Think Swine flu overhyped? Tell your friends about the News/death ratio
 

Hi...

came across this on the globalresearch site. I knew that MRSA had killed more in the UK alone than swine flu globally. But this guy looked at the statistics for TB in a two week period

Love his accent. Specially when he says 'blue bubbles'

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If this doesn`t spell it out then people are blind good find

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Yep ... :thumb_yello:plaster it on facebook!!

viking

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Thanks for posting this, I'm off to post in on my myspace and facebook. It's apparent that the media is working hard to help the governments make people scared of the swine flu so that they'll gladly line up for the vaccines, yet they intentionally do not expose the incredible numbers related to tuberculosis deaths. I always come back to the question: "What else are they not telling us?"

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I wonder if anyone's got any figures for road deaths and heart disease in the same period ??

Pray, what measures are TPTW implementing on ervyone the world over to stop those deaths?

Not to mention those that die every day in warzones.

How about we stop war? That would save a few extra lives huh ?

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Why don't i believe this is all going to happen?

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if your energy, and, vibration is high /and, right
likely it won't happen to you

you see-it isn't about 'who' you 'are'
it is about 'who' all our brothers/and, sisters are
who might be silly/or stupid enough to take the shot !!!

(see, another post here)

Body Bags have been sent to Manitoba from the Canadian Health Ministry as a preliminary step to this season's alleged swine flu outbreak. First Nations children and adults in Manitoba are amongst the first in Canada that have taken the H1N1 Vaccine willingly. Already there is a death toll from the first wave.

http://www.canada.com/Liberals+deman...355/story.html

This is REAL folks. The test results from experimentation in rural communities is coming back NOW. The virus is being incubated right before our eyes. Please prepare and remain centered.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

we got so mad, about folks NOT listening, we erased all our posts !!!

NOW, they'll have to do their own research !!!

where people see BLANKS - they will have to fill them in !!!

curiousity sometimes gets 'the cats'

research the real story of scherff and curious george, the monkey

it is TIME to get off your tuffets
(sure, you can shift the collective consciousnes)

but, you also got to shift everyone else too !!!

it is time to shift the old 80/20 rule

and, make it 100% to NOTHING

to create a 'real' heaven on earth !!!

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I think I am a little confused????

What does this beacon/light/infrared device have to do with a vaccine?

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installed in you !!! (it is a big deal)

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That device is not going to be installed in to people!!! :lmfao:

Where in the world did that come from?

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Published yesterday was an article by Bill Sardi, who writes on things medical. Article was "18 Reasons Why You Shouldn't Vaccinate Your Children."

Now, many of the resons have been published elsewhere, admittedly, but he brings up some good ones I hadn't read, and there are a couple of good influenza case graphs that are very revealing. (Using CDC's own data, By the way)

Graph 1. "Flu cases this year" shows that this flu bug had basically run it's course, and was on the way out by June.


Graph 2. "Pediatric Deaths From Flu" is also very telling on two other issues.

1. Both the 2006-07 and 2007-08 flu seasons were more deadly than this one was/is.
2. The "deadly 2nd round" they've been talking up, for this fall, doesn't really have a precedent. In the previous 3 flu seasons, said "return" was barely a blip.

This last item does leave room for a bit of questioning/speculation:
1. On what are they basing their prediction of a terrible, stronger "return" this fall? The data of the last three flu seasons do not support it.
2. If it is a known fact, what are they basing this knowledge on? Or perhaps better asked:
3. Since this is a "new strain", sorta, and it does have a "2nd wind" even worse than round 1, How did it get in there?

Two quotes from the article, below (emphasis mine):

According to data provided by the Centers for Disease Control, for week 34 ending August 29, 2009, there were 236 hospitalizations and 37 deaths related to the flu.[in children] That would represent just 5 hospitalizations and less than one death per State, which is "below the epidemic threshold."

15. Public health authorities have cried wolf every flu season to get the public to line up for flu shots. Health authorities repeatedly publish the bogus 36,000 annual flu-related deaths figure to scare the public into getting flu shots. But that figure is based on the combined deaths from pneumonia in the elderly and the flu. Maybe just 5000–6000 or so flu-related deaths occur annually, mostly among individuals with compromised immune systems, the hospitalized, individuals with autoimmune disease or other health problems. As stated above, the swine flu in full force has only resulted in ~500–600 deaths in the first six months in circulation and it is far more dreaded by public health authorities than the seasonal flu. The Centers for Disease Control issues a purchase order for flu vaccines and then serves as the public relations agency to get the public to pay for the vaccines. Out of a population of 325 million Americans, only 100 million doses of flu vaccine have been administered each year and no epidemic has erupted among the un-vaccinated.

Ok then... that leaves me with the hunch that this is a
Genuinely manufactured non-event.
So the next dumb question has to be.... WHY?

Fred

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Sorry, just HAD to add this tidbit:

We got a mailer from our local Stater Bros. Grocery today!

They are going to offer in-store Flu vaccines 3 days next week for "Only $35 ea.!"

Be still my heart.

Wifely Unit threw it away so fast I didn't think about looking to see if it came with any kind of "certificate", until it was gone.

Fred

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I agree. Read the text in the close ups. The device requires a 9V battery - you know, the kind with the two snap on terminals on one end. They are for attaching to various objects, but not people. At least, not in any sort of permanent way.

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when they put a bracelet on you,
do you think, you will be able to take it off ???

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how do you know, there isn't microchips IN THE actual vacine ?

did you know, that beings in the ethers, can chip you too ???

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Mandatory shot and they make you pay HA HA HA Oh before you take the shot could you please dig your own grave I`m afraid we will be a little short staffed in this area.:lmao:

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Not mandatory in the US, or California either. So far.

Doesn't matter, never had one, and won't have this one.

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http://www.rense.com/general87/len.htm
MUCH MORE on link!!!! Imperative reading.

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And Fredkc you bring up a great point... flu deaths are complicated with other health matters within the person who died.

Even the Orange County Register admitted yesterday 9-16-09 that all the flu deaths they reported were attributable to 'other' causes and the person who died had a flu!!!!

Also keep in mind America has, at last report, over 264 million weapons, so America is not going to be disarmed by any army on the face of this planet anytime soon!!!!

Also there are no pictures or evidence of any kind of a wrist band with an RFID chip in it nor does pegging a wrist band into the wrist make any sense at all. This postured storytelling so far only comes from the religious community and there is no evidence to back it up. Discovery Channel two years ago did a program on the investigation of the 'Left Behind' series gobbled up by churches... this series became the most successful money making story-documentary in history!!!! Also, for years now pastors and religious leaders have been asked by organizations to help the public in the event of a disaster... they have been set up for this from the beginning... it is a psy-ops program to scare the hell out of the religious people and set them up for the next scapegoat.

If there is only available 45 million vaccines so far then who on October 15 is going to receive them? And on November 15 another 45 million vaccines may be available who will receive those? And if only 57% of the people claim they will voluntarily take the vaccine than they are still short 100 million vaccines before they would have to enforce vaccines to cover the rest of the population.

Evidently they cannot produce enough vaccines until well into next year!!!

So how many school children are there currently in America?

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*** A WARNING TO EVERYONE - UPDATE 09/15/2009 ***

america is about to 'cease' eXistence !!!

That is why troops from all over the world
have been training (in the USA) all summer!

I bet you didn't know that!

You need to do a little investigating of your own.

YouTube search for Operation Overwatch,
that should get you started.

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Exchanger you are a total fear mongering canuck!!!

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From US Census Bureau:

56 million: The projected number of students to be enrolled in the nation’s elementary through high schools (grades K-12) this fall.

19 million: The projected number of students enrolled in the nation’s colleges and universities this fall.

Total: 75 million.

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I had a sick kid this week and checked a number of swine flu information websites. They are playing down the threat. It's just another flu, they say, and so far cases in the US have been mild. Most people just get over it. They encourage people with the flu to stay home. Only at-risk cases should seek out remedies such as Tamiflu. The worst that might happen, according to these websites, is some school closings and individual quarantines. They encourage people to have some extra food on hand in case they have to stay home for over a week.

The doc asked us to come in because of a high fever. They did a quicky flu test (this test does NOT distinguish swine flu from any other flu). It wasn't the flu, just a head cold from hell that resulted in a mild case of walking pneumonia. The doc did not make any mention of flu shots.

If they were expecting a major round of shots to occur in a month, I would expect the scare campaign in the media to be ramping up about now. Is anyone seeing this happening?

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I put this on my facebook. Its catchy and I'm hoping my "sleeping families and friends" might take alook. I also put on the video you had on here

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60 Minutes Swine Flu shot expose' part 1


60 Minutes Swine Flu shot expose' part 2

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Knowing what we all now realise - how come the docs are being 'bribed' (paid) to give vaccines??? Sabotage the stuff - why can't the docs say 'damage to box - unuseable' where are their consciences, and the consciences of our military?
NOW IS THE TIME to STOP THIS. We are FREE. WE CAN MAKE CHOICES.
CHOOSE FREEDOM
I will NEVER submit.
http://www.rense.com/general87/len.htm

much more on link....

POSTED TWICE HERE - PLEASE READ!!!

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Of course this may not even be the endgame, but another dipping of toes in the water, just like SARS.

Did you notice that the legal powers that allow WHO to usurp sovereign nation powers, like power of quarantine and martial law, only came into being in 2005 ?? After the SARS outbreak.

So it could be the 'totalitarian tiptoe' to quote Icke. Move in, test the water, then move out again. Meanwhile new laws are past and unused.

So maybe it isn't all going to happen in one sting? That's not what they do with fluoride, that's not what they do with MSG, give you enough to kill you in one hit, no, spread out the dose over a loooongg time.

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes away and comes back again next year, but worse. Or after lots of people get vaccinated and have no ill effects, we get to have to be used to the idea that we get a shot every year... and then, over time....

If you think about it, we are still reacting in a very 'millenial' fashion, like one big thing is about to happen. But people like Icke and George Ure and Jones have not been following this game plan like some of us for a year and a bit, but for a decade or more. (ok, I was following the 911 and the Iraq war, presidential elections conspiracies too, but I've only come to the 'unified theory' recently)

Yet, there hasn't been a single 'global killer' yet. Maybe it won't happen that way.

I await the football results with interest... :wink2:

Meanwhile all we can do is wake up friends and family (We need to get out more, they need to stay in more and read google!)

Peace n Love

K

P.S. FredKC I love 'Wifely Unit'...lol... that made me laugh so...:roll1:

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Ron Paul, one of the only medical doctors in Congress, makes some common
sense observations about the Swine Flu hysteria.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/698.html

- Brasscheck

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Carnival season...'get your flu vaccine now for only $35.00!! Prices go up the following week......'
"Wifely Unit".....thats the first time I've heard that expression...dig it up for myself on that "Joyous Day".
Tee Hee Hee:roll1::roll1::roll1::roll1:
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History is a lie commonly agreed upon........Voltaire

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I wonder if they'll have half off coupons for spoiled/tainted 'lots'. :lmfao::lmao:

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From what I've read, I'm tending to believe the chip will be inside the needle, and/or the lovely bracelets. The chips are much smaller than before, so it makes sense, also you a cannot have a bunch of them suspended in the vaccine, though obviously you can have gobs of nano particles , not the same though.
ahh, technology...

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i like cliff high of webbots take on the situation. they will need approximatley 60 MILLION!!!! enforcers to garrison the united states in the event of forced vaccination programs. the 400 000 fema camp guards and internement officers are not enough to mess with 300 million armed americans who know how to use those weapons.

they will attempt to mandate vaccines but it will fall flat. its what they resort to after that in theri next wave of control measures that may be wilder yet. the swine flu will kill a few and the vaccine will too but will fall short of targets as uSUAL. :thumbdown:

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I don't think we can second guess life. That's why we have all these convenient 'timelines' switching lanes more than a commuter in Bogota.

But the fear at what might be is real. Every time.

I have my toilet paper :original:

I look at this as : What do we know for sure ?

It's surprisingly little when you get down to it:

I know I have more toilet paper for example. :shocked:


I don't know if there will be martial law or mandatory vaccinations, in spite of all the things I have read that make ones toenails curl.

So like many have said on here, I can't believe it's going to happen. I don't feel it's going to happen. I'm either the stupidest bunny in the history of car headlights or... or.. or well....

That's it ! Orwell !


K

P.S. I just noticed Sky (that's Rupert Murdoch - the one a bit like that guy out of Tomorrow Never Dies ?) are doing free films on Sky 3 this weekend. And you know which film they picked... out of all the goodies?

'I am Legend' - the post apocalyptic story of an entire global population who gets an anti-cancer vaccine and turns into zombies. I love that film, I really do, but I wonder why they chose that one to show for free? :roll1:

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Hello Kula. I agree with your point here, because if you look how the manipulators have proceeded in the past, it looks that way, progressively... But there is something new this time. Something they have came to understand not so long ago. And that is the cosmical energy coming from our center Back Hole. Dr. Paul Laviolette has come out to the public showing technical evidence to this claim, as well as geologic data, archeologic and anthropologic signs that tells us it is cyclic and have happenned in the past.

(Alex Collier also mentionned this in his testemony, but he said this time is different, the andromedans told him that a new range of frequency draws out a new holographic Universe coming out of our Black Sun that pulls up all densities upward.) I understand some might take this information as douptful, I do not.

The reality of the mayan prophetie (the original one), tells us that a new world will emerge, and new Human will born form the center of its own being. It does not talk about the end of the world, but the birth of a new one. Which draw quite a different picture in the mind of the masses.

The manipulators were not beleiving this, the facts were not there yet. Now they realize it comes to be true because of the facts coming to us and they are accelerating their plan. Instead of being progressive as they plot long time ago, it has to be all before 2012 now. They realize people are waking up. :nono: That explain why we see their attempt precipitated, not well planned and obvious, like 9/11 for example. Moreover, they always sign it with numerology (dates of the events), which makes it more informative about the plotters.

I think they will only accelerate the waking up in the population if they push too much the button with swine flu vaccine. Moreover, the vaccine will not work as they planned, their nanoships will not work, the pandemic will not spread, the people will not die in mass, the children will cure from the vaccine's poisons. I often dream of Humanity uniting under this threat and throwing these plotters in jail for a lifetime, their bodyguard turning against them and uniting with the giant who just woke up.

Namaste brother, Steven

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I agree with you Steven, and I trust what I feel and I do feel there is a 'quickening' (unless it's borderline mental instability in my case... :original:)

But I just don't get it when I read, ' the andromedans told him that...'

I mean. It's amazing enough to imagine what proportion of people interviewed by Camelot alone have either seen, or have knowledge of alien life. Not to mention what proportion of posters on Avalon have seen ufos or aliens firsthand. That gives me the shivers. If it's really true.

And I believe myself that there must be alien life, but it's an all too conveninet way of passing on information that cannot be argued against.

'Oh, the Andromedans told him that ?? Well, you don't want to believe everything they tell you ! How do I know ? The Orions told me.... '

See what I mean ?

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Kulapops,
I am reminded of a line from the Michael Keaton movie "The Paper"

"You are accurate, ethical, and literate, and I want you out of here this instant!"

http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif

Your "mental instability" aside (thanks, I brought my own), I share your skepticism on several things. And replacing "unimpeachable" with "unreachable" triggers mine, as well.

Fear not. After all, even "doubting Thomas" made the grade. ;)

Fred

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Yes, I understand what you mean. Even without this testimony, we still have measured cosmical rays coming our ways.

Regarding Alex Collier testimony, he has passed the test of lying detection. He has passed the reverse speech test as well. He is not the only Human on Earth with whom the Andromedans have made contact. And he describe very well the details of each encounters. In the details you can detect if one is making it up or actually describing a real experience.

Among many testimonies who have had encounters with people from outer space, his testimony is impressively detailed about them, their culture, their concern about us. The one testimony that can compares to Alex's is the experience Marshall Vian Summers had and still has today. But Alex experience goes further in the details. On the other hand, Summers teaching is extremly important to face the situation we encounter now.

Both have had contacts with humans from outer space concerned about our situation and where we were heading when they came. They have a great mission to share their experience and did it quite differently. Nevertheless, if you analyse in details their testemony and what they do about it, you can see they are being genuine, which is not the case with some testemonies who claimed to be genuine.

Indredible claim ask for incredible fact, but if you are the one standing in the crowd with this experience to share with only your voice as proof, will you change the version to make it more beleivable? At least, they told him about their homeland.

Namaste, Steven

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Lol Thanks Fred...

I want to believe... that the truth is out there.

I've had a fun year gathering info on many topics. Even saw a couple of impressive videos of bigger than blob UFOs (wish I'd kept the links now)

Handbook for a new paradigm is a good example of this, I've read a lot of it, not all I must admit. And it's great. But I just have a hard time believing it really comes from Pleidians. I'm showing my ignorance on the Ufology subject here I know. BUt I've gained such a lot of experience on discernment in the last year... that I'm beginning to see similarities between a woman in a baseball cap telling me she has evidence that they're going to put us on a bus...and George Green telling me that the pleiadians wrote the whole thing.

I think George Green is one of the most amazing whistleblowers PC have had. he was so right about the financials, and the implications of his other info also far reaching. He seems perfectly normal, nice and even honest.

I followed his interview at the edge of my seat. But did anyone else go , 'Whoah... wait a second?' when he first mentions aliens?

It certainly gives him an otherworldly clout that he otherwise would not have. He says it so matter of factly that it just seems completely true. Yet... well, I don't know is the answer. My gut feel is that there are simpler ways out of the mess that we are in than invoking unseen and unheard powers.

I certainly have hardened my heart a little if , after a year of this, I can watch a woman who's life is possibly in danger and think to myself, 'how much of this is factual and how much her own hypothesising of what may happen?'

K

Guess I'll just wait for the knock on the door. Meanwhile, anyone got any good videos of UFOs I could watch ?