The demise of the ATS forums
 

I have been told today that my show's official forum is being evicted by ATS (www.abovetopsecret.com). You canb see the U2U they sent me on my blog at http://blog.myspace.com/rosshemsworth

In recent months, ATS (once a great forum) has been in my opinion, over-moderated and over-policed and no longer do I feel, are you allowed to post the truth if it doesn't fit in with the Director's beliefs.

Of late we have seen them being extremely over-protective of former pop icon Robbie Williams after he joinedthem on an investigation at Gilliland Ranch. Wll guess what? Since their big publicity campaign they appear to have a host of new adverts on the site and have struck a deal with Hllywood's biggest agents The "William Morris Agency"!

When I joined ATS I felt it was an open forum where conspiracies, UFO's, crop circles and other phenomena cold be openly discussed. Unfortunately those days seem to have gone.

This is not just me whinging because I am being evicted from the forum, I have had private messages from others who have also had their posting priveleges taken a way.

So much for free speech huh?

Ross

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I suppose that's how things work. A site gets a good reputation and become's popular. That then draws attention, so it gets infiltrated and used...

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Yes I guess so. Like I always say, everyone has their price!

Shame though it had attracted heavy traffic and was a very good site.

Ross

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And how the new members are bullied when they can't upload a video or picture, it truly is offensive!

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I started a thread on there today about "over moderation on ATS" and guess what? I am now banned from posting!

I have today asked that my show's official forum now be removed from ATS within 12 hours, I want no further association with them after this.

Ross

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ATS is very strange.

OMF and this PA are solid.

never signed up for ats though.. definitely never will. lol

sorry you got banned bro, for the best though.
Later

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Yes, OMF is fantastic. They are on the cutting edge of ufology & exopolotics. A great place!

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OMF?? Where is that?

Ross

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Open Minds Forum. (OMF) http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/

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yeah Ross, check it out bro.

I dont think youll be to disappointed.

;)

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Thanks I will do as soon as I get off air. I'm doing my "Feel Good Friday Show" on Glastonbury Radio at the moment lol!

Ross

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I believe ATS is monitored or controlled by CIA OR M I 6 , there are too many top secret infos NWO doesn't want you to know :lightsabre:

what kind of show is it?

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never wasted a minute at ats and never will

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Yes I have heard various tales of infiltration and disinformation at ATS but hadn't believed them before!

As for my TV and radio show, each week we discuss everything from comspiracies to UFO's, paranormal to crop circles etc and always form a positive viewpoint - we don't have sceptics ripping people apart!

You can find out more at http://www.nowthatsweird.co.uk

There is also a discussion for the TV show at the TV station's website which is http://www.edgemediatv.com/forum

Ross

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I went on there as 'anonymous' and posted a couple of articles and viewpoints that were very relevant to the subject material being discussed-not one was authorised!!That was enough for me-i wasn't intersted with the site anyway from the viewing i did on the postings-highly censored-irony in the manifest methinks.

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what do you mean by your ' shows offcial forum' ?

are you just a normal poster or do you have a 'show '

ATS is not a nice site, there are some really bad energies there, take it as a blessing that you have been banned :original:

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Yes I am a "normal poster" but I am also presenter of a weekly radio and TV show trying to get the message out that there is more going on out there than the mainstream media will tell, us about.

Ross

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Hi izz
Your right and loads of snobbery! unless your, "one of the boy's" they just talk you down.

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Since their "golden goose" Robbie Williams joined the forum, notice how they seem to have masses of new advertisers and of course this new deal with the William Morris Agency! It's no wonder they are protecting him so well from anyone trying to chat to him lol!

The final straw for me though was the general over-moderation and heavy policing of people's posts of late. I am getting loads of messages from members who are coming to the same conclusions about ATS, some of whom have even had their posts deleted supporting me this morning!

Ah well, onwards and upwards the truth IS out there (somewhere!)

Ross

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Yeah and don't worry, this whole thread will get back to them for sure, maybe then they will clean up their act!

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LMAO - obviously the moderators are not communicating too well on ATS, I've just been served with a "posting ban" by one of the Directors called "Sceptic Overlord" who was obviously unaware I had already been banned from posting by another moderator earlier today!

Cowboys lol!

Ross

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Someone has just sent me a very interesting thread about ATS via my blog page...

http://www. realityuncovered. net/forum/viewtopic. php?f=47&t=1442

It makes very interesting reading!

Ross

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I think we just need to be thankful to Bill and Kerry for starting this wonderful community. It has honestly been a blessing!
ATS does kinda give a little bit of a bad vibe.

I also do agree about OMF, Its a great board. i just wish I had spent more time there. I had no idea they had that much discussion about Project Camelot.

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Yes and I had a lovely e-mail welcoming me to the Open Minds Forum as many of them on there know me and are also involved with Exopolitics of which I am an advisory board member.

I am also UK Director of International UFO Congress which takes place in Laughlin each year, a great annual event!

Ross

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This is the exact reason why the Billy Meier case could be real, the people at ATS have contaminated that case so badly it make anyone doubt it ever took place.

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wish you luck on your purposes.

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hi ross i have not posted at ats since they flamed the hell out of dan tanna whos threads i loved glad i found this place though lot more friendlier

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Hah, what a synchronicity...

I have been backing off of ATS a bit myself as yes the ego is outrageous, and discussion just doesn't seem to happen there anymore. New people are bullied as well as those who don't suck up to certain "experts" should they present evidence contrary to the their views...as demonstrated by My friend/Ufologist from France on a particular case involving a certain "UFO" picture. It's a jolly thread jam packed with: humor! intrigue! & and plenty of close mindedness by the "experts". Doing exactly what they whine and complain that the main media does to them, rules by decree despite apparent evidence of an "anomaly". Here's the original thread for those of you interested in seeing an interesting pic and some fairly decent analysis (and lay observations) done by quiet a few different people.

Original Photo Surprise Thread on ATS

Which all of a sudden got resurrected out of no where yesterday too I might add...

So everyone eventually says "take the pic to Jeff (Ritzman)!" the resident photographer/expert. He says "it's a bird" by decree even though we present evidence that is completely not consistent with it being a cute little tweet-tweet. Like the shutter speed being able to stop a humming bird's wings in flight but still this thing was "blurred". It has a cone shaped "shadow" or "blur" around it that is not consistent with flapping wings, and tends to only show up in the Cyan & Magenta color channels.

Photo Surprise 2 Thread! More ATS Madness!

So apparently all the stress wasn't good for Jeff and his book writting so he went on the age-old "I'm leaving" tiraid. I keep telling people, just don't say anything and stop posting awhile and save yourself the drama but no....

JRitzman's Departure thread at Drama-tastic ATS!

I have avenged you John Lear! ;) jk That was in response to John's last interview with PC. I don't think they're dis-info agents, I just think they're way too into themselves...

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No kidding they took Billy Meier and just tore that story to shreds. They did it so effectively that any new person researching that case would automatically dismiss it.

I say stay the heck away from ats!

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The more stories I am hearing from ex and current ATS members today, the more I am sure that what has happened in the past few hours has been for the best. And hey - I am making some new friends too!

Every cloud has a silver lining after all!

Ross

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No don't ever post or read stuff on ATS forum. It's such a bad forum.
They control everything and they are for the Secrecy of the governement concerning the Extraterrestrials and they have a bunch of skeptics who work for the Government.

It's not a good forum.

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What makes you say that Bill? I can't say I know much about the ATS gang's history. I went there looking for other people to talk to about this stuff, and yeah, they tended to get in the way with their "expertise" oddly enough. But I can't say I know much about the admins and mods. It seems like there are some cool mods on there who don't take themselves too terribly serious which is nice. But yeah, the ones with the most influence seem to bring the most resistance.

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I never joined ATS but was a reader for many years. One thing I noticed, especially over the past year, was the quality of posts, and how they went downhill. It used to be there were good discussions on "esoteric" topics, then it seemed to be nothing but politics and candidate bashing. Seemed like lots of new people were joining, the moderation was getting worse-so many reminders in each thread about one line posts, give me a break! It also seemed like there were more "uneducated" people posting gibberish and looking to provoke people into flamewars. I checked out the site the other day and couldn't tell if I was looking at a pop news site or a site devoted to mysteries...well, well, at least there are some other places to explore.

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"golden goose" that made me laugh
visited ATS once and couldnt see past the adverts

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Because I remember opening a discussion on the Roswell autopsy video and they all jumped on me saying that it is a fake.

We have great evidence that the video is genuine because Robert Dean confirmed it.
Apparently, the Edgar Mitchell confirmed it as well lately.

And on many occasions everytime I talk about things that have proofs behind them, that forum shows it skepticity on the subject of Extraterrestrials.
Most people there are fast to dismiss any proof and even if you give them proof they won't believe you.

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Yeah that's pretty much what happened to me too in the threads I posted. There's evidence of odd-doings-a'-transpirin' but no, they insist on their conclusion of course. As soon as you challenge their opinions you get to hear about how they wrote the books, and worked on the movies, etc so they don't have time to mess with a blurry "bird" picture, yet they'll keep necro posting in the thread about their assessment everyone time someone disagrees with their "expert" opinion. Heh it was funny I was censored when I replied to the "waste our time" comment with:

If you have got pics of the Zetan Greys BBQ'ing with US Airforce at Edwards AFB then by all means share or maybe try lending some constructive feedback on the case for a change.

I think that angered them because then even more mods (and Springer himself) show up and we get lectured at about "coming in someone's house" and telling them what's-what. That point was reiterated to me today in a necro posting bonanza to which I replied with a one finger salute ;)

I'm not sure how many the staff/mods @ ATS enjoy me all that much there :naughty:

I don't break the rules there, but I do try to bend them when it annoys the bullies ;)

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I had a recent run-in at ATS where two newly-registered members started a thread as sock-puppets waffling about hissing reptilians and David Icke, and making a mockery of the subject. I stepped in and basically said this load of poppycock has to stop... and guess what... a moderator stepped in and gave me a warning for an "off-topic post"!

Here I am, attempting to preserve the dignity of the ATS forums and we have moderators actively encouraging ignorant trolling. I am flabbergasted!

Ross, I feel for you man. You're not the only one to feel put out by the going-ons there.

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There are some interesting comments been added to my blog overnight from other ATS and ex ATS members and some of them make VERY interesting reading! (http://blog.myspace.com/rosshemsworth)

The thread that they have put up for "damage limitation" contains the expected untruths and variations form the e-mail that was sent to me, but it's top of the news page with 66 flags so it's obviously caused great interest!

Yes it is true they have put commerciality above the treatment of their members but i guess everyone has a right to make a living, but at what expense?

Ross

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This is the top story over there at the moment!
DIGG ATS

for original
content
more infoEveryone has their price, don't they ATS?

Before you guys remove this thread, as this is a conspiracy forum, can this not be censored?

A respected member of the ATS community Nomadrush is now on the road to being kicked off ATS due to so-called "brand exclusivity with an international entertainment production company"

So this is what ATS has finally become, the "three amigos" have finally sold their soul?

I'm sure Robbie William's involvement doesn't have a thing to do with this /sarcasm

I'll keep this short because freedom of speech obviously doesn't include critisism about ATS in any way shape or form.

This reminds me of John Lear's banning.

Please STAR and FLAG

Yuo can find it here, ATS

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THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN THE THREAD!
Please raise your issues and concerns in the following thread:
ATS issues

Thank you.

Thread closed.