stiros

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The waters of emotion has to be stilled in order to reflect the light from above. I feel that love is beyond emotion and attachment.It is a matter of choice. Love is wanting what is best for the others, even if what is best for them is not going to suit you.

Love is totally selfless and it is an act, not an emotion. We often mistake it for emotion because it is usually contained in strong emotions. But love is not an emotion…. love is creative action. It is the most creative act in the universe”.
http://freshimagehosting.com/images/...xxoytntbh1.jpg Balance, peace and harmony

http://freshimagehosting.com/images/...9tzq2swt90.jpgTurbelence of emotions wearing down the shores of life and unable to reflect the divine.These are choices.

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Could 'emotion' be the 'sixth' sense (five senses) that is always talked about?

hmmm - sight, smell, touch, sound, taste = 5 ... emotion = 6 ..mark of the beast etc... ?? I don't know , reaching here.

That 'sixth' 'sense' would mean we have SIX senses not FIVE...?

The missing link to understanding or even the missing link that has been buried purposely or kept from us.

creation/matter/manifestation requires "emotion" right? What if 'they' have manipulated our abilities to 'emotionally' think? What if they have "added" there own masked intentions under our emotional abilities? (reaching again here)

Is music emotion???? Music changes the molecular levels of water, plants etc... emotion is frequency???

On an on... looking forward to more input :thumb_yello:

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Hmmmm

lets try and breakdown the word 'emotion'

E-M-O-T-I-O-N


5-13-15-20-9-15-14 = 37 or 1+2+3+4 - order,sequence,
E-motion

E-(energy) motion

E-mot-ion

Just thinking here :original:

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Good question Sammytray~

When an individual looks at a question like this, he has the opportunity to be objective, and objectivity is necessary for a deep, unconditional understanding.

Truth, seems best thought as unfixed, so from that perspective, my words here are hypothesis, gathered from the collective and my own conscious experiences which are really only a memory.

Emotions seem to be the result of thoughts, either focused or not, forged from the self conscious human.
Indeed they are energy, but at what frequency do emotions hold the individual?
Are emotions only a device that keep man from his highest vibration, where pure consciousness or source is realized?
Emotions seem to play a role in compartmentalizing one man from the next, giving the illusion of division, in the "I" and "you." Perhaps they are a product of the ego and it's addictive behavior, attachment/identification.

It is as if they hold on to psychological time as a reality. Emotions are sticky, keeping man in a place of desire ( I want more of this, or I want it to stop), instead of constantly flowing with unconditional observation, intuition or pure action.
Emotions are sticky in that they force a past moment to continue through their frequency, even though the event that caused the emotion is dead and gone.
The human continues to focus there, keeping the emotion and the self conscious awareness of illusion alive for himself, which lowers his frequency.

If aliens are so fascinated by us because of our emotions, perhaps they are trying to help rid us of them, so that the illusion of division can be seen for what it is, un-real.
Perhaps they see us getting caught up in our emotions, and know that it is these emotions that keep us from the freedom we are striving for.
The striving itself, is it's own death of the result desired. As is desire.

The high vibration we are capable of, is attained in pure neutral consciousness.
Where manifestation is not necessary, because nothing is desired.
All IS.
"IS" naturally, is expansive/unfixed/Oneness.

Is emotion the result of collective psychological conditioning that suggests we are separate, capable of ending and in need of becoming or lasting?
All of that has it's roots in psychological time, yesterday, tomorrow, today.
And if man lives in that, is he not only recycled action, prone to emotions, that will ultimately keep him from what IS?

What IS , exists without consequence, fear or desire.

And like you Sammytray, I'm just throwing this out there..
Looking at it, unconditionally.

Thank You,
CW

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Circlewerk,

A most wonderful description with explanation! :thumb_yello:
Thank you kindly for your input... This information is 'pinging' with me. :original:

So NO emotion is ultimately the goal?
'isness' is NOT emotion? How or what 'word' can describe 'isness'. (like some would explain it as love) But I have read love is not an emotion.

I guess the only way to control emotion...lets say anger is to add love which conquers it. However, where did 'anger' come from? Why should we EVER have that emotion? Maybe a lack of "knowledge"??

Is it a ruse? Emotion?

I know I can 'block' a certain emotion from rising up from the gut but only by 'talking' myself out of it per say. With another emotion!

another thing... creation is focus or intent right? Would you say we 'need' emotion to create whether positive or Negative?

Or is it simply KNOWLEDGE that overides ANY emotion thus creating NATURALLY with OUT emotion?

Wait one minute... is emotion simply a program we've been inputted with?

Still just throwing this out there!! :thumb_yello:

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Loving this exchange Sammytray~
:winksmiley02:

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CIRCLEWERK!!!!! :mfr_omg: Loving this eXchange as well :thumb_yello:

I am reading and re-reading... so much to contemplate and KNOW!

Looking forward to being CLEAR with my eXchanges.

WOW! :original:

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I'm liking the exchange happening here too...thanks all.

Could emotions be our life force energy? Existing in a spectrum form, like electromagnetic energy (in that sense anyway). A spectrum that ranges from one polar opposite to another, with hate at one end and Love at the other?

As far as being programmed...think about this:
What makes a new born baby smile or cry? certainly not programming...I'd think.

I too am just "throwing this out there".

:original:

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If so, are we playing this trick on ourselves?
Tricky, no doubt..but a trick, a ruse?..are emotions acquired from a source other than us?
If emotions are the result of thoughts, and our thoughts are not always our own, how would the individual recognize his thoughts versus an acquired, recycled thought, which causes emotion too?
This deserves further investigation, maybe.

"observing" the masses (the pain) instead of attaching emotion would then release the "chains" (emotions) the masses are chained to. ?? Gosh, what if all who knew this started to think this way? :original:

Original thought vibration, creates. Constantly.
No attachment to what it created now, or now, or right now..
No attachment to whether or not that creation will continue or cease to exist.
Emotion is attachment.

Stepping into the observer mode with no emotion invokes a "vibration" that is of "god" (sorry for the 'g' word) and assists for the highest and best good of all...??? Selflessness, for the whole of humanity??

Positive and negative are ideas that have been influenced upon our psyche's, acting as a trap, keeping man in psychological time.
Perhaps everything is nothing, yet we label, because we desire knowledge, but in reality, truth is not fixed.
Perhaps free will does not exist, because man is emotional, based on influenced, emotion based thoughts, rooted in man-made definitions.
I am comfortable saying, I don't know,
yet it's interesting to look into.

Wait one minute... is emotion simply a program we've been inputted with?

lol...maybe??
Or perhaps we're being inputted constantly. Other entities, other dimensions, we acquire thoughts from them, unintentionally & unaware, and rarely does one stop and exercise non-thought, or even question the origin of a thought and whether it is original (vibration) or acquired.

Now that could be another can of worms! :original:

Money for example is VERY emotional and very much an ILLUSION. Yes?

Not long ago, I was talking to my 12 year old daughter about thoughts, emotions..
I asked her if she thought that her thoughts were her own..
Her reply was this..
" I don't know, not always, because sometimes I hear someone talking with an accent, and they're not even female."

Once again, another LARGE can of worms to open!
I often wonder where these thoughts could come from:shocked: ??

Has this happened to you? It has happened to me.
And if left unchecked, those thoughts could become an emotion.
Is there an agenda? ABSOLUTELY
And if so, how productive could emotions be, beyond keeping man stuck in the illusion that psychological time has enabled? I believe keeping us STUCK IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL! This again is a LARGE new can of worms :shocked:

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I can sit here motionless completely inactive, and still "feel" Love...in whatever intensity I choose...no?
and what about self Love?
:original:

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Is love simply labeled "perfect vibration" ???

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Your programming statement is very interesting... makes me think.

Maybe when the 'consciousness' is mature enough it is programmed???

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There is programming...no doubt.
It derails us from true being (true to ourselves, that is).
We are taught to be happy/satisfied when things go well...good job, lots of income...etc.
And, unhappy when things go 'not so well'...bad hair day...heheh:original:

We need outside influences to realize our happiness, or sadness for that matter.

It doesn't need to be that way. Simply enjoying fresh air should provoke "satisfaction"...imho.

:original:

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:original:makes sense Rareheart!!!!

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IMO

Becoming Emotionless is the goal. Within each spiritual dimension we perfect our emotions by experiencing those emotions in a worst possible way (ex: kill someone or be killed by your family member) and once you go through this emotion over infinity (parrarel worlds where you exist in same time same earth but different dimension and events), you perfect and move on to the next.
Like DAvid willcock said the "4th dimension is the love dimension," where you'll be perfecting your love emotion and eventually making it totally controllable unlike what we do in 3rd dimension where our love in 3rd is totally uncotrolable by us. Also when Billy Meier talks about travels apperently Pleadians, or whoever is more evolved, do not telepat love emotions like billy have done to some pretty lady in the ship which she have cought on to his thoughts telepathicaly and told him that they do not transmit such emotions so openly. And finally 5th spiritual dimension of wisdom: where i believe stopping to love yourself is the goal.
So IMO in this dimension we evolve by trying to eliminate emotions like how do we look ,what people think about us, or doing something stupid and feeling bad.

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Hi guys, great discussion
this topic has been recurring for me for a number of years and so far my conclusion is: on a physical level emotions manifest as a feeling through various chemical combinations secreted in the brain from the thought patterns we use to give meaning to external events.
If we are asleep we repeate these pattern meanings and create suffering in our lives.
when we start to wake up we realise that these emotions are not us because we can detatch from them, giving us the ability to change the meaning we give things and lessen the suffering
so i thought that detatching was going to give me a balance somewhere in the middle of the rollercoaster ride but instead day to day existance became meaningless and my mind felt dull and my relationships suffered as i became more reactionless and spent the time observing myself rather than interacting in the relationship
i believe now that emotions are a key to evolution of the mind and that they are a necessasary energy for us to work with
through our emotion positive and negative energy currents flow (masculine/feminine , yin/yang ) being balanced all the time is kind of like being androgenous neither yin or yang, suppressing anything that might lead us out of balance
so allowing all emotion to flow freely and to accept and be ok with with what comes up, kind of a paradox, being of it but not in it, whether positive or negative be awake in that experience and moving with it is the new balance for me
with this we can start to see whether the patterns we run are serving us for the best in the current situation
sometimes it seems as though things are conspiring against us and anger or frustration arises so we push it down until finally a small event occurs and the reaction isn't in proportion to the event, so we can be vigilent and don't let any any emotion sucking energies/entities that may be present to draw us in.
so now i'm also trying to act on Joseph Campbell's statement : always follow your Bliss and Bashar says move to your highest excitment so whatever our emotional state be excited and blissfull in full awareness of it
part of being human is to experience a full range of emotion
my 2 cents worth
cheers
Buruso

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A question of prime importance. :thumb_yello:

The thought and the emotion are deeply linked together. The thought is felt at the level of the head, the top of the body, like a command center. The emotion is felt at the heart level, the center of the body, like an engine center. Together, they make up the consciousness. The "intelligence" driven with "power". In emotion their is a smaller part of thought, in thought there is a smaller part of emotion.

Like thought, but in a different manner, emotion is language. It is communicating to us. The higher consciousness communicate through emotion all the time. It is a barometer for one to measure the world. Love is not an emotion, but is being felt with the help of emotion when it comes. Like fear or joy. These are not emotions, these are felt with emotions when they comes. So one can be sensitive to the world and observe it with another kind of intelligence.

When one do not listen to his/her emotion, alienation grows. Integrity disappear. True happiness is hard to reach. It is like missing a part of your being.

It is the ability to feel/understand the outside world for it's true purpose. It is the fuel to sustain a thought to become reality. It is the source of inspiring thoughts that surpass the thinker.

Emotions are as important as thoughts, not above nor below. Just two composite of consciousness. They both defines one's actual consciousness.

Only my thoughts, Steven

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I heard it put this way in a movie, do you know what Love is? then what color is it? feelings are kinda abstract conseptions...

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I have learned that emotions motivate us. Thoughts help us to reason and process data such as a computer. Emotions are the motivators that get us to create or take action.

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Hi again,
not sure about this but i think feelings and emotions are different because we can feel fear or happiness about thoughts and emotions.there are different ranges of emotion some volentary some involentary
so how do we feel about sadness, maybe it arose because we didn't achieve the desired outcome
how do we feel about grief, uncontrolled emotional expression due to the loss of a loved one
with feeling we can be objective about our emotions
with feeling into the content of things we can expand our awareness around things
cheers

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Hi Rareheart~

When you ponder life force being emotions, does that spark intuitive clarity?
You wrote, " With hate at one end, and love at another."
Would this suggest that life force is limited to these polarities at each end? That nothing exists beyond them as the force of life?

Intuitively, I see emotions as a barrier to what IS (or God, call it whatever you want). Emotions are a sort of restless rest stop, often keeping the individual from ever reaching beyond them, due to their hypnotic, addicting,trance like glue , and if he doesn't detach, he is living self-consciously. There is more, I am sure of this.
The more, is realized & experienced when the mind is not in movement of thought, desire.
When it is content to honestly say, " I don't know."

If one gets hung up in emotion, the harmony of high vibration ceases to be experienced fully. Emotions are temporary at best and leave the individual wanting more or less, always focused on self-consciousness/emotions.
Dividing one from all that is.


Self-consciousness lives in terms of gain & loss. These are the tides of emotions.
Infinite consciousness has no boundaries, that I can imagine or that have been discovered.
And again, I don't know.


About the babies..
Reflex. And instinct.
Mirror neurons too??

When a baby is hungry, uncomfortable or tired, they'll cry, make noise.
I think that's animal instinct.
When we coo at them, smile and make faces, they will on occasion, try to mimic this..I think that is mirror neurons.
And too, my babies smiled even unprovoked..could be reflex, could be that they see what I don't..I don't know.
I don't think they're conditioned, if so, could it be from a past life (s)?
A karmic response, which boils down to a memory or memories, carried over.
What if the Akashic records were wiped clean? For all. What if the entire slate of knowledge, created from psychological time, the dead, the collective finger prints that cause recycled misery, division, what if it was totally erased?
No fear, no beliefs, nothing to reference in order to create in our relationships with others, self..

Sorry...that last part could be a whole other Oprah show.

Cool to ponder this..thank you.
CW

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Sammytray~

I'm going to c&p your questions here, to keep it as clean and simple as I can, without my previous statements, hopefully making it easier to follow~


You wrote;
"observing" the masses (the pain) instead of attaching emotion would then release the "chains" (emotions) the masses are chained to. ?? Gosh, what if all who knew this started to think this way?

When I saw that my past had only been kept alive through my emotional focus on it, I was then ready & able to detach emotionally from it.
I realized, that what had happened to me as a child, only ever effected me afterward, because I was programmed to think it would, that it must.
I was told to focus there, to dig into it, re-feel it, to identify with it, as if it created me or left a stain.
Little did I know that I could have looked at it without emotion, and liberated from it years earlier.
Had I been able to see this so called "abuse" as nothing, until it is labeled, I would have been far more careful to NOT label, and to not focus on it.
But you see, there is no money in a cure~
We are conditioned to think life is problematic, when in truth, we are the problem. Our conditioned minds do the labeling, and when something is labeled a problem, we self-consciously continue to manifest that very thing.

There is no controlling a society that is aware and fearless. Being emotional is encouraged.
We are also conditioned to think that if we don't feel it, we are shoving it down...
Bullshirt.
I can have an experience, see it as an experience that I either prefer or don't, and move forward.
The moment I attach a self conscious label to it, when I identify with it, as if that experience is me, it will stay alive in my now.
Even though the experience happened 30 years ago. Dead & gone.

If I allow myself to discover every moment undefined by the past or my conditioning, I am creating in high vibration.


You wrote;

Stepping into the observer mode with no emotion invokes a "vibration" that is of "god" (sorry for the 'g' word) and assists for the highest and best good of all...??? Selflessness, for the whole of humanity??

Living unconditionally, observing with neutrality, is peaceful.
No judgment, no competition, no fear of loss or desire to gain..
No division.
If motive is introduced, if you want to do this, to get that, you lose the closeness to it.
What is good for mankind, is unknown by one man. When he thinks he does know what is best for all, he is self-conscious.
Be there, and experience there, but not with desire to know it, so you can box it up, that is impossible, it is unfixed, constant movement.
Besides, the moment you think something is known, it becomes part of the collective again, a memory..let it go.
Keep experiencing.

You wrote;

Money for example is VERY emotional and very much an ILLUSION. Yes?


Money is energy. Nothing more. It is to you, whatever you label it.
I think money is best circulated, as with all energy. Just keep it moving.



Alright, Love..
I'm out for the night.
Again, thanks.
Stimulating~

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Hi Buruso~

Mind if I ask a couple questions? If it is too personal, no problem, I'll understand.
When you said that you thought detaching would give you balance, did you realize that you were still attached?
You were doing something, in order to gain something else..
Is that not attachment?
Hope, is attachment.
A crutch even, no? As is desire.
Detachment, to me, is giving up the desire to gain as well as the fear of loss..
It means not identifying with the emotion so much so, that it becomes me.
I can see it, and not act it out, know what I mean?

I continue to laugh, to cry..I continue to feel..yet in detaching emotionally, in being infiinite consciousness instead of self-consciousness, I experience far more balance than ever and what happens, is abundant peace on every front.
This is not a constant for me, I am still conditioned, but I am aware more often.
I find comfort in uncertainty, and not needing to know everything.
As for my relationships, I at no point feel that I am responsible for the way another feels.
That is self-consciousness. A trap to keep the burden of past & future tainting the present, which is spotless unless I get emotional, lol.

Perhaps your mind felt dull, because it was detoxing?
Emotions are the heroine of the self-conscious human it seems..
We are seemingly addicted to movement, even in the mind..
Did you become aware of what was beyond thought, beyond memory?
If so, how was that experience?
I can understand how relationships can be ignored, when constantly observing the self..
Perhaps it would have been beneficial to experience everything, without attachment, including attachment to observing self?
I don't know.

I liked when you said, being of it, but not in it..
To me that is experiencing emotion, seeing it, yet not becoming immersed in it, as if it is real or anything other than temporary.
That takes practice.
I watch how my mind wants to label things positive or negative, then I remember that which ever label I choose, the label has potential emotional consequences.
So I just don't.
I see what is, I choose what I prefer in that moment, and I let the experience go.
It's not simple..because the mind is influenced to complicate. But it's not impossible either.

Absolutely, experience emotion..see it, without activating it's hooks that are deeply rooted in past & future, and use that to blow open the doors to what IS..which is now, and create Bliss, intuitively!

Feel good~
CW

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Thanks again all...this is the kind of dialog that helps people expand consciousness. We each allow the other to express opinion and speculate in varying directions, without attachment to being "right".
Perhaps it's the nature of the question...I'm not sure there are any authorities on emotion.:original:

Circlewerk asked:
hehehe...by no means. I wish.
The concept of emotions existing as a spectrum with polar opposite ends just sort of hit me while I was thinking about this thread yesterday at work. I likened it to the "force" in Star Wars...:original:
With a 'dark' side and a 'light' side. Dark side consisting of slower vibrating energies (negative) and Light side opposite.
When I ponder "emotions being life force" (rather than life force being emotion)...I see myself operating or being motivated by whichever emotions I choose. My actions will reflect which end of the spectrum I happen to be 'on' at the time.


Also...on the topic of disconnecting from emotion:
Is this the same as employing the law of allowance?
If one lets go of expectations about outcomes (to just allow whatever to happen) is that the same as disconnecting?

Great thread!
:original:

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Hi Circlework
yeah i know that atatchment is part and parcel of any desire including the desire to be unatatched, it didn't take long to work that one out. I was part of a school that practised Advaita vedanta and we were trying to practise the idea of "not this not this" so any thought or emotion that would arise we would say that to ourselves to show that they were not who we are and see the transient nature of those things. after a while of doing that and not allowing the emotion to be expressed thats when the dullness and apathy started to appear. somewhere in the back of my mind and on a semi unconcious level the were supressed emotions attatched to an aspect of ego that felt denied. Now i try to practise the Eckhardt Tolle method of creating space around things, with that i try to feel into the experience with a kind of thoughtless knowing and usually the appropriate response arises

seeing my emotions and not acting them out i think has come from maturety and disernment, but my ego small buruso can be quite clever where i think i'm being higher minded when in fact hidden in that is the desire not to appear anti social or weak etc. so i act appropriatly in order for people to like me because my inner child is not feeling loved or approved of. anyway i think we are on the same page with how we deal with emotions ie: of it but not in it
I like to live dangerously by expiencing my emotion full on but having a safety button that can hopefully pull me back when needed

in the school we also practised TM and my expieriece caused me to see that the world is in me, i created my world by interpretations of my senses. there was a point where i would "click out" a kind of nothingness as there was no reference point to seperate me from all that is, the thing is though i would only know that once i came back to my rational mind.

I think emotion is a great tool to do inner work with a lot of our emotionally charged reactions come our multipal inner personalities ( vulnerable child, protector, good father etc, ) some of us had traumatic expierences as we were growing up and harbour insecurities that play out unconciously until the day we die, unless we wake up and try to integrate these shadow selves.
one of the ways to do this is to allow the emotion to play out until we come out the other side of it. usually we need a guide and a safe environment to help us through the expierence to become wholly integrated, light and dark it's all in us
cheers
buruso

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

I am deeply pleased with the insight of this thread. I am certainly contemplating all that is written.

Looking forward to diving a little deeper... :thumb_yello:

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

CIRCLEWERK, YOUR STATEMENT BELOW....
THIS THREAD IS SOMETHING I FEEL YOU SHOULD READ. BEYOND THIS, MUCH, MUCH MORE is AWAITING!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=8620

Not long ago, I was talking to my 12 year old daughter about thoughts, emotions..
I asked her if she thought that her thoughts were her own..
Her reply was this..
" I don't know, not always, because sometimes I hear someone talking with an accent, and they're not even female."

Has this happened to you? It has happened to me.
And if left unchecked, those thoughts could become an emotion.
Is there an agenda?
And if so, how productive could emotions be, beyond keeping man stuck in the illusion that psychological time has enabled?

I must say, what I am providing (link) is much more than emotion...

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

The effect on the body from something which is produced by the soul.

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Thank you Sammytray,
I read the thread you linked when it began, and found it interesting. In some ways it confirmed what I had already known.
Both my children are aware that they are not their thoughts.
Due to my own experiences with psychic attack throughout my life, I found it necessary to discuss the movement of mind with my kids on a level that they could comprehend.
I encourage all humans to be the awareness behind the thoughts, emotions, instead of attaching to those movements as if they are real, because most of the time, they are not.
It goes beyond what voice2skull suggests as well.
The new interview with James from Wingmakers touches on it also.
At the end of the day, simple unconditional awareness is where it's at.
Realizing that our infinite truth is beyond the memories, beyond the thoughts, beyond self-consciousness is paramount.

Feel good,
CW

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

FOR ME, emotion means, ""NOT IN BALANCE"".....

the energi of L O V E has absolut nothing to do with emotion


when u are in the universal love, there is no space for emotion.......



B E :original: like this "original" smiley......


......not lauhging, not crying, not dancing, not fighting.......

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

Emotion is the fuel in the engine.
And it can push you all the way, or make you crash into a tree.
Love is a poison word brought into this world to confuse us.
You have never felt love, only emotions.
And when the emotions sing your song you might call it love.
But there is no such thing, there's only songs to sing.

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

Well said.

And I'd add that emotion is the result of the mind trap.
Most are a lower frequency equation of thought, that has gotten stuck on something the mind perceives as real, which keeps the individual living in the past as long as that emotion is employed.

Now, is without lasting emotion or love, it is simply experienced unconditionally.

Love is another word that man has attached himself to, due in part to how it has been marketed.
No one knows for certain what love is or is not. If it is, or is not.
It is the reach to KNOW something, anything, that keeps man in an emotionally stuck place.
Not content to simply, "Sing the songs."
As long as Good and Bad exist in the mind, so will the ideas of love & hate.
Vibration, is only that. And tapping it is enough, for now.
Why does man have such a hard time being in the unknown and comfortable at the same time?
For example, if one experiences a feeling that they label love, and another says no, that is not love, it is nothing. Why does the man who chose to label
the vibration get defensive of this word he calls love?
It is attachment to a man made word, with a man made definition, that has a way of keeping the man struggling in mind.
If one can experience life as an unconditional observer, deeply aware of the functions of mind and how it attaches to situations, etc..perhaps he can then realize freedom, and that his influenced, even manipulated ways of perception have caused him all the grief & misery he has acted out, believed in, encountered & attracted.
And maybe he will see what is actual, and how that is never a constant or fixed thing.

Peace,

CW

Re: what 'is' emotion?
 

So glad you pointed this out, I was eager to connect emotions to the past, but was afraid that it would confuse.

It makes me remember this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xygc71GoW4