The Bible and the Evil God: Lies, deception & brainwashing
 

Some information about the errors, lies, deceit and evil of the Bible, Church and Christianity.

First I would ask you to check out my thread "Revelations from an Ascended Master" at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?p=64709

I am myself a christian, but in what I consider the true form and not the perverted christianity put forth by the Church and the Bible.

The Church and the Bible are here to pervert and keep us in the darkness by giving us false information that is not helping us in our spiritual development, but rather keeps us stuck and on a lower level.

Look at more pure sources of true Christianity such as the Gospel of Thomas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

About lies and deceit in the bible... Oh boy we could get going all day long there! To mention a few examples:

God is a god of Love and Forgiveness. Yet, in the bible, he kills and destroys, puts cities in ruins, because people are not doing things the way he want. What happened to the Free Will there? Oh it's not free will after all, its a dictatorship with God as the dictator deciding how Free our Will can be. And he can contradict himself all the time and kill when he wants, he is still loving and forgiving, doesn't matter that he say he will rip our hearts out and devour them as a bear.

"The LORD is a jealous God, filled with vengeance and wrath. He takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies! "
-Nahum 1:2-8 NLT

The god of the Bible is clearly an evil entity and not the True God. The God of All do NOT speak with or interfere with people and select "prophets" and so on. If he had something to say, he'd let us all know it at once, not by a selected few. That's what all those prophets are who communicate those messages of cruelity and evil - false prophets either telling lies on purpose, or because they are in contact with lower astral demons that like to play trick on people.

The Good never advocates Evil.

The Bible is also FULL of obvious mistakes, errors and direct contradictions. This is because the Bible is NOT the book of God, it's a book of MEN - MANY MEN. It consists of huge amounts of texts by a large group of people from different times. Then it was put together, some things were added, some things were removed, some things wrongly translated, some things forged and some things misunderstood - and you got a mixed up piece of hogwash called "The Bible".

Read the original hebrew texts, at least that gives some better insights than the translated versions called The Bible. Did you know that God is even stated as being several entities in the original texts? It is Elohim which is PLURAL, and it is spoken about several "gods", not One God of All - this can also explain the different characteristics and mindset of "God" in the bible, as it is different entities they're mentioning - as well as a lot of baloney that is made up and fabricated by both those who wrote the texts originally, as well as those who put it together later, and those who translated it to different versions of "The Bible", all with the purpose of gaining control and power of the Followers.

Science and History in the Bible worth checking out:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html

And Contradictions in the Bible:
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...adictions.html

As Jesus himself said in the Gospel of Thomas - considered the closest text to Jesus written by one of his own disciples - "I am the light that is over them all. I am the All; the All has come forth from me, and the All has attained unto me. Cleave a (piece of) wood: I am there. Raise up the stone, an ye shall find me there."

There is no need for a bible, nor a church, God needs not to be worshipped, God is Everywhere and All, and people need to discover and explore their own being rather than blindly believing the words of other men. Only you can punish or reward yourself from what you do with your life, God will not, you have the Key to Heaven and Hell - chose your Gate.


-EA

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Regarding the contradictions in the bible. It was written by numerous people all from different times. Some was written down after being handed down verbally - other parts were written as remembered by those that were there.

Go watch the movie Citizen Kane. Everybody has a different viewpoint and colors their own memories with aspects of their own personalities. Yet the story of Kane's life is the same throughout.

Same goes for the bible. The message is consistent - even with a few contradictions created by the men who saw things a bit differently.

Next, God is loving, forgiving and to be feared. That is not a contradiction. Some day - if you ever have children - you'll understand this yourself.

You detest the Creator who gave you life and a beautiful world to live in. How sad.

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Your a very wise man Edward = HUman
Was wondering what you know about the three supposed graves of Jesus
Peace and Love Brother

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Nonsense poopypants!!!!!If the bible were a false document it wouldn't have survived this long!!!

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I would love to have free reign of the Vatican City and everything that is locked inside and search underneath - about a year should do it. A few forum members can help - no.

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I don't think you would like the company you'd have down there

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Some of you guys gotta come with me otherwise I might be frightened. Don't forget the video camera - and lots of film.:shocked:

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sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Truth vanishes and lies persist. On a very basic level, anyway.

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Make sure and pack your reptile repellent. I hear the catacombs are crawling with them.

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You sure seem to be right, , , , , , ,



, , , , , , , well about this forum anyway. :naughty:

That the bible survived the many many attempts to destroy it is quite remarkable. :thumb_yello: :thumb_yello: :thumb_yello:

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Tuza packs a wooden stake, cross and holy water in bag now.

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as far as an evil god , his name is Satan.He's in the bible tooo!!!1

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This is were you , the Bible promoters, get it all wrong... it did NOT survive!! For crying out loud. It is a perversed book completely different than its orginial texts and messages. Read THROUGH all the links in my first post in this thread. And see for yourself.

Then google some if you want to look deeper, "bible mistranslations", "bible translation errors", "bible forgery", "bible lies" "bible errors", "bible contradictions" and so on.

And ARCORA: YOU still contradict YOURSELF, saying at one point you believe the bible yet agree to its perversions and deceit and lies put there by those in power. I addressed you on this in another thread.

It is almost on the border of hilarious honestly, no offense, but you keep using the Bible as your source of "truth" and "word of god" yet at same time acknowledge that it was written by common people with personal beliefs, agendas and ideologies. Through centuries.

Almost as contradictive as the God you worship. Oh well. I can only feel sorry for your ignorance, as it has cllearly blinded you from the real Truth and Light of the God of All - hopefully one day you will find Him too - I'm sure you will, we all do, all paths eventually leads to the Truth, some faster than others.

Question authority on all levels, question your own beliefs, and look at the roots of where you beliefs come from and what they in fact are based on at its very foundation. Then look at where and how these beliefs were created, changed, altered, forged, manipulated, changed and otherwise perverted through time to suit those whom were controlling the Church, Religion, Bible texts, the Translations of the same - who got most from it, you the people, or they the Priests and Religious leaders?

-EA

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Actually, i've done a lot of bible study.Whenever the bible was translated or copied throughout history it was done painstakingly by monks who did it as their life's work.That my friends, is why the bible code works.Prepares for attacks*:mad3::lightsabre::wall:

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I guess it's all very interesting to debate these fine points, but Edward in his first post said he is a Christian, by his definition. Arcora has stated that he/she is a Christian, if I am not mistaken...

What is a Christian? One who follows Christ.

Sooooo

What is the mandate? Love thy neighbor as thyself? Right?

Christ never said, nor do I think intended for a following to rise up around him and become part of the power structure he so valiantly railed against -I am certain following Christ does not have to include biblical nitpickery and arguing the "right" beliefs about words in a book. If so, you can have my share of it.

Your inflexibility and defensiveness does not reflect well on your hearts understanding of the Word you go to such lengths to protect from criticism. You see, I may not believe a word of the bible 'story', but the message of LOVE and Peace and Forgiveness is integrated into my heart, the dogma is irrelevant. Christianity is not the only path to Christ-consciousness.

Why does Edwards post bother people so much? It's a dis on the church and corruption, not Christ-consciousness.

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Just to get it, most of any studie made where funded by the elite. Because they where all ready in controle. Make believe that it was done by good people.
So it is no point of following any written text in some old book.

Read with your spirit not your logic. You now what is right and what is wrong
What is wrong with the bible hmm let me see ........

It is ok the start a Thermal nuclear war so you can be saved!!!that is what the bible is telling us. THIS is WRONG!!!!

Also it stated in the bible that two witnesses will apear and they are allowed to kill in the name of god. THIS is WRONG!!!

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Hmm, where did Ed say that?
Misquoting indeed. :sneaky2:

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Hi Edward:original:

Which AM are you working with?:original:

I might be wrong, but isn't your position similar to that of Alice Bailey?

Clearly, we all do our own research and end up with our own conclusions, :original: but from my perspective, there was much in the Bailey work that bothered me. I believe Kuthumi is supposed to have said something to the effect that her ego took over and that her work was fraught with misinformation.

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Here a few things I need to cover about Bible corruptions. Yes, the Bible is corrupted. But a majority of it are not. If you disregard the scriptures altogether, you will end up lost and confused. Because after all, they are the words of Yahweh. If you have not read the Bible at all or read only a little bit of it, then this is not even an argument. Allow me to quote a few verses:

Deuteronomy 4:2 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

As you can see here, Yahweh DOES NOT want people to add or take away His words and teachings.


Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

"19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Again, at the very end of the scriptures, He talks about how much He dislikes people who add and/or take away His words. He will see to it that He shall destroy those who do this by taking him/her out of the Book of Life!!

Here I quote from the book of Matthew:

Matthew 4:4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

If you do not read the scriptures, use Yahweh's Spirit to decipher what is truth and what is not, then you will not be able to live properly as a Son or Daughter of Yahweh. You will become lost and confused just like those who are blind (spiritually). Religion has corrupted the Bible, but not all of it. I have done comparisons to the original Dead Sea Scrolls myself. And I can pinpoint directly to what is corrupted and what is not. So Yahweh has stopped it from being fully corrupted. If you study the history of the KJV (Kings James Version), then you know that Sir Francis Bacon totally corrupted the first edition that came out in 1611. However, King James and some people didn't allow this and re-issued the KJV without the occultic symbolism and false messages in the first edition. That is only one example. However, the KJV still have a bunch of bad translations in the verses and false additions to it. But I have studied the Bible long and intensively enough to realize what is Truth and What has been corrupted.

-Phillip

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I say this with the highest of respect, but have you ever considered thinking for yourself and then quoting yourself?

Now, of all times is most definitly not the time for quoting ancient texts. Now is the time for people to start thinking for themselves, and finding their own truths.

Quoting the bible is a one way ticket to an argument simply because your dealing with inteligent people.

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Allie: The one you mention is one of those I work with. There are also some others, which as far I know is not known to the world at least not by the names I know them. One is called Lalo , which I found a strange name but I checked with him several times and he is persistent on that being his name.

Alice Baily I am not familiar with, is she a theosofist? Think I've heard the name, perhaps if you mentioned some books or work she's done I might be aware of some of it. I've studied some theosophical material, mainly some of the work of Charles Leadbeater and Annie Besant and I find most of it pretty accurate in comparison with my own personal experiences and insights. I've been working with ascended masters, or I prefer calling them Teachers really as that is what they are, for at least a decade and half now. Theosophical material is rather new to me, couple years since I got into studying that material.

I'm also member of several different so called secret societies and orders and have for most of it benefitted greatly from that as well, though Im not part of this Theosophical Society. But there are many similarities in practices and teachings as well as ideology within many of these.

One of the ways I personally feel certain about such an entity being good or not is by the way they act and what they tell you and do for you. For example, one who never ask or demand you to do anything, and only brings you goodness, kindness, love and various insights about yourself and existence that can be verified in many cases, and helps you with different problems, and give you the ability to help others (for example I have been healed from ailments, and been given the ability to heal others) - such an entity is as far I'm concerned "good" and a "positive" being. It is highly unusual for any "negative" entities to act in such ways, at least for longer periods of time - it is simply not their nature.

Mischievous and negative entities are usual more aggresive in behavior, colder vibrations, demanding, and not able to follow you up to higher states of being, awareness and spiritual planes of existence where purity and love rules. They also lie and deceive a lot, and this can be easily found out in most cases by first establishing that it is a negative being you are in contact with - then you should break all contact with that beign.

There's also many other ways to distinguish the two forms of beings from eachother, and ways to make sure you get rid of the negative and stay in contact with the positive etc but that's a bit much to get into further details about here and now for me.

Arcora: I might for a moment have mistaken you for ctophil when addressing you above, if so my mistake an apologies.

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WhiteCrow: Good points there, I agree to virtually all of it, except for the manifestation of God part. I do not think the True God above All manifests or take part of anything happening here, he has set in place other systems to make sure things are going the way as designed. Such as divine Laws etc.

Though, other Gods may manifest at times and contact various people to different degree and for various reasons, mostly because they want to communicate a specific message to larger masses and do not have the power to do so directly themselves (Because they are not True God, and have limitations to what they can do).

All religions being Right and Wrong at the same time I can also agree to. But with that said, there is to me little doubt several religions were put in place to mislead people and direct them away from true spiritual development, so the power that be that organized these religions could keep their own power and control over their followers.

Blessings,
-EA

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Hi EdwardI recognise the names you mention - Leadbeater and Besant - and have read some of their works. Alice Bailey was from that same source, although I think some of the theosophists parted company due to a disagreement in how the society should be run.

Alice wrote some 35 books, around 30 of which are said to be dictations from Djwahl Kuhl. She is said to have been the successor to Blavatsky, but there are some glaring differences between them. I would imagine if you google Bailey, you'll find more information than you could hope to get through as she is deemed to be the person who started the whole 'New Age' thing off. She's also as famous as Blavatsky.

I really wanted to like Bailey, but actually couldn't tell which side of the fence she was on. She appeared to speak with great wisdom out of one side of her mouth, and then spout what I can only describe as wildly inaccurate, racist comments out of the other. I have read all the explanations for this given by those who seek to protect her name (and DK's I'd imagine) but regardless, anyone with a reasonable understanding of history and an astute brain could run a tank through both Alice's words and the subsequent explanations for them. There were other things that I couldn't get past with Alice (DK?)

When I started down my own particular path (which arose due to some pretty startling psychic experiences) I felt pulled towards the AM's. However, I linked up with a number of people who either have internet sites or have written books, but who all knew each other.

It's a long story but it became impossible to know the truth. I know that intuitively, the feeling I had was always one of unease and akin to 'deception'. I do not believe the people I met were intentionally fraudulent in any shape or form - I just became uneasy with who or what they were channelling. Something just wasn't right.

Because I was discovering Bailey at around this time, I was bewildered by it all. Would an enlightened being (DK) really channel such unfortunate, racist comments? Or was it Bailey's mind poking through? I had similar thoughts about Blavatsky at times.

Bailey takes the same view of God that you outlined in your post - which is why I thought you might be familiear with her work:original:

As mentioned, I did read something which is supposed to have come from Kuthumi, denoucing come of Bailey's work but a) it was not clear which aspects he meant and b) it came from the Summit Lighthouse which is now denounced by some.

Anyway - I've waffled on, haven't I?:original:

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How can any person in their right mind argue for the validity of the bible by quoting from it? Faith? Come on! I just feel like sharing one of my major pet peeves. Whenever i try to point out the many flaws in the bible, this is a very common response - "Have you ever heard of faith?" "You have to have faith" - I NEED TO HAVE BLIND OBEDIENCE BASED ON WHAT MY FAMILY WAS TOLD TO BELIEVE FOR GENERATIONS!? Well, thats what is sounds like to me. anyone else?

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I'll join ya..:thumb_yello:

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Allie: Thanks for that lengthy post and explanation =)

I will have to check out some of the work of Alice Bailey as I can not really comment on her at all.

Mostly I work with non-physical beings myself and honestly I read very little these days as I get more insights from myself and inner journeys than from any book.

Not sure what the racism is about, though I have heard about it, when it comes to Blavatsky as well. I've not studied theosophy in depth, mostly just read some of the material of the two authors I mentioned, and those two I'm quite fond of. However there is some material that is rather outdated and per my own experiences different than what they say. The problem, often, is that authors on these subjects tend to speak on behalf of Truth itself, as if they know The Answer - something I am very careful about doing myself. I can tell how things are, according to my own experience, but I will not say that this is the Truth, as I have realized there are in facts many "truths" and ways to experience reality, so it is a more fluid thing than a stable one, and changes constantly. Although there is of course what seem to be a more stable core of truth at deeper levels.

My own communication with the Masters are of great value and have taught me a lot, actually really profound things, and I keep realizing more and seeing more of our existence.

The deeper I dig the more complex it gets, the more answers I find the more questions arise =)

Love be with you all,
-EA

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alexsander says
My own communication with the Masters are of great value and have taught me a lot, actually really profound things, and I keep realizing more and seeing more of our existence.


Who are these masters?
What profound things?
What do you see of our existence?

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I would too, but I do understand the old languages - Greek, hebrew (sounds like beer), sumarian, chinese, etc - but if you get there - please share

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We could probably have an interesting conversation about that. It'd be easy for me to say I disagree with that, only I've noticed that often when I have these conversations, I eventually come to realize that we're saying almost the same thing from different perspectives, even though it may not sound that way at the beginning. So until we have that conversation I will simply choose to respect your opinion as I do my own.


If you'd said several denominations or several churches instead of several religions, you'd have my total agreement. And I'm curious what you mean when you use the term "put in place." Who "puts" are religion in place? By what mechanism is this achieved?

Good posts, good thread. Makes my wheels turn.

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meekforce: I have another thread touching upon some of those things, look for "Revelations from a Master".

Your questions are deep and need more time for me to properly respond, for now I will have to wait with that as it is late here and time for journeys into dreamland =)

Whitecrow: If you want to elaborate, feel free to do so, when it comes to your first quote.

For the second one, a religion can be put in place from everything to a larger group that have planned to do so either for their own agenda, or because they actually believe it, but also by private people. I could put in place a religion of my own if I really wanted, and for many different purposes.

The way it is achieved is simple enough - get enough gullible persons and present them with some uncommono events, or even stories of such events, and you're good on your way already.

Will have to expand further on this tomorrow or so if that is requested.

Night for now, and blessings.
-EA

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This thread very much establishies what Dr. Deagle was taling about in his interview. Divorce yourself from the middle man! You are conected part of consciousness, but feel largley becasue of the left brain that you are disconneted.

But the one thing that I have learned is to not waste time on differences. If we are all spirtual people then when should allow each of us to grow at our own pace.

Certainly, I do find it strange to find hard core bible believers on this forum. If you listen to Svali on any numerous other whistle blowers and articles on Camelot and elswhere it is fairly obvious that the Christain Church and specifically the Vatican are a very corrupt group and that is putting in mildly. Constantine made sure that the bible carried with it the political agenda of the Roman Empire and was re-edited as a tool to control the masses.

That being said, it is very difficult if not impossible to overcome a persons conditioning and denial and in my opinoion a complete waste of time. The minute that you try to convince anyone of anything a wall of cognitive dissonance comes down and they can't even hear what you saying. They are just trying to think of the next thing they are going to say in thier argument. And believe me I have tried.

That's why we must be careful what we learn, because after we learn it, we act as if we were the ones who came up with it and then when a better idea comes along we reject it, because we feel we didn't come up with it ourselves.

Just as with Freudian psychology, the patient has to come to the answers on his own otherwise he will reject them.

In other words beings have to grow at thier own pace and they will get there with or without our help eventually...Tao

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taomation, good post.
Ed thanks for these threads. It's good to find a like mind.
I don't have any channeling contacts but I recognise truth to most everything you've put forward.

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Taomation.

Although I understand the rationale behind your thoughts in respect of differences, I think it's how we all approach them:original: For my part, I love to hear the perspectives of others - which are often very different - they make me think, often make me review my own perspectives and inevitably, I find I can learn/grow from them. Even if it doesn't alter my view, I might find a lesson arises from my own reactions. What I think occasionally goes wrong is that others become scathing or perdantic if your views don't match theirs, and that's where the real 'differences' begin to show. Healthy debate - such as appears to be present on this thread - is ...well,....healthy:original:

Edward

I was interested to read both Blavatsky and Bailey's view of God. Or rather, their rampant dismissal:original: What intrigued me was the life each had led prior to their becoming theosophists. Blavatsky had been very religious - in the conventional, Russian Orthodox fashion, but turned full circle following the death of a child, widely believed to be her own (although she wouldn't admit it). She failed to understand how a loving God could deal her such a hand. Similarly, Bailey had been raised in a somewhat orthodox Christian background -marrying into it too -and later reacted to it (or her one-time husband:original:) I find both conversions telling and wonder if their personal experiences coloured their later writing. In times of trouble some people 'find' faith, others lose it. The AM's who worked with both apparently found them 'trying':original:

I don't read many books on the AM's any more. But, I don't regret reading Bailey - if only because it made me think. The number of people who, when reading the racist bits, which truly were appalling, continued to find excuses for Bailey or ways to 'interpret' and 'understand' what she'd said was interesting. Even though what she'd written appeared pretty unenlightened, the blind loyalty was nevertheless apparent. It made me think about how our need for a leader or a teacher can have its darker side.

I was also pleased to have read Bailey just to understand how she is playing out today. As the instigator of the 'New Age', her views are slipping into the UN and apparently into schools in America. Not being American, I don't know how true that is, though:original: It's actually rather difficult to know which agenda Mrs Bailey's work is supporting, but some believe it isn't particularly healthy. Whether you take that view or not depends on your perspective of race and religion.


Before I leave the topic of the AM's, I wondered what your thoughts are on Benjamin Creme and his assertation that Maitreya is already here and has addressed many crowds in many nations - oh, and certain UN delegates, too?

I don't have too many thoughts with respect to the Bible. Although I am reasonably informed, I haven't made what might be honestly called a scholarly study:original:. The UK takes a rather quiet, reserved approach to religion. Like politics and money, it's an 'off the agenda' topic, generally considered too personal a question to ask of another:original: When Tony Blair mentioned God we were mostly appalled! We don't like our politics and religion mixing:original: Historically, it's led to mindless bloodshed and strife.

I believe that the ancient Jewish scholars did not take the Bible at face value, but interpreted it into what we now know as the Talmud. Their interpretations could be so focused that it wasn't unknown for them to get hung up for ages on the meaning of a single word. The Talmud, however, remains in the same form today - i.e. under an interpretation that is centuries old. It would be very good if today's scholars undertook the task again:original:

I knew a very cool rabbi who gave me some interesting insights into the non-literal interpretations of the bible - such as the book of Ruth, which he said was not to be taken literally as it had been written simply to encourage converts to Judaism:original:

Thanks for the open-minded thread, Edward:original:

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Would that be Obamaitreya? :naughty:

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Now I shall do something I seldom do... get out on thin ice and put out a information I have recived .... I have not find anything that this information actualy is true , and it can have another meaning....

It is a great deciever coming or originating from the Benelux-countries...
(Belgique, Nederland and Luxemburg)..... and it was carefully chosen, as they want us to subconciuosly think of good and light....

I do not know for sure what they meant, if this great decivier is antichrist...
But if it is I do think of EU and its headquarter in bryssel....

But as I said, this is information I have been given 1998 under strange circumstances....and I have not been given any more clues.... so I have not get any chanse to confirm it for myself....

I am a da*n stubborn woman that need a lot of clues until I take it for my truth, or have a strong and convincing experience, preferably through my physical eyes....:roll1:

Re: The Bible and the Evil God: Lies, deception & brainwashing
 

Have to be a bit brief with this post, but regarding Maitreya I think there are several such master teachers out there already - and even here as well within these forums and of people whom have been interviewed by Bill and Kerry - these teachers are here for us, to assist and serve and guide us towards our inner self and true being, to make us realize our own amazing abilities and powers. They work independently around the world, speaking for different groups of people, in different ways but yet delivering the same core of the real message.

Of course there are deceivers, the quite opposite beings, out there as well, firmly established in every part of society, and perhaps even more in the New Age scene and among people like ourselves. Finding your true inner guide and connection with the Divine is the most important step towards self-realization than what any Master can tell you - as usual question what you are being told by others and never take anything as a fact, blindly believing is the worst we can do.

May your inner guide be with you all,
-EA

Re: The Bible and the Evil God: Lies, deception & brainwashing
 

This is so much an area of belief and faith that I don't even know if it's really apropos for this forum. I very much resonate with the idea of Manifestations even though what constitutes one, and who qualified and who didn't are topics that could waste decades if we let that happen. If we are agreed that there has been, and can continue to be interaction between people and Larger Principals, that's probably good enough for us to proceed in friendship.


The thing is, I've imagined this scenario too, any number of times, and I don't see it working out that way. This is why I made my original comment, that if you'd said churches or denoms... People that attempt to start religions rarely succeed in starting anything more than a cult. Jonestown, Heaven's Gate and David Koresh come to mind. None of these were religions in the true sense.

The reason I couldn't start a religion is that I have no new revelation concerning the relationship between God and man. I think all the information that's needed is already out there. I could to be sure, repackage some of that information into some shiny new model and proclaim myself a prophet, but several things would result. First, most everyone would immediately see that I was a fraud. Second, even more people wouldn't care whether I was or not. And third, the followers I'd gather around me would be weak and gullible fools, the very sort of person I prefer not to be associated with. But that's me.

Founders of great religions have not so much chosen as had it thrust upon them. If it was possible to simply go out and start a religion, the world would be filled with religions that glorify wealth. There are churches and ministers that glorify wealth, but I do not know of a major religious tradition that teaches this.