Dr. Steven M. Greer
 

Thought I would start a discussion on Dr. Greer. His book Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge:thumb_yello: is excellent! Has anyone read this yet? He presents some amazing information regarding Et's, the government/ cooperate cover-ups, spirituality and meditation.

Peace and Love,
Joaq.

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I haven't read it yet, but I have seen the 2h video of The Disclosure Project. This was an important event, with more journalists and reporters together than ever. The publicity generated came to a stop with 9-11. Otherwise Larry King & C° would have started earlier with their UFO programs. Now we or 7 years behind you could say. Nevertheless, better late than never? Before, people laughed at you when you talked about UFO's, now it's changing.

What is the most important revelation you found in his book?

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Thanks for starting this thread.

That book is amazing. I haven't read it, but I've studied many reviews and other discussions about it. And I have listened to Dr Steven M. Greer on many radio stations since 2001, telling a lot of the information that is in the book.

I saw the National Press conference live in 2001.

And was studying and supporting CSETI before they got The Disclosure Project going.

It's all been awesome.

But many people on Earth would rather take the blue pill.
(blissful ignorance)

It's a shame they don't know how important it all is.
They might find out in future in the spirit realm,
and kick themselves for not caring more.
(or just be in bliss) :mfr_lol:

Anyway, it is just great to meet so many good folks here in this Project Avalon forum. keep up the good work!



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For me, without a doubt, was the spiritual and meditation information. Attitude about this stuff is changing, just wish it would accelerate.

Peace and Love, Joaq.

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Wow! I discovered Dr. Greer about 1 1/2 years ago. Totally enjoy hearing him talk. :original: Have you gone to any of his trainings?
peace and Love, joaq.

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"...spiritual and meditation information..."

This is a surprise to me. I tought Dr. Steven M. Greer was a cool, rational scientist. My mistake.

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He is very cool and very rational. Obviously, I recommend reading his book. Check it out, tell me what you think about it. I assure you, you will not be wasting your time. We can compare notes.:)

Peace and Love,
Joaq.

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can you elaborate please?
Are you stating you was able to contact ET using this methods?

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Fantastic! I would love to hear more. What was you experience like?

Peace and Love,
joaq.

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the entire book is great, but one thing that interested me that most people are probably not aware of is that apparently not all of the rockefeller's have the same mindset. dr greer had multiple meetings with the more philosophical rockefeller (i don't have the book infront of me so i can't double check. i don't want to throw out the wrong name but laurence comes to mind). for those of you who haven't read the book, dr greer is saying he had multiple meetings with this rockefeller and was asking for finincial help. unfortunately, rockefeller wanted to help but couldn't because he felt his family would never allow it. it was interesting to me to find out that there's actually those within the rockefeller family who don't like what is happening but apparently feel powerless against their own family

i also liked the part when dr greer is talking to larry king and larry tells him that all journalistic integrity went out the window long ago. we all already knew that but atleast there's some acknowledgement of this fact from some of the biggest names in the media. it's tough for critics to argue against the fact that the media has become extremely corrupt when larry king himself admits it

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Yes, Laurence.

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I read this excellent book...about a year ago.The free energy info and the CE5 protocols where the highlights for me.

Contactee77.....are you talking about the CE5 protocols ?? If so,would love to know more.

I first came across Dr.Greer in 2001 with the Disclosue Project.The press conference of 2001 was a very brave and important event.No surprises that the msm didn't report it.If there is one UFO site that I ask skeptics to check out...it is the Disclosure Project.Over 400 very credible witnesses putting their careers and lives on the line to expose the cover up.And I ask....why would these people do it...if it wasn't true..?

All in all...an excellent book...I'd urge everyone to read it :)

Love & Light to all...

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And the person in our care right now, receiving treatment for PTSD is a Disclosure Project Witness for Dr Greer, his name is Barry King. Dr Greer mentions in some interviews that he has 2 people from the UK whom worked in underground facilities dealing with PLF's. Mr King is one of those 2 individuals


THE WATCHER

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"...spiritual and meditation information..."


The spirit realm is real.
I've studied tons of TV and YouTube documentaries about it all for years.
Same with NDEs.

Here is one of hundreds of videos about it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRs7fXjs_w
(The boy who lived before Pt1)
And it is on TV here in New Zealand again this week.

Also meditation is very important.
For soul energy balancing and awareness of personal development. etc.

Anyone in some form of power within a corporation that laughs at the above information is just on a money trip. (or worse)

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Quote:
"For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own."


P.S.
A hero is not a man that goes off to a strange country to kill strangers.

Dr Steven M. Greer is a real hero and a man to truly admire.


Quote: "Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used in foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger



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And you are? ... friends, medical, hybrids, ETs, from the Orion Project???

I have all of Dr. Greers books and DVDs/videos and am very impressed with the work he has done with respect to disclosure at multiple levels. Anyone who can levitate and go into samadi and meditate with ETs is top notch in my book.

Just recently, Paula Harris asked me to edit two of her books so I've also had an opportunity to read their yet, unpublished interviews. What a treat.

Dr. Greer is a courageous soul and deserving of our support. :thumb_yello:

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what do you know, exactly? have you seen a ufo? have you met an ET ?
I'm all for the disclosure project but Greer has produced nothing.
he charges for his information. set up a video camera or something, i'd love to see it. something. show me the zero point power plant. anything!

and the whole 'i have a g7 nation backing me' sounds like BS to me. i don't trust doctors.

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atama = head in the Japanese language.

Your head needs more research and study before saying the word "BS".

I studied Dr Steven Greer for over 10 years.

Have you seen the testimony from Dan Akroyd talking about Dr Steven Greer? ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3kAuNSI31w


Have you watched the four hour witness testimony DVD?


Have you listened to all the Art Bell and Dr Greer MP3s ?

One example ...

http://www.disclosureproject.org/Tra...ugust82004.htm


Have you read the August 2004 issue of the World Affairs Journal?


I can sit here all day and night giving you more links and information if you want! :original:


Love and Light and Internet Broadband and an Educated Head! :mfr_lol:




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I hope you don't mind writing this, it 's not meant to offend.
That famous singularity... I don't buy it.
The one who invented this idea, surely has sold a lot of books. Good for him/her.

If you've seen this video thread, then maybe you have a more down to earth way to look at things.
As I understand it:
- the right half of your brain is the part that is connected, via all kinds of sensory input, to the outside world; maybe you could say, to all that exists.
- the left half of your brain is the part where the ego is formed, that what separates you from the outside world

For instance with meditation you can try to silence that left part. So you can get in a state this lady in the video was, after she'd had a stroke. You become a person with no boundaries, in contact with the whole existance, cosmos... Maybe then, you also can make contact with ETs ?

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From recent research we now know that the mind is non-local and not located within the brain. This was scientifically proven by experiments with animals.

Singularity... this goes more along with the experience and explanation regarding quantum physics. If one is indeed an interdimensional being capable of existing beyond the human experience, capable of OBE, capable of gathering info from the past a future, then thinking of oneself as just a physical being is limiting.

How do you explain experiencing 'conscious awareness' outside of one's own physical body at another locality, remote viewing, NDE? Is this not also a reality for others who have had these experiences?

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Connected with British Intelligence, Mr King is in our care following the trauma he recently underwent

THE WATCHER

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hi,i'm from germany, so sorry for my english ok :)...

I just saw this thread about Steven Greer and I thought i should post my thoughts here. I've read "Extraterrestrial Contact - The evidence and implications" and I'm not sure about this guy's credibility.

I found this : http://www.ufowatchdog.com/greer.html

Reportedly plagiarizes the UFO work of others and sells as his own, sells do-it-yourself ET contact kits - now you too can steer in extraterrestrial spacecraft with a flashlight and never record them just like Doc Greer does. Made claims of contacting extraterrestrials through meditation. Claimed that U.S. military forces attacked a Colorado ET base inside a mountain using nerve gas, no evidence to back claim. Had dinner with CIA Director and spun tale of having briefed CIA Director about ETs for hours. Hosted press conference with credible UFO witnesses on Capitol Hill - ruined it and his own credibility by selling the work of others with his name on it and using bogus witnesses. Allegeldy attempted to charge Washington State MUFON members $2500.00 each to demonstrate how he can vector in UFOs - Greer got to choose the location and the time... (http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall3.html).....sorry,but greer makes good money with his project and stuff...and some people think this 2001 press conferece took place to detract people from 911...

tell me what you think

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2001 press conference did what UFO videos can never do. Videos or Docs can all be faked, like most of those that appear on youtube.

I can't say about others, but for me, I don't need videos/pics from Dr. Greer to prove his claims. His information and work so far speaks for itself.

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yeh ive read, seen, heard all that before.
Dan Ackroyd i saw in Ghostbusters.:biggrin2:
Disclosure Project is very interesting. Greer wasn't a witness.(tho he did do a great job organizing it)

Greer claims he can call down a UFO at a place and time of HIS choosing. WOW. then he makes people sign an anti-disclosure agreement. c'mon, are you not seeing the irony ?

can i see even the slightest bit of evidence before you suggest that i am uneducated on this topic?

I take back the BS, i don't think he's a complete liar. i just think he has made more than a couple of totally bogus claims he can't back up.

if anything ever comes of Steven Greer's announcements, then I'll happily be wrong. :roftl:

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So, intelligence agencies are not required to follow any sort of confidentiality laws? If I were him, and found out one of my caretakers published my name on a message board on the internet, as well as my diagnosis, I'd be furious, and would file a lawsuit. You disclosed his name on another thread too.

Watcher, I respectfully suggest that you really ought to consider editing out those posts that mention the person's name and diagnosis, for the sake of the above-mentioned person's right to privacy as well as his safety. I don't care if your agency makes you exempt; please consider the liability of this website's owners!

Please don't tell me that I'm the only medical clinician that caught that! :mfr_omg:

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Hi Johnny

I don't know about any of that so I can't comment. Having just glanced at the website you got the information from I can say that I doubt you'll get anything like a balanced opinion from it- it's a debunking site, plain and simple.

I've not read his book but I have seen the 2 & 4 hour compilation of witness testimonies. If it hadn't been for him they would never have seen the light of day. These testimonies speak for themselves- Greer is irrelevent to them. None of these people had anything to gain by coming forward.

Check them out dude. :original:

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Mahalo, Watcher.

I have to laugh at some of the posts here going on about all the money Dr. Greer is making by being in this field. He made far more money as a doc then he does doing this work which is 90 percent volunteer. In fact, he has given thousands of dollars of his own money to get the word out with respect to the disclosure project. The issue here when examining the quality of an individual is two-fold. Is the person moving toward the light and is out there serving others, or is the person moving toward darkness is service-to-self.

I'm on Dr. Greer's email list. Currently they are seeking donations to fund free energy projects for the populace. It takes money to fund research. They are also working and free up technology which will help the earth and people.

This is the Orion's Project's recent email.


Colossal Profits and More Drilling is NOT the Answer!

On August 18th, an article appeared in the New York Times titled As Oil Giants Lose Influence, Supply Drops. It described the absurd dilemma facing the major oil companies today:

“The scope of the supply problem became more clear in the latest quarter when the five biggest publicly traded oil companies, including Exxon Mobil, said their oil output had declined by a total of 614,000 barrels a day, even as they posted $44 billion in profits. It was the steepest of five consecutive quarters of declines.”

Vision – Integrity – Courage – Leadership
Dr. Steven Greer has long predicted the current crisis on the global energy front. It is not only a crisis of limited resources, skyrocketing demand and environmental pollution. It is now also a pressurized political problem, as countries desperately hoard their dwindling supplies of fossil fuels in the face of intense pressure to sell on the open market.

“This is an industry in crisis,” said Amy Myers Jaffe, the associate director of Rice University’s energy program in Houston. “It’s a crisis of leadership, a crisis of strategy and a crisis of what the future looks like for the supermajors,” a term often applied to the biggest oil companies. “They are like a deer caught in headlights. They know they have to move, but they can’t decide where to go.”

The Vision of The Orion Project is clear; deliver small, sustainable, non-polluting energy generating systems to individual homes and businesses throughout the world. Such a goal has multiple benefits:

Ends the major sources of pollution destroying our environment
Greatly reduces the cost of power and energy, thereby reducing global inflation
Creates whole new industries to produce the devices, reinvigorating a troubled economy
Frees the U.S. from dependence on foreign oil
Liberates the world from control and manipulation by an handful of powerful corporations
Provides all countries the energy they need to prosper and develop

This brings us to one of the main goals of The Orion Project, necessary to develop the robust technologies needed to change the present energy paradigm. That is, as soon as we have several technologies that we can prove to be breakthrough energy developing technologies, we at TOP will put together a research facility to bring together experts in different aspects of the technology.

For example, if we win the bid for the Stan Meyer technologies, we will bring a number of researchers who have studied and partially replicated his technologies to the TOP research facility, where they will be able to interact and study not just the patents, but the real thing with fellow researchers. We have already met with several of these scientists and many of them are ready and willing to join the TOP research lab for a period of time to immerse themselves in the technology and make it work.

It will be this in-depth immersion with fellow colleagues that will allow TOP researchers to rapidly assess and build on the shoulders of others to bring out energy producing technologies to literally change the world energy paradigm.

Dr. Greer and his team have held this vision for over 18 years. He has demonstrated the courage to bring this message forward to the public. And he has the integrity and strategic leadership to deliver such a breakthrough to the world at large.

Dauntless Resolution
As the New Year dawned in January of 2008, Dr. Greer and his core team met on the Outer Banks of North Carolina, nearby Kitty Hawk where the Wright Brothers made their historic flights in 1903. Out of that meeting came the vision for The Orion Project and the Breakthrough Campaign; the idea that the public at large could support the research and development of such new energy systems.

To date we have raised over $200,000 in cash donations. We have pledges for another $350,000. We have supported basic research with Pulsed Motor Generator systems. We remain actively engaged in acquiring the winning bid for Stanley Meyer’s water-fuel technological legacy. And just recently have engaged with a very promising inventor in Canada with a resonant frequency generator, creating non-polluting electric power through an ingenious solid state device.


In their day, the Wright Brothers worked tirelessly to fulfill their vision of man being free to fly, often in the face of disbelief, naysayers, and outright ridicule. For years they remained steadfast and diligent, focused on their single objective. The monument to their ultimate success is wrapped with the following inscription:

IN COMMEMORATION OF THE CONQUEST OF THE AIR
BY THE BROTHERS WILBUR AND ORVILLE WRIGHT
CONCEIVED BY GENIUS
ACHIEVED BY DAUNTLESS RESOLUTION
AND UNCONQUERABLE FAITH

We have adopted “Dauntless Resolution” as the motto of our team to muster the sustained determination to achieve these results in the face of apparently overwhelming odds. With the planet in crisis however, we MUST succeed, we ARE succeeding, and we WILL succeed in bringing these promising technologies to the world – lifting all humankind into a new era of peace and abundance on this planet.

Your donations have allowed us to make the progress we have thus far. Please continue to support us in fulfilling this vision for mankind’s breakthrough to a new and brighter age.


They ask for money to support a goal that will benefit mankind as a whole. This is a worthwhile effort and a worthy goal. This is not "big business" with unlimited funds from various criminal cartels. It is a small group of individuals dedicated to helping others.
:thumb_yello:

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Mahalo Makani,
Thanks for taking the time putting up your post. The Orion Project needs a lot of help with funding. Thanks for spreading the word. I have been getting their news letters from the time they started, their progress has been very encouraging.

Peace and Love.
joaq.

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You obviously do not understand this situation at all. We have been working with Mr King since 1988. It is us whom provided certain data to be released via a civilian researcher into the public domain. It is our group whom provides security and protection of Mr King as far as its possible. We have full backing of Mr King to disclose data here on his behalf. Surely this site actually wishes to have insiders and whistleblowers present information here, or is this only by specific types of insiders? In which case you will lose any future hopes of others posting here. Mr King has a very long history in mainstream ufo research, going back to 1966. His disclosures, by way of being sanctioned by our group, date from 1994 to date. His disclosures discreetly mention our group here and there.
As for liability of websites owners then kindly Bill & Kerry input here ASAP. If you censore one you should censore all such data releases here.


THE WATCHER

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hi sunrunner...you're right.the testimonies do speak for themselves.i don't doubt them.i've watched a few..not all of them.especially clifford stone gave me a good feeling you know :)..he's one of those guys who seems honest and it's hard for me not to believe what he claims;).there's a lot of information that causes a "good feeling" when i read it or listen to it and mr. stone is my disclosure project hero you know :). but i miss this feeling when i listen to greer. don't know why. and because of my doubts concerning him i did my little internet "research" and then i found those sites and my doubts increased. maybe the fact that english is not my mother tounge isnt very helpful with understanding and reading between the lines on those debunking sites..you know what i mean?

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See my emphasis with bold and underline above. YOU should have said that from the beginning, and this post never would have been made. It was never divulged that you had permission to post on his behalf. You did divulge he was "in your care," and then you gave away his name and diagnosis. What is someone supposed to think in this situation? By all appearances, it looked unethical, and illegal, so I called you on it. I'd do it again too, if you didn't say beforehand that you had permission.

Don't try to lay on others your oversight of forgetting to say you had permission. Confidentiality is something all humans have a right to, and is the law in most cases, and it appeared like you had breached it. I stand by my posts! If you are discussing a client in your care, you must have permission to publicly divulge name, diagnosis and other personal data, and you must say you have that permission, or someone else has the right and duty to point it out, or even contact authorities that you violated confidentiality laws.

As far as the U.S. goes, your post appeared to violate H.I.P.P.A. You didn't say you had permission, and I don't assume anything I don't know concretely. I am a medical clinician (retired due to disability) and PTSD experiencer. I take confidentiality very seriously, and protested your posts in your client's best interests. He's not here to defend himself.

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No conversation is private. Being in this field or research you may have heard this, Debugged. Or maybe not. Maybe you like to call people out only, seeing as hardcore you got from only 8 posts so far. No offense, but as you said, whats a bystander going do when they feel that the whistleblower MIGHT not fully (or more fully) understand. (In other words, I have as good a reason as you to reply to you in this manner). I am trying to show you why its okay to be calm in this matter: No conversation is private. These consciousness aided technologies and technology aided consciousness can easily penetrate ANYTHING EMF-related anyway. PRobably using scalar (Radionics, Energetics, "self-targeting" atomic memory for information, etc) So I think Mr. King would understand this Being in the PLF labs themselves! However, I do not KNOW Mr. King. I have seen all about his experience though from his interview with CSETI (youtube). Plus, I study Dr. Steven Greer and Dr. Thomas Bearden's work and testimony. Being a CSETI/Disclosure Project witness he may unstand the technology quite well at this point related to "privacy" even being REAL in teh accept form we call it "private" in the West! LOL. However, that doesn't mean THEWATCHER is any less legally liable. I do not know that particular law. BUT, COULD YA HOOOK IT UP PLEASE. :)
I am just requesting: please calm down because maybe there is a reason your paradigm could change (the law you steadfastly pushed on this thread may not be accepted reality soon, but it still is, I see this too). It wasn't personal information that would do ANY MORE harm than what they know all about already anyway. They being the black-ops community involved in protecting their interests.

Maybe I understand this differently than most.

~Blessings To You All~

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FIRST 2 CHAPTERS ARE FREE (click book):
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7...entruth1wz.jpg

THANK YOU for this thread! WOW. Yes, I have read it and HIGHLY recommend it, and have bought many copies to give to friends and family!

To put it short and sweet: the whole book was INTENSELY EXCITING. I couldn't put it down, and I am not a big book reader (until this book though, lol).

The big factor and event in the book that affected me most directly and immediately upon reading was...
FORGIVENESS of the black-operations

When Dr. Greer was attacked by a scalar weapon, remote viewed the attacker in an underground base, and was in total and complete acceptance and forgiveness, the operator STOPPED the attack and looked away in shame.

THIS CHANGED ME BIG TIME! At the time I was a little upset by the whole big reality in the secret projects and governments, bankers, mobs, etc. THEN BAM! This came along in my life and I have nearly stopped ALL Anger in my entire human experience! Its been beautiful ever since! And now have studied Buddhism, I understand Dr. Greer much more within the forgiveness paradigm he presents in ALL HIS WORK.

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:
Thank you again. Absolutely Loved the book and support it on my myspace more than ANY other book, lol.
:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

~In Balanced Time-Reversed Reality With You All~
BJ

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glad to see greer threads alaive and active. i think he's one of the more important but sidelined voices out there today concerning ET's.
but yes lets keep it civil and calm (big big caps and all)

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Perhaps we stated this at the very beginning, in our first posting, we edited that because of changes in links but might have, might have, overlooked the part about stating we had Mr King's full blessings in posting here. This site as started by Bill and Kerry is after all supposed to be for information release from not just civilians. Bill and Kerry emailed Mr King several times with an interest in doing an interview for Camelot whenever they had free time. This carried on for a while as they were busy working and it was during that phase that unfortunately Mr King was advised not to proceed with the interview, same for Exopolitics UK, whom wanted an audio interview but more based on mindcontrolling technologies.
After the silencing certain events took place which resulted in his current trauma but doing very well at this time re recovering.

THE WATCHER

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Greetings BJ!
Sounds like we had similar experiences. I was excited when I received my book and from that moment I couldn't put it down. After reading it, it kind of gave me a sense of understanding and peace about what's been happening on this earth. It gave me the guts to talk to other people about what's been going on ( gov. cover-up, disclosure etc.). I like his views on life. I thank him for his bravery, he's had to deal with a lot of crap.

Peace and Love,
Joaq.

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debugged, i see your point. but at the same time, we now know that the watcher and his group has mr king's full consent to release that in formation. so what's with the hostility? why are we still debating this? it just seems childish to me. not to mention the idea of posting with BIG BOLD TEXT seems condesending to me, but perhaps i misinterpreted your intentions. small text is just as easy to read as big text. i doubt the watcher is going to skip over the small text and automatically jump to the big text. either way, let's just put this episode behind us and move on with the real information rather than focusing on who was right and who was wrong

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And this is where Mr King himself will state, that although he worked within a facility that manufactured these PLF's, mainly for MILAB operations and screen memory implantation in abductees. Off planet intelligences do exist in a number of forms including the oft reported small grey. That has never been a contention, that ONLY man made greys exist, simply that Dr Greer had data from several individuals, 2 from the UK, that worked within this field and he steered towards the idea of perhaps PLFs were THE answer to the small grey identity.
At some point all the bickering here will cease and perhaps we can get on with the business of disclosing information relevent to the aims of this site. Mr King is improving healthwise and we hope he will attend here in person, until that time we will continue to monitor and post where necessary.

THE WATCHER

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Watcher,

Meaning no disrespect -- just not sure what you meant to say! :original:

I'm not arguing anything -- just stating my opinion...that's allowed, right? :original:

I am an Experiencer -- I most definitely have been visited by other Beings. I have spoken with a number of other Experiencers as well -- some have also experienced the occasional MILAB, too.

I don't know how many Experiencers Dr. Greer has either spoken with, or worked with, but...and this is just my opinion...something just doesn't fit with his scenario. I think I speak for other researchers in the field re: Dr. Greer, too. It isn't that he isn't respected in the ufo community -- he is. But something just doesn't seem right to me re: his 'MOST abductions are MILAB oriented" philosophy.

If you research the ufo abduction phenomena to a greater extent, there is more to this issue than meets the eye. Some of this abduction phenomena can be explained in a scientific fashion -- some of this parallels the religious/spiritual realm. Joe Lewels has written a great book called, "Rulers of the Earth," which documents these Beings as having been around for thousands of years, if not more so.

I just don't buy Dr. Greer's philsophy -- not at all. However, that isn't to say that I don't admire him re: his efforts with the National Press Club/Disclosure Project. I very much admire the fact that he has been able to gather together many whistleblowers re: the ufo subject.

I always try to research both sides of the street, so to speak, when it comes to researchers. There is a fair amount of criticism come Dr. Greer's way -- some of it does have merit.

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Here is a link re: 'criticism/feedback' regarding some of Dr. Greer's statements:

LINK: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-44.htm;

AND A SNIP:

..."Also, Greer regularly refers to the Military Abductions (MILABs) phenomenon offered by Dr Helmut Lammer to support his thesis that all alleged abuses attributed to extraterrestrials can be ascribed to MILABs imitating extraterrestrials or to individuals projecting psychological traumas onto benign extraterrestrial visitors. This is a distortion of the evidence provided by Dr Lammer who does not exclude the possibility that extraterrestrials are violating human rights during the abduction phenomenon, only that the military is attempting to replicate extraterrestrial methods and violating human rights in the process."

"Furthermore, Greer does not refer to the extensive research of those such as Zecharia Sitchin, Dr Arthur Horn, William Bramley, Jim Marrs, and others who have examined archeological records and argued that humanity has been seeded by extraterrestrial groups who have violently competed among themselves for control of the Earth. Indeed, these sources point to a long historical presence where humanity has been used as an exploitable resource by some extraterrestrial groups whose motivations and activities are certainly questionable when it comes to the question of human rights violations."

"Finally, in addition to dismissing the data on different categories of researchers documenting extraterrestrial violations of human rights in the modern and ancient era, Greer dismisses the testimonies of a great number of alleged contactees describing the nefarious activities of some contemporary extraterrestrial visitors. Contactees such as Howard Menger, Enrique Castillo Rincon, Eduard "Billy" Meier, "Prof Hernandez", Brian Scott, and many others whose testimonies have been documented and investigated by competent researchers."