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I just saw this video from Spain. See what you think. USO anyone or fake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2wauxK8RKA

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Carumba!

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Hi happyhollergal,

The video I think is fake. Why? I'm assuming that there were only two supposed fighter jets. If so there is no way they could have circled in only eight seconds to pass over where the 'UFO' had splashed down.

Of course there could have been four fighter jets, and a helicopter, what a congested sky that would have been.

Why was the face of the fisherman blurred out? What does he have to hide? And why was the video posted to 'Terra' anonymously? After all the Spanish government knows who the people are aboard the vessel.

They could have made millions by publishing or selling the video if it was real.

Best regards,

Steve

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You spoil all the good stories Steve.... :naughty:

viking

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Steve_A

Question:

Do you understand UFOs are real, both black OP and real ET spacecraft?

Just had to ask because over the past year I have witnessed you post all manner of financial/political economical type stuff *yawn* pardon me, and frequently you have come in to UFO or various "fringe" threads and offered your opinion of them to be likely hoaxes, always with sensible rational observations and arguments always with conservative cautious approach which is admirable. You are representing the views of the majority no doubt, and that is fine.

And you have a really great sense of humour which I like.

But what position do you take on UFOs? I know you have probably studied them for many years in great detail, but why does it come across as though you're dismissive of the topic.. and I won't start on channeling. :naughty:

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Its possible that there where two jet fighters on each way, the first group of two coming from behind the the other two coming from the front.

Also, why would a fisherman carry a camera?, but anyways, I would.... you never know what you can see in the middle of nowhere.

I truly believe in the UFOs, you have got to be dumb to think we are alone.... I wont say that everybody is stupid, but we have been here, for what? thousand of years.... and we got stars that are billion years old?.......including an infinite universe with many dimensions ??

Anyway, we will see more UFO later on this year.... I believe.

Good post!

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Hi Luminari,

I use a critical eye on information that people post about UFOs. I'm not doubting the question if UFOs exist, but rationalizing about the information. Is the information / person / video / photograph credible?

I'm not so, for want of a better word arrogant to think that the human race is the only race that exists in this Universe. Each year we see new solar systems, new horizons, new constellations that will have further solar systems.

As humans we cannot base the Universe on what we know, after all we don't even know that much about our own moon. We only just discovered that there is probably water on there! How can we as humans think that there is no life further afield?

We also can't limit ourselves into thinking that if a planet has no water or oxygen, there can be no life. There can be no life AS WE KNOW IT as Mr. Spock might say on Star Trek, but it doesn't rule out other forms and ways of life.

So, answering your question, if I think that UFOs are out there? Sure.

Do I think that what people are showing about them are telling the truth? Not always.

When we are meant to see 'UFOs' we will ALL see them. They will not hide, there will be no doubt, they will manifest themselves for all to see. We must be prepared (as an ever growing number of people are) for this to happen.

Best regards,

Steve

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Steve, thanks for your thoughts on this. I do have to disagree that we all will see UFOs at the same time. A year ago last night, I had my first ever sighting, very close, yet it wasn't on tv or in the newspaper, so maybe only a few of us in our little town saw it that night. The video was posted on another sight, and it looked real to me, but then thinking about it, maybe it was faked. I'm not sure is basically what I came up with. :original:

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Hi happyhollergal,

I wasn't suggesting that we would all see a UFO at the same time. Perhaps I was unfortunate in the way I expressed myself.

I meant that we would all know about it at the same time. The manifestation would be so great that, just as 9/11 raced around the globe in real (or almost real) time, this would also.

It seems that there are so many 'sightings' where, as Nick Pope said 95% have a simple explanation, and so much fluff to cut through to get to a clear picture, the whole physical UFO question is still up in the air. At this stage in the game, we either beleive or we don't.

What will happen eventually is that something will occur that will without a shed of a doubt will confirm not only UFOs, but also the other life forms, their identity, their origins and their mission. This occurence will be so profound that it will change the way we, as mere humans, will perceive where we live.

Best regards,

Steve

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if this was real they would have sent out a navy ship to intercept these guys and debrief them on the water they would have never let them get back to port to do it. The other thing is the camera`s would have been taken or the video deleted from them this footage if real would never have made it too You Tube

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Yeah they probably did (if it was real) which makes them heroes for escaping with the camera footage and uploading it, before the PTB or the MIB got to them. :thumb_yello: (again if it is legit) :wink2:

We can speculate forever I guess we need more on the story..

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My feeling when i watched it was when the camera was looking to the ground was because the helicopter was getting close so he was hiding the camera.

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Thanks Steve_A for the reply.

I'll mentally try to vector some UFOs to your location.
Keep an eye out over the next week or so, may pay to keep a digital camera on hand too. :original:

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I have had visions of craft that fly & maneuver in water equally well. Really awesome. Some as small as two passenger.

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This one is for you Steve and who ever wants to see the reports


http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/2012fo...php?board=24.0

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I think the video in question is real, good footage.

Thanks for the link mntruthseeker, some excellent videos on that site.

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Yes, I agree and it truly makes your name fitting indeed. :naughty:

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Hi Everybody,

So finally Terra (internet provider in Spain) comes clean.

The video of the UFO making a splashdown, along with three others (a disk being removed from a beach and another found in the forrest) were made in honour of Orson Wells.

http://noticias.terra.es/Actualidad/portada.aspx

It's exactly this sort of thing I was trying to say in a previous post in this thread. It makes me want to spit. Many people or organizations do this sort of thing as a joke, for publicity (as was this case) or for financial gain.

I could be forgiven for being just a little cynical.

Best regards,

Steve

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Thanks for the update Steve, I can't read any of it but trust you.

You're alot wiser than I and your BS detector is pretty acurate.

Thanks for keeping it real.. I guess I'm just way too optimistic (stupid, naive etc).

Disclaimer *do not listen to Luminari* :lol3:

Cheers mate.

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Hey, Steve, can I borrow your bs detector?:lol3:

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Right before this thing "Splashes" into the ocean. Looks like an insert. The splash is what I am questioning. From what I know about these things it shouldn't have splashed. Maybe the man made ones do.

Here's another one that looks more credible.

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/...4&topic=6487.0

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Lionhawk, that one is awesome.

Had to think for a while that is was some how remote controlled but then when it shot off like a rocket!!!!

Very nice find.

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Hi Lionhawk,

Yeah I saw that one yesterday aswell, I'm too wary now to believe...

It is excellent though, and I wouldn't mind one of those craft to 'hoon around in'.

You could commute to work in Europe each day from Australia. :original:

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Yes nice vid Lionheart.

When i see the end 'shoot-off' on this or any ufo vid (which is so common it becomes cliche but not my point) i wonder about the occupants enduring the G-forces of such a maneuver.
I guess i'm saying that if i ever get abducted then i'm getting brought back early and they will have a mess to clean (unless they give me a dramamine first).

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I don't think you would feel any G forces in the real ones as that is based on a different technology. What I thought I saw and maybe it's a trick of the eye was right before it took off, there looked like some kind of phase shifting going on for a split second and then wooosh, it was gone. Also I think the occupants knew they were being filmed. But were probably alerted and had to take off.

But if you think G forces are the norm with these things, you might consider packing a diaper to take with you on your flight. :roll1:

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I'm sorry, but no technology is going to rewrite the laws of physics.

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I couldn't agree more with that statement. Only a living being can do that. :wall:

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I'm sorry but beings are not rewriting laws of nature either. Why not say the operators of the craft are used to the g-forces or that gyroscopes or something keeps the interior of the craft more stable than the exterior like a ball in a shell?

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Why say anything that would just mis-lead? I mean if I knew I would gladly share as to how this works. But our understanding of these things can not be presented with a limited mind set as they defy everything we know of physics.

In scientific terms, we can deal with the ideal, the first, the second, and the third approximations. But to just generalize anything of the nature of these crafts in just not written and available to the public in actual truth. It merely comes down to our limited perceptions as to how we think they should work vs. how they really work. We are only beginning to get a peak of what we use as general physics is really all about.

I'm not going to tell you gravity doesn't exist, because I have been hit in the head by falling apples a few times and rain falls from this sky. At the same time I am not going to mis lead anyone based in the second hand, by coming up with what appears to be some logical theory that isn't proven.

Also to add to that, the mind set of the ones flying these things. Way different than our limited mind sets. So again why say anything that could lead to disinformation?


Here's one of my favorites! Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQjB3EBLdvA

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I reread your first post and saw you're only guessing and not stating a fact which is fine. We're all guessing on this forum when it comes to the unprovable.
Thanks for the debate and enjoy your day! :original:

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Perfectly true, but who says that if it is a true space craft of sorts that it is being driven by something that resembles us?? From what I read on here, the books are being proved wrong so maybe the laws of phisics are wrong too??

Maybe, just a little , a smidgeing, a morsel we dont know do we.

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I didn't say I was guessing either. If you really want to know, I have been taken for a ride when I was in my early twenties. There were no G's in that ride. For that matter it was very quiet. Surprisingly so. At the same time I was to preoccupied as to the view and wasn't concerned with G forces. Also if you knew anything about G forces and try to apply them to these crafts as far as their ability in terms of take off and speed, you would have blacked out in an instant because those kind of G values are off the charts. Ask any pilot or look it up somewhere as I know this information is available. So why not tell me what kind of physics are going on here. Again it was one cool ride and I wasn't on board to learn how their craft flew. It was a meeting in which I was also informed that they would be coming back at a future date and time. Also, mind you, that maybe there is a possibility that these crafts don't work all the same. I think that is a safe assumption. The craft I was on was a small one and it was Plejaren. Comfortably it seated maybe six at the most. There were two Plejarens with me on each side and we sat at a console.

I can't prove it so consider this second hand to you.

I couldn't agree with you more Ammit. Our arrogance and assumptions only equal ignorance when we add them together. And we can't prove anything by using those attributes. We just don't know. We also don't think like them. Our thinking is so limited when you look at it. Oh yes we are this and we are that, mostly words on the screen till you prove it to self. Then it means something.

I also heard mentioned that some of these craft are also organic in nature. That's a whole different set of physics going on there. In cooperation with other beings? Reach for that one. Don't believe it as you can't experience that with believing, but understand it is a possibility. No one has proven it. So what do we end up here besides just plain physics. Dimensional polarized physics? What would you call this besides some quantum thingy physics thing? Makes you wonder in awe.........

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Lionhawk I have heard this said before. The physics of such stuff does not count its beyond us, i believe it is anyway.

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i saw this about a week ago..
i think its fake also.

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lol

the "laws of physics' are not concrete.
they are being 'rewritten' as we speak.

video is still bunk though. lol

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Alright Lionheart, if you went for a ride and felt no Gs then i believe you.
You said their coming back so if you go for another ride BRING A CAMERA, PLEASE!!! :original:

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May i rephrase that as the laws of physics are concrete, our understanding of them is being rewritten as we speak?

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I think the label of "physics" is just to general. Laws of such physics according to their respective environments might be a better way to approach this field. It is I guess a field, but what field we look at from is going to determine how we relate to it. So in that sense this conversation we are having might not be so limited as to how we relate to it, if that made any sense.

My little ride was all about awareness. Aware that they are here. No names were ever spoken. It was all telepathic. However I couldn't help feel as though we were kin as that is how I was treated. The ride was short and we didn't go passed our solar system. I will never forget what this Planet looked like from out there and how when we ventured further out, how it got smaller. It is one beautiful Planet until you zoom in on us.

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Glad you enjoyed the ride Lion. Of course there are different types of physics (mechanical, quantum etc.)
I'm just saying 99.99% of the time (never say never) an apple is going to fall down and not sideways. :original:

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Can I jump off the physics train for a moment??...I'm sure I'd be a victim of gravity.

LH....As a general statement ...Do you not think we are capable of greatness??

I know there are many things wrong...but I see great potential in all of us.

A chance to be great....How do you feel??

I get the "cold" vibe from you like your scanning us and not seeing\feeling us?

Watching us from a lofty place but not one of us....

No offense.....I respect the things you write very much and value your opinion.

Just wondering...."Are you With uS?"