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2012 Ascension or Calamity??
2012 Ascension or Calamity??
Where will you be by 2012… Ascension or Calamity As we approach 2012 things will start to speed up and the PTW will get more and more desperate. We will be subjected to more negativity with regard to 2012 and less positive. We all need to be aware and keep the lighted spark going. The PTW know how to control the masses and have done so for eons. They do this with all sorts of brainwashing and mind control on a massive scale. This has been going on for thousands of years. With the suppressing of all sorts of technology and denying us of who we really are and our past lives and histories. This has been executed beyond our scope of understanding. They have out witted us time and time again. However, it is our turn to turn the tables. And we will. We all know how easy it is to hijack the mass population minds and direct there thoughts towards cataclysmic events> as has been projected by so many people, religions, and all sorts of prophets pushing the 2012 story further towards a negative outcome. Most of us know that the mass population is and has been in the past subjected to mind control by them. It's not difficult to control someone’s thought pattern and create it in our reality. The PTW know this and constantly use these power tools to control us. As we are approaching 2012 most of us more or less have a good idea what to expect with upgrades with our DNA, Accension, 5th 6th and higher dimensions. Now bearing this in mind we are fast approaching the most amazing transformation we will experience in 25000 years. I believe it is going to be mindboggling!!! In fact when my inner self really thinks about what we are to expect and putting aside all the negativity with cataclysmic scenarios. I feel on top of the world. My hairs stand on end. The PTW know this and I believe that this will be their last ditch attempt to control our minds, and direct our thought patterns with the release of these extremely negative films and all sorts of images within the next few months. They are desperate and will continue any way which can to hijack our thoughts and direct them towards a calamitous outcome. I believe there are another 2 or 3 films being released about this as well. Can you imagine how the masses are going to react to all this incoming hype about the 2012 scenario. This will be on people minds 24/7. They won't realize it but they will all be inputing towards a very real cataclysmic event which they have helped towards the manifestation!!! Everyone will be talking about it. Even worse if they believe it, they will make it happen!! Expect a huge influx of people trying to find out what is going on these coming months. People will be seeking all sorts of advise about 2012!!! They will be asking all sorts of questions…And they will be reading all sorts of negativity. So be prepared all Lightworkers…all Followers…all Servers of the Devine plan. We are all here for a reason to WAKE UP THE MASSES. This will be a pivotal point towards our Mass Thought Projection and Hijacking of our Minds. Don’t let them control our thoughts. Let us tilt our flow of positive energy towards the light. And enjoy the Change that will transform our lives. WE WILL WIN. And it’s up to you to do your part. Slowly slowly we are all remembering…. Which way will you tilt?? Ascension or Calamity?? viking |
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both viking, the way i see it is like this, when one cleans their home, things are moved around, put into piles, and mess happens, then as things are cleaned the mess becomes tidy, the house bright and shiney. thats the way i see what will happen, its a massive house tidying, just done on all levels. it will be an easier process if one keeps an open heart, and follows the divine within/without. just my simple way of seeing things.
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Hello Viking,when you're searching for truth,look at symbols ,words and numbers.The propaganda is to Mislead you. Maya as in Mayan calender , Means illusion. This culture never called themselves Maya.:lol3:
Search = Se ARCH Arch- enemy An -Archy Arch Nemesis Grand Architect There is great wisdom in the image below. TIC TAC TOE XXX :lol3: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2...goatsgruff.jpg |
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Thanks Bou .... x
And 777 ... you always put a different perspective on things ... your right there are clues everywhere ... people don't realize to what extent ... but we all are waking up slowly ... I'm getting there...:winksmiley02: Gaia....:thumb_yello: viking |
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Ummmm..... I agree very much in princable with what you are saying, people shouldn't dwell on negative emotions, and right now the public needs to find out the unbiased truth (or probability anyway) about this coming event and reflect with positive thoughts so as to help them ascend, but I really don't think 2012 can be turned into doomsday (if its not going to happen anyway that is) by people watching some movies. "Independance Day" & "The Day After Tomorrow" were both mentioned in one of the clips, so we can use them as an example, when "Independance Day" was released, did the negative ET's declare open warfare upon the planet? No, they just kept up their usual ops :mad3: "The day After Tomorrow" like wise didn't bring about the collapse of the global conveyor belt, and plunge us into the next "Ice Age". The problem is none of us really know whats going to happen, so its easy to over react, but I feel everything will work out just as its meant to....... What ever that is :thumb_yello: |
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I of course choose ascension over calamity, who wouldn't? :naughty:
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Yes of course all of us here will choose the latter...It's also up to us, to wake up as many sleepyheads as possible..... viking |
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Where will you be by 2012… Ascension or Calamity As we are approaching 2012 most of us more or less have a good idea what to expect with upgrades with our DNA, Accension, 5th 6th and higher dimensions. Now bearing this in mind we are fast approaching the most amazing transformation we will experience in 25000 years. I believe it is going to be mindboggling!!! In fact when my inner self really thinks about what we are to expect and putting aside all the negativity with cataclysmic scenarios. I feel on top of the world. My hairs stand on end. Absoultely !! Viking. That's how I feel as well. I feel exuberant that we will finally be abe to be ourselves. The true: -I AM THAT I AM - I can't wait to get back my 12 or more strands of DNA. NO MORE LIES; NO MORE DECEPTIONS; FREE AT LAST. The PTW know this and I believe that this will be their last ditch attempt to control our minds, and direct our thought patterns with the release of these extremely negative films and all sorts of images within the next few months. They are desperate and will continue any way which can to hijack our thoughts and direct them towards a calamitous outcome. Can you imagine how the masses are going to react to all this incoming hype about the 2012 scenario. This will be on people minds 24/7. They won't realize it but they will all be inputing towards a very real cataclysmic event which they have helped towards the manifestation!!! Everyone will be talking about it. Even worse if they believe it, they will make it happen!! Expect a huge influx of people trying to find out what is going on these coming months. People will be seeking all sorts of advise about 2012!!! They will be asking all sorts of questions…And they will be reading all sorts of negativity. So be prepared all Lightworkers…all Followers…all Servers of the Devine plan. We are all here for a reason to WAKE UP THE MASSES. This will be a pivotal point towards our Mass Thought Projection and Hijacking of our Minds. Don’t let them control our thoughts. Let us tilt our flow of positive energy towards the light. And enjoy the Change that will transform our lives. WE WILL WIN. And it’s up to you to do your part. Slowly slowly we are all remembering…. I too am nervous about these movies being shown to the general public and the fear and negative manifistation that they may bring on. However, you are absolutely right in saying that it is up to us to be calm and gently guide our fellow human beings into peace, love and light with us. Which way will you tilt?? Ascension or Calamity?? I AM CONSCIOUSLY TILTING TOWARDS ASCENSION. Thank-you Viking, for sounding the alarm. We have to prepare ourselves to help each other out |
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Thank you for kind words yiola... Haven't seen you here much... You should pop in more often...yes exciting times ahead...at times my patience runs a bit thin...but we will get there eventually.
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Is it possible the ptw have timed the economic collapse now to get the people thinking the end is near, and as the movie comes out they will buy into it more and more... FEAR is the goal. We must counteract the fear with HOPE and LOVE for all.
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The time is fast approaching when all here will be called upon to speak the truth with clarity.
The antidote to what the ptw are doing is truth. The way you will heal those that are afraid, and have those fears stirred up with media manipulation is by telling them the truth. A.. |
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thank you Viking for this thread. i believe it is a very important one. And Yolas for your input...let us be ready...
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remember that the light is inside too, let it flow out and touch others, the way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart.
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I choose light. It is my right to do so.
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Everythng seems to be coming to a head...The coming collapse will instill FEAR in a lot of people. You are right United, as we approach these times counteraction is the key...We all know we will not be hoodwinked into the FEAR...but many will be...and it's up to us to guide and lift them out of the loop...the films/media/adverts and build up will be very powerful...so you can imagine with the backup from a little research (what did you find when you first started researching 2012) people will really start to believe... The more FEAR...the easier the control...let's turn it around!! viking |
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Great thread!
Yes, I agree. The Way we pass the upcoming tests we face is by helping others pass theirs. Together we will make this happen. It is very true that fear in the collective consciousness could outplay negative events, that is why it will take people, like those in this forum, to awaken to the higher consciousness within themselves and help show the people there is a better way and a more true reality where the problems do not need to occur. That way we will have a beautiful start to a much better age, a Golden Age, without the prophecised birth pains. The key is in becoming selfless, in focusing on helping others, the more we do this, the higher we ourselves will climb and the more empowered we will be. Following our own divine direction we receive from within, the direction in our hearts that is love based, totally empowering and beyond all fear. Great thread. |
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Thanks Chakras...And Anchor and yes, may truth prevail...
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I don't know if anyone has watched the interviews with Ric Clay, he basically seems to uncover a plot to disrupt high jack 2012 ascension.. He seems to have done his research..
It very interesting how Ric talks about the location of the 2012 Olympics the logo spells out zion, the location being stratford. With A 12 ( A being a pyramid ) and 12 the disciples. The A 12 or great eastern road separates leytone and leytonstone, Ley lines, these meet here as shown by the names. He has a lot more to add in his interview it's very intreasting... I also worry about all the vaccinations being forced upon us not only for health reasons but it is my worry that these have been created as mood altering shots.. To change peoples mood brain functions to the run up to 2012... and autism showing how these shot are aimed not only at our immune systems but also at our brains... But the Swine flu never took off how they hoped it would, people are scarred of these shots... They have planed this for years but have not accounted for how resourcefull we are and how strongly these changes will be opposed and rejected, the more they try the quicker and harder they will fall.. This I am manifesting... every turn they will fall.. Stef |
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He did a great job in very short space of time. may God bless him... viking |
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Hello Viking. I have posted this on another thread about 2012 mayan calendar as well. The cycle is not 26000 years but rather 16 billions year of evolution of the Human consciousness. We are leaving the 9th underworld to get into the first step of the Heavens...
Here is about systems thinking as an evolution of our linear thinking. Systems Thinking: Ancient Maya’s Evolution of Consciousness and Contemporary Systems Thinking Ass Prof Tadeja Jere Lazanski, PhD University of Primorska, Faculty of Tourism Studies-TURISTICA Portoroz,Slovenia http://www.turistica.si/downloads/ob...iPrispevek.pdf Here is Carl Johan Calleman, a serious researcher about the mayan calendar and one of the few on who many are building their own theory about 2012. His website is: http://www.calleman.com/ Here is the pyramid of the evolution of consciousness of Humanity. We are currently on the 8th step. The whole evolution began 16 billions of years ago. http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm And here is an interview with the man: http://mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html It is all about evolution of human consciousness. No polar shift. No devastating climatic event. But a tremendous shift in human consciousness which will cause some major positive change for the future. A new Human is coming... Namaste, Steven |
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Yes Stef , I to believe that even though there may be some curve balls thrown at us, the manifestation of failure of the dark side is not an option , but a predetermined ending of what should not be here at all.
Those of us who believe and know will continue the path to 2013 and beyond, believe it, live it, know it and continue the energy of you towards positive ways . |
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Thanks Steven....I will have a read later...looks very interesting...
Again Chelmo thanks for reminding us about Rik Clay ... amazing chap ... I was going through some of his vids and the information he talks about is amazing.... I have posted what I believe are connected to this thread... JUST WATCH AND LEARN...AND IF YOU CAN,please PASS AROUND... I URGE ALL TO HAVE A LOOK... As events unfold are we starting to join the dots together...? viking |
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2012… Ascension disguised as Calamity by those that don't want us to evict them :thumbdown:
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you said it swanny, boo hissss to them :lightsabre:
bou x |
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Hey Swanny your post 2012 !
And Boudy your post 111! Hey Synchronicity!! viking |
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Cool I like that a lot :original:
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I believe David Wilcock says that 2012 will be "create your own reality time"
what with instantaneous manifestation and all. I submit that we have the ability to create our own reality now, albeit over a little more time. I don't get the impression that we will experience pole shift, planet x, or other similar large-scale catastrophes. I do think that the majority of the bumps in the road will be artificially induced by the dying cabal that has controlled this planet for so long. There wiil be the unvavoidable inconvenience and pain brought about by massive change in a very short period of time as we become conscious of new ways of existence. In the end, the bumpy road leads to a brighter day. Everybody Loves a Happy Ending! :original: |
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Thanks for the enlightening post... again begs the question doesn't it... So where are all these calamatious stories coming from??? The change is coming but it won't be as depicted by the films and all those negative images...:original: viking |
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Everytime a powerful truth comes out to the public and has the force to free the people, you see hundreds of versions of the same message coming out a little afterward with seeds of terrors, sins and victimhood consciousness. When it occurs, it is a good sign the original version of the message contains a truth powerful enough to treatens the Elites and their mind/knowledge control. Here is a very interesting blog Mr. Calleman have made not so long ago about some people trying to seed the mayan 2012 calendar with calamities: ''The Prophets Bonanza – The Approach to the Mayan End Date It seems that at this particular time in the sixth DAY of the Galactic Underworld the discussion intensifies regarding the meaning of the Mayan calendar end date and of course its exact timing. Some people are making claims of being Maya-based prophets or even speaking on behalf of the Mayan people and its council of elders. I take it that for many who like myself have not have had the privilege of studying the Mayan calendar in depth the hearing and reading of this may be very bewildering as they shop around for the truth about “2012”. All kinds of different suggestions are made regarding the time ahead. The Annunaki are coming, there will be a geomagnetic pole shift, a galactic alignment will change everything, a shift in consciousness and volcanic eruptions. Some say that we are going into a special section of the galaxy where everything is speeding up and others that solar flares will intensify. And many of these purported events will take place on December 21, 2012 pretty much out of the blue. It is thus a time of bonanza for all kinds of prophets that not rarely misrepresent who they are and their relationships to the contemporary Maya. For me, as a professional and accomplished scientist working to elucidate the higher meaning of the Mayan calendar, most of the above suggestions are mildly put irrelevant and are completely outside of any logical context of understanding. The only Mayan inscription about the end date talks of the descent of Nine cosmic energies and not about solar flares pole shifts. Many of these geological or astronomical ideas are simply invented by a bandwagon of purported 2012 experts, who simply have to come up with something special in order to carve out a niche for themselves and it is like they are not really taking our current situation seriously. They will sometimes refer to scientists that supposedly support their claims, maybe in Russian or Norwegian journals that neither they nor their fans have read or can read. When you hear a New Age prophet say that there are scientists backing their claims you can be almost certain that these scientists are saying exactly the opposite to what is claimed. In what they are the model of nine underworlds and thirteen heavens different from this plethora of ideas. I think in two ways. First of all, being a professional scientist I have a code of honor preventing me from just making things up. True, not every scientist can be trusted, but it is not so common that professional scientists want to dishonor their heritage. Secondly, it is really irrelevant who developed the model of nine underworlds and thirteen heavens, since everything in this model is empirically based. To accept this model you only need to know that the facts and logic are right. As long as people know some basic historic or biologic facts, or be willing to check their accuracy out, they may understand how the Mayan calendar works. So when I see this whole range of mildly speaking irrelevant ideas serving to confuse people and divert them from preparing for the birth of a new world I of course have to decide what differences between the scientific model and the various purported events of a physical nature on December 21, 2012 are truly important and which ones are not. Is it for instance important to disprove the idea that the Annunaki is coming? Is it important to emphasize that there is no indication that a geomagnetic pole shift is coming in the next few years? Is it important to point out that no Mayan text talks about a galactic alignment? Is it important to inform people as to the real background to the Dreamspell calendar? Is it not possible to let people believe in whatever they like regardless of if this an obvious hoax or not? Can I not just say that ”something” will happen in a ”window” of time between now and 2015? The reason I am so emphatic that the end of the Mayan energies is on October 28, 2011 is that if people think it is December 21, 2012 they will simply miss out on co-creating the process. And the choice to make regarding this co-creation is something that several indigenous traditions say people have to do, and obviously have to make in time. I also am adamant that what will happen is in the evolution of consciousness the reason being that it will be very disempowering for people if they are to look for some kind of astronomical and geological event, when in actuality what is happening is with the people themselves. So this is my rule of thumb: If some 2012 idea leads people away from consciously co-creating the new world in time, then I think it is important to clarify the fallacies in that idea. But I would like to open this up to discussion. Provided that you agree with me that we will now be given the opportunity to be co-creators in the birth of a new world what is it really important to stand for and what can be ignored in the current Prophets Bonanza? What are your rules of thumb? Seattle, August 30 (4 Chuen) Carl Johan Calleman'' end of the quote. So according to Mr. Calleman, the real important date here is: 28 October 2011, this will be the date of co-creating a new world, not 21/12/2012. At that time, it will be too late... Now, you see how important it becomes to imagine a good future between 28/10/2011 and 21/12/2012. If the seeds of calamity are strong enough in the people's mind between these date of ultimate co-creation, then at 21/12/2012 and afterward, we might get these calamities indeed... Thank you very much for this thread. Namaste, Steven |
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. I also want to thank you for your amazing input on this thread. I am honoured that you have taken the time to express your thoughts and findings as I have. I find your findings about the Mayans facinatiing and have enjoyed digesting the information. Quote:
I have no rules Steven I go with my heart and constantly ask for guidance for truths. PM me if you wish. Again thank you for your amazing input. viking |
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It's important to look as 2012 as just another year and that we can manifest it as either a good year or a bad year.
It works to get people to think of it in a positive light as they would any other new year. I don't watch movies anymore so it's hard to subject myself to that kind of negativity. My father asked me if I thought the world would end in 2012, a question out of the blue. I told him that I think good things are going to happen to us and that we will see for sure. It's important that we shift our thoughts away from negativity and towards something positive. There will always be things that we cannot prevent but the more negative attention we focus on catastrophic events, the more likely those events will happen. I have seen websites that are likely 98% negative (Above Top Secret) and also some sites that are 98% positive. There has to be balance but 98% negative, wow, that is just way too much. |
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Thanks Humble...:thumb_yello:
"message of a new dawn - the new dawn of a time of peace and happiness for all mankind." viking |
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Even with all these seeds of terrors among the 2012 topic, I am very optimistic about the end. And I base my point of view not on hopes, but on observations.
If you look at Avalon at its beggining in 2008, you could see many posts about ''safe places'' and ''radiant zone''. The focus was on how to be prepared for all these calamities. Only few posts were about the power we have in hands to shape our own future. Now, it is quite different. You can see people getting more aware about our own power regarding the human destiny. We are, little by little, switching from an ''undergoing mentality'' to an ''acting mentality''. In other words, you can see the people beginning to see the reality of manipulation behind the scenes because they know how the states of consciousness is ultimatly what shapes the future. I see it on Avalon. But I see it just about everywhere too. Even with my friends or collegues at work. The people around are awakening to this reality all around the globe and it will only keep growing... And this is exaclty what the Pyramid of Evolution of Consciousness from the Mayans is all about. Namaste, Steven |
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This is from http://www.cosmicawareness.org click on "October 2009 Hotline."
Here is but a small excerpt. I advise you to read it all for a valuable update. A Genuine Grassroots Uprising Against Obama is Beginning They are seeing that this house reform is dangerous in the powers it holds over people's very lives and existence and would put the state in the position of being the prime judge as to whether or not the people themselves have the right to live or to die. There is a genuine grass roots upsurge in the people who are seeing and understanding what is starting to go down; that which is already in full motion, for this is not the start. This is a continuation and an escalation of the plans of those who have been behind the New World Order's regime and plan for so long. This is what is starting to occur more and more and it is seen by this Awareness that the protest will continue to build, the opposition will continue to rise up against Obama and his government. It is seen that the presses and media of the world will continue to try to place Obama as the leader who cares, the leader who was chosen by the people for the hope he gave for the people, but it will become increasingly difficult as this individual and his government becomes more transparent, to hide the fact that more and more personal liberties and freedoms are being eroded and stolen from the people. It will be harder and harder to paint this man as a hero and a savior when what his actions are showing is that more and more people are being imprisoned, both physically as well as mentally and emotionally. The great nation of the United States of America will be shown to become more a tyrannical dictatorship with people's rights being eroded and corrupted to the point where eventually they will no longer have rights. They will have been squandered away, taken away, stolen away by those very individuals that they have elected into office. The grass roots process that is now beginning is important in bringing to the ordinary individual the understanding and awareness that things are not as they seem to be. At this point, this grass roots movement is still very virginal in its potency. In other words, it is not potent. It is so new that those who are part of it are largely unorganized and are not an effective voice and can easily be portrayed as so many crazies who are coming together because they feel their American way of life is being corrupted and that they are being delusional in their reaction that this man, this government is not doing it the way they suggest. It is easy to present those who have a legitimate voice who are speaking the truth, as those who are crazy, those who are delusional, especially if the controlled media of the world wishes to present it this way, but soon it will be seen in the mass uprising of ordinary individuals. For the End Times, the Ascension, All This Must Occur Many are starting to see in their own individual lives through their own individual eyes the consequences of the actions of this government and the Powers That Be. This Awareness indicates this is all part of that which is part of the shift in consciousness and that it must occur for many to start to see the truth behind those who hold power, those who lead and are elected as leaders of the people. Very few are leaders of the people or have the people's concern at heart, and it is now time to become more and more aware and more and more active in the protest against those who have charge and dominion of the people. This is seen by this Awareness as part of that which is the Ascension, part of that which is also known as the End Times. This Awareness is complete. |
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One more thing from http://Cosmicawareness.org
Questioner: (I see.) Is there anything additional on this topic? Cosmic Awareness: At this time this Awareness feels complete with this topic. It is relevant to this time, and this Awareness wishes that this information be released very quickly so that many can understand and see that what they are already suspecting and questioning is indeed true and valid, and that individuals start to trust their own instincts. This Awareness has for years been pointing out who and what is behind power. It is time for many to start seeing this in their own way so that they can always suspect immediately that what is being presented is not the truth of the situation, and this way they will not always become embroiled in the negativity of events, but rather will be able to assume a detached nature where they can view the events that are presenting themselves that are indicative of the change that is coming, and they can choose also to stay more focused in the creation of their own reality that will allow their own expansion of consciousness and awareness that will allow them to move forward in the Ascension process and beyond the reach of the manipulators of consciousness, the controllers of humanity. That is why this Awareness has been as extensive as It has been today in the information It is releasing. |
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I don't think political bashing is ascendant but descendant behavior.
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