I'm so confused about 2012
 

I just don't know what to do.

On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness.

Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience.

And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis.

I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family.

One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs.

I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along?

Please advise.

Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns.

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What if our destiny is to keep getting recycled back into earth society...whether we are good or bad...or 55% positive or 55% negative...or regardless of the frequency we are vibrating at...or whatever? What if this really is home? What if all human beings and human souls are our brothers and sisters? However, I envision all of us interacting with the rest of the universe when we finally grow up here on earth...and kick the malevolent aliens and entities into deep space.:lightsabre: Is there an exhaustive collection of all the theories concerning 2012? What is the educated concensus regarding what, if anything, is likely to happen in 2012?

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I believe our creator gave us the free will to come here and experience the beauty of this world. There will be plenty of time to experience the ascension. But right here, and right now is the time to create the natural beauty of this world and this life.

Giovonni and I have been sharing some great opera form Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli...it reminds me of the great beauty we can create as humans on this planet.. in this world.
We came here to create...lets start creating what we came here for..the rest will come naturally

Pavarotti....experience it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mLF...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrm...eature=related

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I feel you Carol, but do not despair. Every end is a new beginning.

My understanding and point of resonance with the various materials and sources I follow is that YOU get the choice during the transition (post-ascension) whether to graduate to 4th+ density or to stay in 3rd density. It may not be on this planet or under similar circumstances, but rest assured your evolution will continue like clockwork - and you get to determine the type and level of experience in your next incarnation. There is nothing to fear. All is well. Follow your heart and live every day to its fullest.

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The wave is hear now and individuality is oneness.

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Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension?

Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty.

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amen...pass the butter, please!

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We become the bread and wine that feeds the multitude. Beyond the veil is better then bread and honey, don't you remember.:naughty:

http://freshimagehosting.com/images/...h5shhjo9vm.jpgjust a small taste

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bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too.

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Btw where allready in th 4th density and the frequency is increasing till just one day it wil move instantly to the 5th.

because not everone willing to wake up, they are not goining to survive what's coming.

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:lol3: :wall: Just a little humor Carol i stocked it with bread and the best honey. We love You :wub2:
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Hi Carol,you can add kiitos to your "thank you" list,it is thank you in Finnish,as for your concern of what will happen in 2012 or when our jorney continues in our afterlife,i think we don`t have to do anything to prepare for that,and why i think in those terms is the following:on earth there are billions of people and only a few know or have an idea of what is coming,but what about the rest of the people that live here? Think about it,not many have access to the information that is on the internet,people with no money,computers or who don`t even have the possibility to go to school,they would all be left behind?No i don`t think so,it`s like if it would be "only the elit" is going to graduate,and the rest will be left behind.
I belive that if you are a good person,helpful,loving and think of others(it does not mean you should forget yourself) you are qualified to go on.
We can if we choose to, help people in need,and to do that without the thought"what`s in it for me" but because we feel in our hearts that it is and it feels good to do a good deed.
It`s a everyday thing that we do,keep the door open to old people,to young people,to anybody that needs a helping hand,it can`t be a trip only for the peolpe with knowledge and money for if that is the case, i wouldn`t bother to go,because then it would be the same as it is now, and we would all be in the same **** as we are in today. Don`t worry to much,just be yourself and live your life,do what you feel is right and enjoy your life.
Kari

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Fab thread :trumpet:
i can see myself
riseing above it all .:lol3:
not quite ready to go
yet ,still one slice
short of a loaf !:insane: .
All you need is
bread , bread bread is all
you need ,see i told yer
im barking :hypo: .
happy baking.:wink2:

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Lovely thread...great thoughts.

As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

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Now I do expect you to bring that to Avebury.... what... no alcohol before meditation. Man....

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Hey Carol, by the way, if you read Carl Johan Calleman's "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness", you will have missed the boat if you wait till 2012....it apparently sails with all its enlightened souls on 28th October 2011......

Gather up the garden furniture now!!

Atb, Piers

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Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still.

P.

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2012 will come and go just as we come and go.
What is important is what have we experienced for that is all there is. If looks were important we would all be beautiful, if money was important we would all be rich, if death was an issue we wouldn't die. To evolve to an enlightened being we need to answer any question to be able to do that we must have experienced that situation, honey is just honey until you have tasted it.

We have a conscious that gently and quietly collects our experiences this is the only real part of us and it is the conscious that goes on. So there is no good or bad it is just experience. If there is no good or bad then there can be no real fear.
As for wanting to stay and care for loved ones, giving is the greatest experience (for it was the first experience of all), provided it doesn't restrict the gaining of their experiences, we are all here to learn.

Our conscious is higher connected, follow its guidance and through intuition come 2012 you will know what to do, but for now as mother Teresa said "find someone who is alone and let them know that there not". The real gift is giving its self.

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Might you be of French origin? ;) I'm curious about the Ave pub. The B&B I'll stay at looks peculiar already.

As for staying or going, I'm sure when the time strikes we will know. I wouldn't worry there. Also, when you are of higher dimension, who says you can't visit those left behind?

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If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

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I BET YOU WOULD REALY BE RELIEVED
THINK ABOUT IT DAN NO MORE BIRD
POO , NO MORE LOUNGE , hmmm ,
you could be right , but my telepathic
power tell me ,er, i keep that to myself
i will pm you later i got a better punch line
for yer :wink2:

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I also loved good food good wine ,planing cards with friends and family
solitude in nature ,music and good books and could go on
enjoying those passions probably not ready to let it go of them even
when 100 years old .but then something happened during one meditation
I experienced being Sun radiating ,outpouring tremendous amounts of love
and light i come back sobbing and crying and now can not wait till this is over .

in the mean time praing every day that humanity wake up from the dream
so those on higher dimensions don't have to shake us up to hard
I wish gentle wake up call would suffice .

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We need to get rid of three things for this planet to evolve peacefully. These three things are money, religion, and politics. Until we become independent of money, believe in ourselves as a whole, as one, and be one with nature, and become self governing this planet will never evolve to the next level.

1. Money means materialistic things, which should be last on the list, and money brings wars due to greed and opportunity.

2.Religion has killed more people than all the wars put together and is a brainwashing institution.

3. Politics turns us into sheep and follow those who are in charge, when no group should be in charge, we should be in charge of ourselves and be responsible for ourselves and our actions which we aren't ready to do yet because our level of spirituality is not there yet, not to mention how many wars are due to political BS.

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what you resist persist
we can not get rid of anything ,the state of this planet reflects
our state of collective consciousness with one belief playing major
role " that we are separate from each other and universe "
only if we believe that to be true the masses can be controlled
economically and consequently politically by elites ,and only if elites
believe the same they can conceive and execute those plans of population control (wars famine disses ) not knowing they are doing it to themself
inspired by higher densities STS .

so once the wisdom that we are One is accepted by all everythig else
(economical exploitation ,violence ) will disappear like bad dream
which it is .

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I saw his presentation so am aware of the October date. I would want to take all our animals.. the chickens, horses, dog, cats.. because I would want them to be well cared for and not abandoned.

The galactive wave will transform consciousness as it ushers in the golden age. The key is what does one do once enlightened? Even the buddist story is to chop wood, carry water and take care of one's rice bowl.

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This is "innocence"... Carol, expressing your vulnerability, confusion, humility.... of what might be, to profess it out loud. Myself? Having read other's works, from all angles for a long time... I realized that all I can do is trust the process of life. Next thought is "do the next right thing"... but know what? The simple reality is that we don't always do what is best & right for ourselves... most of us, including myself, sometimes grope thru the day trying not to think too much.

I love bread & butter as much as anyone, but some days it's a chore having to decide what to eat... it's a time consuming matter feeding & dressing this body each & every day.... I mean, to eat right takes planning.

What's it all about Alfie??? Who really knows? One professes this, another that... they are all beliefs along w/incredible exposures.... blah blah, I can become as overwhelmed as the next guy! But I do love the entertainment value....is why I check in here along w/chancing across some deeper insight.

Meanwhile, I love to learn & can't stop LOOKING in at things... I marvel at the brilliance of other people! And I too, realize how lost & ignorant we all are at times!

I think that many are confused for good reason... and that it's a prompt to recognize just how grounded you are, what your convictions & values are... to differentiate between what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE...the latter will get you in trouble for it is static, not dynamic. The question might be: IS there an Actuality vs Reality? I see a differentiation.

I've always been sort of ****** off at "god" since a small child, ONLY because I thought it was a chitty thing that we have to die in this life which IS a mystery. Truly I don't think it's worth it to live a snapshot life seeing how time just flies... and then to face the reality that you will die, hmmm... in this time, either by heart disease, cancer, war, starvation, etc... you get my drift.. it isn't a pleasant ending here.

What has my 'goat' is the deceptive nature of this life... we have surely been lied to, that is a FACT... and bottom line, even w/technology, internet, etc... we are left feeling utterly responsible (& well we are!)...because we didn't get to the bottom of things fast enough... AND, not only that, but it seems (the conspiracy threads, the "insiders" et al) it's not even Possible to get to the bottom of things.. there is NO way anymore to verify anything!!!

THUS I'm left w/trusting the process of life, be that what it is... that is where I am... I surrender to the process of life and it's quite satisfying to do so, meanwhile I utililize best I can what it is that I think I know.

As a young person, I noticed that the elder ones looked sad and worn out, now I'm approaching 57 and I'm beginning to look that way .... know why??? because Life seems so serious and I'm just as confused as you are Carol. I think as women, we carry the burden of the world sometimes.

I'm pretty sure it's hardwired into us to fear the ultimate demise... that of LOSS, Bodily Death... however, this loss also points out the value of not having attachments.... but our minds? our souls? we do not want to lose what we've learned...

I try to stay away from beliefs... I do regret, however, that I did not heed the message to invest and live more self reliant, off the grid, solar power etc... but, then again, I lived paycheck to paycheck just as most do... to survive.

It's a terrible vulnerability Carol... so, I do HEAR you...

It's a beautiful day today, even after a severe ice storm here in NW Arkansas... the sun melted everthing, the deer are outside the window, dinner is cooking thanks to the generator... and the forest looks devastated... so many trees crashed all around our home, but not one hit the house... amazing as it's probably the worst ice storm in 30 yrs.

Heartfelts

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Thank you for your thoughts EpiphaMe.

Having seen and experienced the other side consciously it does have its lure and for a long time I would have preferred to be there then here. Then a decision was made to stay and help the ones I love. So being here, staying is really an act of self-sacrifice at a deep spiritual level. I had a vision.. saw the future of what would happen to my family if I were not here. It became clear to me that irrespective of my personal self-centered feelings, there were other past life considerations to take into account with this life. We adopted a child who is now 12 and she is no where near ready for any type of transition.

I'm also aware that if my husband was not here I would be ready to go in a heart beat only because life would seem so overwhelmingly for just one person to do what we do as a team. Yet, what others don't know is just how many peoples lives are affected by the work he does and the many past life commitments he made this time to help others during their transitions. We are a team, partners, soul mates. Our lives are much bigger then who we are as individuals and our commitment to others goes beyond our own personal desires. It is because we are together that our personal journey is much easier.. even though we do have our own individual challenges which must be dealt with sharing the load with another makes it fun for the most part.

Yet, I will share another experience. There was an ET contact once where hive mind was experienced. It really was quite amazing and one never feels alone when connected at this particular level with this particular group. However, it also became evident that this particular group did not know Divine Christ Consciousness and connectedness that can be experienced throughout the core of ones beingness. As much as I truly enjoyed the "hive" connection.. I wanted to be back in my own psyche space with myself. I truly am enjoying this experience of individuality as it is also unique and quite fulfilling in its own way. As my inner core is at peace, for the most part this experience of ones own conscious awareness is satisfying and feeds another different type of inner need and desire.

I been making observations about other's energy these past many months. For instance, this one person I observed was very angry and his energy created much chaos for many people. His negative energy was like a bad virus affecting many people and then those people's families. Energy.. toxic or healing. It is a choice after all.

So back to my confusion. I was thinking about how on one hand we are preparing for an off-grid living condition as a very possible situation with future sun activity. And then I was thinking of the different meditation experiments where we work as one to alter the future. I was also thinking of the galactic wave . And then I was thinking of how perfect a day it was weather wise and energy wise yesterday and just how grateful I was for this life and these experiences.

I was so enjoying what is was to be an individual just being productive and getting stuff done.. particularly sitting on the mower and mowing 4 acres with the air, the clouds and the beauty all around. It truly was a perfect moment in time and something to relish. I will take these experience back with me to the other side and share with my mates who stayed behind as after all, it is my sense that we are the Davy Crocket souls experiencing life on this earth.

My dilemma had more to do with wondering if I truly wanted to leave, "forever" this dimension and the gifts it offers.

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If you want my opinion Carol I think its all POPPYCOCK!!

The idea is that you've got all these Souls...some already dead, some still alive. The dead ones (Souls that is) are advised that they better Hang Out (until 2012) before they go down the tunnel of Light as the Dark Ones are trying to trap them so that they don't get the benefit of the Super Galactic Cosmic Wash whereas the ones that are still alive get bumped off exactly at the time when the Superwave hits Earth. So all these Souls (who are hanging out) are extraordinarly lucky as Lo and Behold a window opens in the Cosmic fabric of time and Everyone gets to step through the Exit (except those who have decided to choose Hell on Earth for another lifetime) into a transcendent consciousness of Being and Oneness. All of these Souls are advised they better do it now or they will have to wait another 26,000 years.
I have never heard such a load of "Crock" in my Life!!

Can you imagine the Creator proposing this scenario for Mankind?

I'd say Carol don't worry...everything will turn out the way it is meant to be...and as for your chance of a Lifetime albeit 26,000 years...Poppycock!!
The only thing that is important is that you have left Love in the Hearts of those who remember you.:wub2:
_______________________________________________
The End is the Beginning...and the Beginning is Now....Yours Truly

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According to the Vedas, which I began reading back in the 70s we are nearing the end of the Kali Yuga phase of creation. Each of the four phases are representative of the legs of an elephant and this age is representative of the last leg standing until the golden age is ushered in, an age of great spiritual enlightenment where all four legs are once again planted.

"According to the Hindu tradition of cosmology, we are now nearing
the end of the Kali Yuga (the Age of Iron) which is the final and
most negative of four evolutionary Yugic cycles.


Each Yuga is like the season of a super-cosmic year, even greater
than the cosmic year of the precession of the equinoxes. When the
Earth came into its current phase of manifestation and the first
Yuga began ('Satya' Yuga, meaning 'Purity') humanity was barely
removed from its original state of God-like innocence. This was
the original Golden Age. As time progressed the planet underwent
the influence of a negative descending spiral, and the quality of
life in each successive Yuga became further and further removed
from the knowledge of truth and natural Law (in other words,
'Reality'). In the second, Treta Yuga (Silver Age) spiritual
awareness decreased by one fourth and by the time of Dvapara Yuga
(Copper Age) negativity had a 50% holding. In the Kali Yuga the
vibration has become pretty murky and humanity is labouring
against heavy odds. Righteousness (right-use-ness) has diminished
to scant one fourth of its original strength. Throughout our
current history we have created and been assailed by all the evils
of Pandora's box. No wonder the human race is having such a
difficult time. But the turning point has now arrived, and the
dawn once more sheds its light on a confused and ignorant planet.

The Vishnu Purana, one of the oldest sacred texts of India says
about the Kali Yuga, "The leaders who rule over the Earth will be
violent and seize the goods of their subjects... Those with
possessions will abandon agriculture and commerce and will live as
servants, that is, following various possessions. The leaders,
with the excuses of fiscal need, will rob and despoil their
subjects and take away private property. Moral values and the rule
of the law will lessen from day to day until the world will be
completely perverted and agnosticism will gain the day among men."

There are many other references to this division of time. For
instance, in the Bible, Nebuchandnezzar's dream (Daniel 2:31-45)
was of a bright and terrible image with a head of finest gold,
chest of silver, hips of brass and legs of iron. The feet and toes
were of iron mixed with clay. This image was destroyed by stone,
unmade by human hands, which crushed the feet to dust and the
pieces blew away in the wind. Although Daniel the prophet
interpreted the various metals as the world empires which
succeeded Babylon, the dream also has a more cosmic meaning. It
represents the great yugas. The iron legs are the Iron Age or Kali
Yuga which deteriorates at the end of its cycle into the present
unstable civilisation symbolised by the feet of iron and clay. The
prophet interpreted the stone as the true kingdom of God which
would replace the other civilisations as the real and lasting
Kingdom.


THE END OF A WORLD


This end only appears to be the "end of the world," without any
reservation or specification of any kind, to those who see nothing
beyond the limits of this particular cycle; a very excusable error
of perspective it is true, but one that has nonetheless some
regrettable consequences in the excessive and unjustified terrors
to which it gives rise in people who are not sufficiently detached
from terrestrial existence; and naturally they are the very people
who form this erroneous conception most easily, just because of
the narrowness of their point of view. ...the end now under
consideration is undeniably of considerably greater importance
than many other, for it is the end of a whole Manvantara, and so
of the temporal existence of what may rightly be called a
humanity, but this, it must be said once more, in no way implies
that it is the end of the terrestrial world itself, because,
through the "reinstatement" that takes place at the final instant,
this end will itself immediately become the beginning of another
Manvantara...if one does not stop short of the most profound order
of reality, it can be said in all truth the "end of a world" never
is and never can be anything but the end of an illusion."


Excerpted from Rene Guenon's The Reign of Quantity and The Signs of the
Times.

3rd dimension consists of a world experience of parallel dichotomies where one is given a choices when faced with various situations. These choices shapes ones life and experiences. To live during Kali Yuga is a tremendous opportunity for spiritual growth and development as one is immersed in a sea of negativity given the level of corruption that surrounds one on a day-to-day basis. If one chooses wisely, indeed, by wise choices, there is an opportunity for the soul to progress to higher dimensions and perhaps into this other multi-verse. Who is to say how the Spiritual Masters operate at these levels and who is to say what is true or what is not true when it comes to dealing with elements that transcend the average ego and its attachments to what is known and what is of the third dimension. After all, the ego is a 3rd dimension construct necessary for interfacing with the basic nature of duality. Those who have had the experiences of transcending duality and actuality experiencing conscious awareness in other spiritual dimensions know from first hand personal experience that the duality paradigm collapses in these upper spiritual levels.

The galactic wave is an event that has been written about in ancient texts and it tells of changes to human consciousness and the earth as the result of its influence. We can read and attempt to interpret ancient texts and scriptures to sort out what is on the horizon, yet like the allegory of those who dwell in the cave, and the person who escaped and came back to tell the tale of a world in sunlight and under a night sky was ridiculed and chastised. Those who have always lived in the cave can only guess what this new environment might be and to imagine something more often times is very frightening as often times folks don't like change.

To be confused about 2012 is understandable as there is a lot of data surfacing now from a variety of sources attempting to explain what this transition is really about. However, the ETs, which are here to help perhaps may have a greater insight into this horizon event then those of us who are ignorant and uninspired, may have a much more comprehensive view of what is to come then most.

From my observations, most folks operated from belief, as compared to real experience, as real expereince often takes years and years to get under one's belt in a single life. Yet we know, scientific fact these days, that cellular memory exists which stretches back lifetimes and this information can be accessed through past-life regression. Having had one patient who came in for therapy with a phobia which was triggered by some police self-defense training when anyone when for her throat, she would become hysterical. She had no history of trauma in this life and couldn't sort out for herself what was going on. In doing hypnosis with her she was asked to go back to the beginning of this fear and to describe where she was and what happened. She was in another life and had been strangled by a lover when she told him she was pregnant. During the hypnosis session she became extremely despondent and was weeping. After the session she never again experienced the irrational fear she had while training and that releasing the memory freed her of some emotional trauma that was carried over from this other life. This case is just one of many... the others being documented by qualified medical people who are also trained in hypnosis and who do past-life regression therapy.

I bring this up to illustrate the eternal journey of the soul and how one goes from one life to the next sometimes carrying baggage to be dealt which in the current life... or not.

I also bring this up to illustrate that there are elements to the working of spiritual growth and development that is known to only a handful of spiritual Masters, if that many at all. We know this galactic wave is coming but we do not know how it will manifest itself in this age. We also know that thought are things and that by learning how to control our thoughts we can both shape our destiny and the destiny of this planet. We also know that by combining our collective energy we can affect outcomes... both in the past and in the future.. this too has been scientifically proven. Therefore, the efforts for spiritual growth at this time are greatly enhanced and our own personal striving is noted at multiple seen and unseen levels.

You may want to read Dr. Charles Tramont new book. He received his M.D. at New York Medical College in 1962 and had a successful career of thirty-two years. In addition to his prominent medical career, he also achieved the rank of Colonel in the United States Air Force, serving in the Vietnam War and Operation Desert Storm. At present, Dr. Tramont devotes his life to the research and practice of healing through hypnotherapy. www.hypnoregression.com

He did an excellent job describing some of the medical testimony pertaining to cellular memory and he also sited some very interesting cases of split souls, walk ins, ETs and such. If one is choosing to becoming educated on this topic it helps to get information from a very down to earth credible source.

Poppycock. I think not.

However, like many who have been studying this area of research over the years, as time goes by more questions are raised then answered. One is often finding one puzzle piece to pop into the picture only to find ten more pieces missing. I've no idea what is actually going to happen when this galactic wave hits other then that consciousness will be elevated. I suspect that instead of having to spend numerous years in meditation and spiritual practice.. that the masses will get a spiritual boost of spiritual reality of what it means to be an interdimensional being in a human body. For now, this experience is often present for those who have NDE or OBE. However, they are readily available to those who pursue various spiritual practices and is very well know to spiritual masters and also written about in the Upanishads which are Hindu scriptures that constitute the core teachings of Vedanta.

The goal of Sant Mat is non-attachment to ego or things other then meditation. One is to focus on a scientific methodology for transcending ego mind and ascending into upper spiritual dimensions where one meets the master and is further instructed at that level.

Now back to reality. How many people with children in grammar school feel the need to transcend ordinary life and serve only self? When a man or a woman becomes a parent they often experience a love that also transcend ordinary relationships because this is an opportunity to truly become self-less and devote ones life to the protection and upliftment of another. This is a unique experience and not one to be taken lightly. So when I express confusion about this upcoming event it also means i have yet to sort out how to prepare my daughter. As she sees this, 2012 is an apocalyptic event which signifies the end of the world and that she will die. It doesn't matter what I have to say.. as this is an exceptionally intelligent being filled with fear and trepidation through prejudging an event she knows little about.

We know that the goal here is to develop one's own relationship with god yet this child is struggling as she believes god is responsible for the death of her pets and is still in the blame phase or thinking she is being punished for something. This is her internal experience and it is clear to me she has a ways to go... meaning mature. My own confusion revolves around a commitment I made when taking this responsibility on as a parent and in doing so also choosing to put her needs above my own personal desires as it is my inner sense that this is the right thing to do.

So.. like many others I'm trying to sort out for myself the chaff from the wheat and attempting to make choices which will 'hopefully' protect and benefit my family during these upcoming changes. These are both physical and spiritual challenges that are presented to us and worth considering when determining how best to move forward.

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Hi Carol - IMO, this life is a gift. It would be rude to let it go by, without enjoying food, play, love, happiness, creation - so yes! beauty & music - while being wary in the grey zone; 2012's too far away for me!

By the way, I know what you mean about the house. You should have seen mine when I was in the throes of Avalonia/basement flood a while back. Sheer madness, a descent to disorder that I have never before witnessed (same for the kids, pets). A youngster visited, one half yrs, and was paralyzed at the front door with thousands of unsafe options (whew!!!) - absolute immobility. After a few moments, he tipped backwards with the state of affairs.... (whew again)... I actually wondered why his mom was frantically picking up for a bit, before I got it - only because she told me (I asked why, oops), but his paralysis/ gave her the extra minutes. Luckily, she loves me.

:original: (in my oblivion)

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[Please note: All intuitive messages come with the standard, take it or leave it disclaimer - discrimination is mandatory]

Carol,

You have a mission. Your confusion exists because you have not conciously become aware of it yet, however the talents that you have developed over this lifetime so far are all essential to your effectiveness in your leadership role for what is to come.

Oh, and yes, you do need to meditate more :)

All,

The only thing that is going to happen "in the blink of an eye" is the passing of the energy peak which will result in a consciousness boost for all living at that moment. This is the line in the sand. After that point, for the earth, no more pure 3D incarnation will be possible. People forget that the ascension is mainly about the Earth, we are merely in attendance and deriving huge opportunities for self development and service.

The time of sorting between the pathways appropriate for each person comes when they die during these times. If you died tomorrow, your personal harvest has come. Death may come to many nearer 2012, depending on how we humans conduct ourselves during these remaining moments.

Life may get a bit interesting nearer the time, and it will be for the ones who have trained and prepared materially for, and prepared themselves spiritually for the tasks ahead who will be guided to lead the rest of the survivors into a golden age on Earth

Yours intuitively,

A..

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I really appreciate the interpretations that go down here regarding 2012. Keep it going!

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I just had this stray thought. What if all that info that has been downloaded into us also via so-called junk DNA gets triggered by this galactic wave? Then what? It would seem such a terrible waste to vacate the planet just when one knows what to do to help it recover.

And then there is the Buddhist philosophy to stay until all souls are liberated. Many of my past life recalls are of being a zen monk so there may be that possibility, that underlying intent, unconsciously at work as well.

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It is one continuous adventure!

We are just entering the 4th dimension, and about to experience a New Universe. It is the same planet, but many things will have changed.

From the The Light of Emmanuel, Explorations into Oneness, by ANANDA, published 1991.

We have been told repeatedly from an equally deep source that the children growing up today may anticipate a refreshed world, a world in which they may express in a more joyful manner, and that we may become golden beings as we express from a more joyous point of view, right here on this Earth.

Share this joyous anticipation with your daughter. The earth is not disappearing, just freshening up a little.

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I agree with you. It is possible to fall into a 'master-race' trap where only the 'special-people' make it. While I believe in the pursuit of the highest ethical and spiritual levels...this should be for the elevation of the entire human-race...not just ME! From my religious upbringing...there is a quote which I have been unable to forget: 'Those whom Christ commends in the judgment may have known little of theology, but they have cherished His principles. Through the influence of the divine Spirit they have been a blessing to those about them. Even among the heathen are those who have cherished the spirit of kindness; before the words of life had fallen upon their ears, they have befriended the missionaries, even ministering to them at the peril of their own lives. Among the heathen are those who worship God ignorantly, those to whom the light is never brought by human instrumentality, yet they will not perish. Though ignorant of the written law of God, they have heard His voice speaking to them in nature, and have done the things that the law required. Their works are evidence that the Holy Spirit has touched their hearts, and they are recognized as the children of God. How surprised and gladdened will be the lowly among the nations, and among the heathen, to hear from the lips of the Saviour, "Inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me." How glad will be the heart of Infinite Love as His followers look up with surprise and joy at His words of approval!'--Desire of Ages, pg. 686 by Ellen White.