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QUESTINY 09-15-2008 04:49 PM

Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today

First shot for $20 billion was at 0940; second just happened for $50 billion at 1150-this has to be related to AIG. Long end of the bonds selling off. Someone needs cash and bad.

This is getting scary now.

Forgot this:

http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/temp.cfm

Zarathustra 09-15-2008 04:56 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
When you are forced to print fiat currency to support a market, that market is insolvent.

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 05:01 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Hey Z, do you know about the Plunge Protection Team started by Reagen? It is also know as the Presidents Working Group?

Zarathustra 09-15-2008 05:04 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Q,

Yes, I'm familiar with it. The best analysis of how they manipulate the markets that I've heard is from Bob Chapman, www.theinternationalforecaster.com.

What's your take?

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
I'm being nice---------

Zarathustra 09-15-2008 05:13 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopgear (Post 13016)
Please!!!!! Help me to understand what you know about MONEY!!!!!
Not "cut and paste" internet info!!
Tell me in detail about why this is "Scary"!!!
and tell me down to the penny why it effects you.......

I'm being nice-- -------

Troop,

I'm going to violate your request to not cut and paste, because Bob Chapman's latest article describes the direness of the current situation as best and it can be done.


Read this, then respond with any questions and I'll try my best to answer
http://www.theinternationalforecaste...d_Moral_Hazard

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:23 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
:lightsabre:

Zarathustra 09-15-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
T,

There's a difference between spreading doom and gloom and telling the truth about a bad situation. Did you read the Chapman article?

empathy 09-15-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopgear (Post 13036)
Zarathustra, that wasn't directed to you.... just want to know why "QUESTINY"
is spreading doom and gloom..... in every thread..... I want to know why
she thinks its "Scary"!!!.... There is nothing new here on info......
That's a normal response by the fed. but there is more to it...... I just want to
know if she really know anything or all she know is "Cut and paste"!!!! :lightsabre:

? Are you trying to infer that she is not welcome to post whatever she wants?

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:31 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Yep!!! there nothing new here..... this info, has been around.... That's not even half of it...
Please tell me your not a front for her???

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:33 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
DUDE! catch up or get out!!! can you read!!!!!! Empathy

empathy 09-15-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopgear (Post 13051)
DUDE! catch up or get out!!! can you read!!!!!! Empathy

DUDE?

I can already see where your coming from.

Look, everybody is frustrated. Don't be so inconsiderate as to assume that everyone here is only interested in debunking each others own reality on the situation.

Cut&paste-ing articles isn't really doom and gloom to me.

Furthermore, if you actually read Questiny's posts. You would know she is only interested in the truth. Whatever it is, under whatever light it's shown.

Stop bashing.

Love/Light 13 09-15-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
empathy-

I agree 100%. Questiny has provided more useful info than almost anyone on this forum. On a day where the fourth largest investment banking firm has declared bankruptcy, coupled with the struggles of AIG and WaMu, we should all be concerned. No one should panic, just understand the issues and be prepared for the tough times ahead. Live in love and your reality will remain on the positive path!

may wisdom guide compassion..... "out of many, we are one"

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarathustra (Post 13011)
Q,
The best analysis of how they manipulate the markets that I've heard is from Bob Chapman, www.theinternationalforecaster.com.

What's your take?

Me too.

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:49 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Ok Then, back to square one.......
I'll make it simple, "QUESTINY" choose to express her opinion to me and has yet
to account for her stupidity.. So I'm just calling her out.....

Best Regards

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
:mfr_omg: Plant a tree!!

empathy 09-15-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopgear (Post 13074)
Ok Then, back to square one.......
I'll make it simple, "QUESTINY" choose to express her opinion to me and has yet
to account for her stupidity.. So I'm just calling her out.....

Best Regards

Stupidity? My my you have a way with words.

And maybe you didn't hear me...

WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CALLING EACH OTHER OUT!!!

If you want a fight go punch a mirror.

Zarathustra 09-15-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Troop,

Here's my advice for you, sell everything you own for dollars, and put all of that money in a Wamu account.

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:56 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Ok Princess ,

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
troopgear. I welcome your thoughts and opinions. If you feel I am spreading doom and gloom than you are welcome to tell me where I am wrong just like I told you there in no difference between a 1 oz gold bar and a 1 oz gold coin. By making statements that I don't know what I'm talking about when I mention paper money in the forex, please show me where my understanding of a fiat currency is lacking. We have already established that Chapman's work is generally accepted among us in this thread.

troopgear 09-15-2008 05:59 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
This is why the sheep will die!!!!!!

visual co-creator 09-15-2008 05:59 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
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kayak 09-15-2008 06:00 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
CHILDREN! You're allowing yourselves / egos to get in the way of Project Avalon's purposes!
Practice the Law of Allowance. Practice the Heart Virtues (See the Wingmakers material).

I am Kayak.

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 06:01 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
troopgear. You can do better than that. Explain your position instead of calling me names. I am sorry you feel there is a difference between a 1 oz gold coin and a 1 oz gold bar. Please explain where my thinking is wrong too. Thank you in advance for your consideration in this matter.

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Oh now we are back to that...
Tell me why the Plunge Protection Team started "QUESTINY"

Please let "QUESTINY" talk!!!

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
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QUESTINY 09-15-2008 06:05 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kayak (Post 13089)
CHILDREN! You're allowing yourselves / egos to get in the way of Project Avalon's purposes!
Practice the Law of Allowance. Practice the Heart Virtues (See the Wingmakers material).

I am Kayak.

No ego here. I am trying to understand where troopgear is coming from and I am really looking forward to him telling me where I am lacking so that I can either clarify or fix my thinking. This is the purpose of this post. I have no control over his charged emotions but I am interested in his views. He is very passionate about his position.

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:05 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Tell you what, explain my last question and I will tell you about gold

franciejones 09-15-2008 06:08 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
I hope everyone here remembers that being in a state of fear is not productive for the continuation of life.

It is my opinion that "fear" only helps "the bad guys" achieve whatever it is that they are aiming for.

We can ALL live just fine without money, cars, houses, toilets...all of that. Be calm, feed the soul, smile at everyone you see and you will feel such peace that it will be communicated to those around you and any problems that come along will be easily dealt with.

At least that is how I think these problems can be better handled.

Calm thoughts and feelings to everyone-Francie Jones

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:08 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Please, "no cut and paste"

Thank-you

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:11 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Are you still there "QUESTINY"

empathy 09-15-2008 06:12 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Gosh troop, you know. If you didn't come across as such a egoist. You might actually be heard. But most of us here won't look past the name calling.
If you haven't already guessed. Whatever argument your trying to win, has no opposition. And whatever it is your trying to say, we don't understand.

All I hear is "Listen to me, I am obviously smarter than you, so much so that I don't need to explain myself. Im american and am always correct. I will just respond in two or three lines, and call you names to put you in your place."

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Have I posted something that explains the definition of Money that you don't agree with? I don't remember posting anything that gave a defination of this. In addition, to your other derailing question, you will notice the post about the Plunge Protection Team was addressed to Zarathustra. I ask you again, what is the difference between a 1 oz gold coin and a 1 oz gold bar?

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 06:15 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
If you have some insights on who started the PPT then please post and share your insights.

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:16 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Why YES I am, very good,

can you sit and roll also.....

QUESTINY 09-15-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Sure. I can sit and roll, can't most everyone.

troopgear 09-15-2008 06:20 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Too bad you all could have learned something new today!!!

Once again "QUESTINY" all you did was defer the question....

You go buy as many coins as you want.... Sucker born every min. in here!!!


That wasn't for you "QUESTINY"

empathy 09-15-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troopgear (Post 13134)
Too bad you all could have learned something new today!!!

Once again "QUESTINY" all you did was defer the question....

You go buy as many coin you want.... Sucker born every min. in here!!!

Now I have to come to the conclusion that you are either one of two things.

Totally useless in the way of bringing information to people for the good of all.
But deep down have an agenda that strives to connect people...

Or Totally useless in the way of bringing information to people for the good of all.
And deep down have an agenda that is self serving and full of fear.


If you have something useful to bring to this thread, we are all looking at you right now. Here is your chance.

Carol 09-15-2008 06:25 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
It would be helpful if this thread were redirected away from personalities back to the seriousness of the initial issue presented and the steps, if there are any, on how an individual can protect oneself.

My son is one of the recent ex directors of the Swiss Bank in London. I think I'll give him a call and see what his take is on all of this. He did say several months back to get out of the market, get out of debt and keep cash on hand in a safe place.

Okay, just spoke with him and here is his take on the current financial situation.

Cash is good short term as this continues to unravel, safety is the key. Longer-term, go with exchange traded funds (ETF) with low expense rations to give to access the S&P 500. SPDRs are a specific type of ETF. Currently, it's difficult to predict the bottom... wait a little while. AIG is close to going bust as well; many companies will have losses regarding this bankruptcy. The next six months will be a rough ride, not until next spring would likely be a good time to re-invest. For some folks (in england) it would be best to just pay off their mortgage because interest is not tax deductible there. Not so in the US. One also has to look at how much liquidity one needs.

Putting money into any sort of retirement type plans is good. Even within some sort of IRA one can usually buy the SP 500 ETF, which is very liquid, relatively cheap to trade, low commissions, and gives exposure to a highly diversified index.

Long term - one wants to be in the equity market... think 20 years or more as this will also minimizes ones expense ratio and builds equity.

Gold is now in the $700 range and may be a good investment but is very difficult to predict short-term investment prices and value.

Cash is good. Particularly for the next 6 months as the equity market can still go down quite a bit more. Dollar has rallied against the Euro. The Euro is now predicted to go down.

SunRa 09-15-2008 06:25 PM

Re: Federal Reserve adds $70 BILLION in Liquidity to the Markets Today
 
if i were posting in this thread
i would ask myself

are my motives and intentions for posting herein in alignment with the project avalon mission?

Project Avalon mission:
*** To provide resources and information in support of the GROUND CREW.


support is intended to be a positive action


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