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Re: Camelot Clay and Shawn Pickering Audio Interview

Last night I listened to the interview & I really, really enjoyed what I was hearing.

Most important quote: "There will be disclosure, when contact is imminent."

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My 2 cents on this topic since a few of you mentioned them in this discussion. The beings that people refer to as the "praying mantis"-like entities are known as the Aethien as I understand it. More info here in the Keylontic Dictionary online...

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Aethien:

The Aethien are not organic to your three-dimensional frequency band (see: HU) nor they are from parallel or adjacent Earths. Rather they originate from galaxies existing within the dimensions of adjacent Earths, which places them in our interdimensional/extraterrestrial category.

They represent a species superior to that of the Zeta, and come as emissaries of peace and growth toward brotherhood of all species.

Often appearing with the Zeta are the tall skeletal-like beings that upon closer inspection resemble in structure your earthly preying mantis insect.

These being are usually whitish or golden in color and can stand up to twelve feet tall.

The Aethien always work as teachers.

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Hi again Seashore.... The technoligy you talk about , like the 'superstition' end or the black magic ritualistic stuff are interconnected... I think it goes somthing like this....
It is all based on vibration. Mater is vibrating atoms and the speed at which they vibrate, gives form and the apperance of different structures of these groups of vibrating atoms.. Consciousness is what decides the speed of the vibration..
Vibrtaing waves emited from our DNA caused by emotion and the subsequent release of hormones connected to that emotion, also effect the attoms around that wave and attract similer vibrations and waves...

So energy and vibration can have a knock on effect or a magnetic effect...
with technolagy they can create waves and vibrations and manipulate atoms ,light, consciousness, and trancend some dimentions and attract other similer vibrations which influences events and emotions andt thoughts...
If they have supper computers, Muntalk chairs, technical man made stargates and devices that alter the brains waves and down load things in to your sub conscious or direct conscious it is all what some would discribe as magic
putting curses on people and causing bad things to happen is a build up of negitive enrgy or blocked energy, with powerfull mall intent and the knowledge of how use the force, so to speak, it becomes black magic. Or were there is intent to manipulate or harm...

Some people have learned to affect waves abd vibreations at will and certain cerimonies amplify their intent and vibrational output.
Blood is very important in a lot of ritual magic as it is firstly water (Look at the effect the moon alone has on water) and then steeped with DNA, Hormones and all metals and minerals... which are easily influenced by vibration and can act as energy transmittoers and receptors as well as antena's, magnets, interdimentional portals and much more, as well as basic energy based message transferal systems

Whether a person uses technolagy or their own biological and astral capabilities... to manipulate mater,light, vibration, time amd space , to me it's all the same... but this is only my interpritation ,I'm not sure if I've made any sense to you...

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Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 191141)

Hi again Seashore.... The technoligy you talk about , like the 'superstition' end or the black magic ritualistic stuff are interconnected... I think it goes somthing like this....

Antonia,

This is fantastic!! Very helpful. Thank you so much. I think I get it...

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Great ... Seashore... I still think, if Clay and Shawn are telling the truth and or their source is telling it likw it is... that these beings sound like beings that live on Stars and not planets... They are made of the same stuff as the Sun, like salamaders or sprites...etc..

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My question about these beings is why would they need a spaceship with observation decks???

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I am half way through the interview the interview right now (which is very informative) but I am struck at how RUDE Kerry is being with these guys!

Its unbelievable. Instead of thanking them for their volunteered work, she is belittling
their research abilities and going on and on at how their info isn't really of any value. Frankly, I am embarrassed for her!

I guess we all have bad days...

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Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 191801)

but I am struck at how RUDE Kerry is being with these guys

There is nothing rude in how Kerry is performing this interview.

One can either be direct and "confronting" with the same amount or even more respect than someone trying everyone to like him/her - mediocrity.

As I like to say to people: show me your true face and I will respect you more than if you play nice just for me to "like you"

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I also thought that Kerry and Bill did a great job with this interview. I can only imagine what it would be like to sit there and do this interview and not really find out much of anything that is of use to assist us at this time. That interview was at least 3 hours long and it was well done. What I think could be considered rude here is that Kerry and Bill were dragged down a road that lasted almost 4 hours and came up with what exactly? What did we learn? Just that there is another alien agenda out there. What is new about that? So what if the aliens are based in silicon? Aliens come in all kinds of forms. Nothing new there. The only thing I got was that maybe something of value might be forthcoming and that is only a possibility. Do you need to waste 4 hours of tape and everyone's time to establish that? I know that Kerry and Bill have heard so much in terms of possible stories and agendas being put out there and then having to weed the ones that might have some credibility. Sounds like an overwhelming job just to do that. I can appreciate what both of them are trying to do and that is bearing some kind of validation with integrity. That is more important than one's feelings as to how it is being done. There is way more going on here than just emotions. This isn't tell a vision. This is about a real agenda going on here and with a cliff hanger. We should be asking more questions. The agenda isn't very clear here. But there has to be one if these crystalline forms are here. And my flags go up any time I hear about Reptilians. And they're mixed up with this group? Where's the "show me" attitude? This is just another part of the puzzle. Enough said.

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First of all, OBVIOUSLY good journalism requires being abrasive from time to time. I am not talking about "feelings" I am talking about a certain level of respect. Has she ever treated any of the other interviewees like that when they were vague? Bob Dean? Miriam Delicado? Let me answer that for you, No.

Even the Greer debate, (although slightly unprofessional), was never discourteous in tone.

Secondly, like you said, Lionhawk, everyone only has a piece of the puzzle. There is no one definitive interview on PC. That is all these guys were offering. Take it or leave it. If Kerry didn't find it very informative, then she shouldn't have posted it.

(Bill, however, was asking insightful questions, as usual).

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Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 191831)

First of all, OBVIOUSLY good journalism requires being abrasive from time to time. I am not talking about "feelings" I am talking about a certain level of respect.

I get queasy often, too. I try to accept it as Kerryisms. I try to glean some of the interview content from discussions on this forum, instead of listening to a lot of the interviews.

Also, kind of pressed for time, so 3+ hours is a LONG time!!

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Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 191141)

I think this is a brilliant description, Antonia -. So is the blood sacrifice post. I think people are tuning into these capabilities and feelings (it's what unites us to each other, the blood stories good and bad), which also is why 'vampirism' is hitting mass consciousness in popularity - there is a delicate play of the body's electrical abilities and its mind. There's even a vampire Barbie!

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Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 191801)

I think that Kerry has recently improved her journalistic skills in asking pertinent, tough questions and not allowing the interviewee to almost answer the question but not quite.

I think she demonstrated a passion for the truth and a responsible approach to handling second-hand information put forth by sources who are not on the inside themselves.

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 189951)

Is there really any proof of reptilians eating people?

Ha, ha, ha, good question! In one of my hubby's sessions he processed an incident where on another planet he was a reptilian raping and pillaging and occasionally eating the brains of humans as if they were delicious delicacies.

The humans finally managed to subdue him and I'm sure on some planet there is a legend about my sweet hubby the rapacious reptilian and their very own dragon slayer. That's the truth :-)

blessings,
gnosis

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I read your post with great interest. I'm not sure what "esoteric arts" are but have a feeling I did some of that in other lifetimes, sometimes in the negative direction too. It is an understatement to say I still have a long way to go.

Gnosis

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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity (Post 190534)

Defending yourself or attacking the negative forces is not about muscle power, but rather spirit power. Ever wonder why the Catholic church demonized the wise ones, "Witta" commonly now called "witches"? It is a primary lesson of witches to learn how to control their own energy, how to visualize to thus create above and manifest below.

Few are interested in learning the esoteric arts. I have devoted my life to learning them and mastering them. Is one ever a true master? I doubt it, for there is always another area to focus upon and learn. Few can truly meditate, ground, and center themselves to be in a positive detached and unconditionally loving state. For every spiritual truth there is a counterfeit. How do you know what one you are being presented to learn? That is where the gift of discernment and walking in the true light of the creator comes into play. Be assured that the counterfeit path feels great, looks great, and yet has a slightly off energetic taste to it. You won't recognize the poisonous taste if you have not developed the taste of the true path, and yet therein lies a dilemma. Just talking about a "right" path makes most people's flags go up and hear an internal voice saying, "Warning Will Robinson, Warning". I do not discount that internal voice for it is only with much searching, time spent in prayer / meditation / contemplation that one can know the right path. In my experience, it is not a path that says you have to do things one certain way, but more to the point, it is about where that path is heading.

Does this action free the soul? Does this path lead to more openness and spiritual evolution? Does the outcome of what you are doing lead you into darkness and negative energy personally? Only you can know those answers.

I do know that the entities on the negative path cannot stand true higher vibrational energy. They cannot travel into the upper astral realms, and that is where you need to reside spiritually. Yes, we are in 3d bodies, but spiritually we choose where to walk in astral or 3d. 3d is very low vibrational energy. Lower astral is full of negative energy, and if you want to become a true light warrior you have to learn to reside on a higher level and not get sucked via 3d emotions both high or low (happy or sad/fearful), but rather in a contented state of being that does not become attached to the things of this world. That is much more easily said than done. It is something most mystics work years to attain. Often they leave society because it is just to hard to be an active part of this world and not get sucked into 3d living and emotions. Being detached is not about not caring. It is done with the highest level of love for all souls, and seeking truth no matter what one's pre-conceived beliefs are. In that state of being one can respond to situations and circumstances rather than react. The negative entities rely on the fact that mankind does act like animals and react to situations in pre-determined ways. Stop being a programmed 3d animal.

Much love and respect,

Unified Serenity

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Because this is my field of "technology" it always seems a huge outpoint to me that none of these ETs talk about spiritual clearing technologies, or are offering up any emotional healing or spiritual psychotechnologies that would actually help us become a more balanced species which they keep preaching to us. One thing we don't need is another ET religion or cult figure.

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(rec'd in my email)

U.S. military is liaising with extraterrestrial life according to independent sources
December 28, 11:45
Michael Salla, Ph.D.

President Obama and VP Biden with Joint Chiefs of Staff. AP PhotoIndependent sources have claimed an on-going set of face-to-face meetings between U.S. military officials and extraterrestrial life. The sources reveal that senior U.S. Navy officers have played a leading role in an inter-services working group responsible for the meetings, and that different extraterrestrial groups are allegedly involved. One source claims that the contact involves extraterrestrial groups known as Reptilians, and a silicon based life form dubbed ‘the Conformers’. Another source claims that the extraterrestrials are called Ebens from the Zeta Reticuli star system, but known colloquially as the Grays. A third source claims that human looking extraterrestrials representing an association of star nations are liaising with military officials. Two of the sources have been interviewed by this writer who has been aware of their claims for more than a year, and finds them credible. The similarities in these independent reports gives reason to conclude that an ongoing program of secret meetings involving senior military personal from the U.S. Navy and other military services with one or more extraterrestrial civilizations is underway.

One source claiming to have participated in face-to-face meetings is a serving U.S. Navy officer that in February 2008 revealed the existence of a confidential set of meetings at the UN where UFOs and extraterrestrial life were discussed. Known as Source A, the Navy officer claims that he was sanctioned by a working group comprising a number of admirals to disclose the UN talks without revealing his identity. In June 2008, Source A claims he was assigned to another project that involved direct meetings with two groups of extraterrestrials in a covert project where he was sanctioned to board their spacecraft on three different occasions. One group is a Reptilian looking species, and another is a silicon based life form he dubbed the ‘Conformers’.

This author and a number of other researchers have met with and interviewed Source A, and have been able to confirm that he is a serving U.S. Navy officer. Recently, two New York based UFO investigators, Clay and Shawn Pickering, gave a three hour interview concerning Source A’s involvement in a covert project involving face-to-face meetings with extraterrestrial life. They revealed that a covert inter-services working group has attempted to brief President Obama about the extraterrestrial liaison project. Given Source A’s identity and unlikelihood that more senior U.S. Navy officials would sanction a serving officer to openly misinform the general public over extraterrestrial life, there is reason to take his claims of participating in a covert project involving face-to-face meetings very seriously.

An anonymous source associated with the Defense Intelligence Agency recently claimed that military officials on November 12, 2009, met with extraterrestrials called Ebens, from the Zeta Reticula star system, on Akau Atoll in the Johnston Islands. The alleged meeting was part of an ongoing set of diplomatic discussions and exchanges that date several decades. The information was the latest installment related to an alleged classified project called Serpo, a secret exchange program with extraterrestrial visitors from Zeta Reticulum. According to Victor Martinez, who maintains a large email list where he distributes Project Serpo reports released to him by ‘anonymous’:

… the Ebens met on Akau Island with a total of 18 representatives from the U.S., United Nations, Russia, China, the Vatican and certain other guests. U.S. representatives are said to have included five military personnel, two intelligence officers, one linguist and one person representing the Obama administration.

The Johnston Islands are a U.S. territory and lie 750 miles south west of Honolulu. That places the Islands directly under the military authority of Pacific Command that historically has been run by the U.S. Navy. Although the latest Project Serpo release does not identify the service of the five military personnel at the alleged meeting, the choice of Johnston Atoll suggests a leading role for U.S. Navy officials in the latest face-to-face meeting.

The Serpo story raises considerable controversy with many inconsistencies in the claims of the sources revealing the Serpo information. Nevertheless, there are many events revealed in the Serpo story that are very likely based on real events such as President Reagan being secretly briefed at some point about extraterrestrial life. A number of Reagan’s public statements are circumstantial evidence that he did receive such a briefing. An alleged transcript of the briefing was released as part of the Serpo material in November 2007. This author’s assessment is that the Serpo releases mix real events with fiction in an officially sanctioned acclimation program. While the Serpo material requires much discernment given the level of disinformation in it, it is very likely that it accurately reveals the existence of secret military meetings with extraterrestrials, but mixes this with contrived details. The implicit leading role of the U.S. Navy in the alleged Akau meeting is consistent with the revelations of Source A.

The third and final anonymous source has revealed face-to-face meetings between U.S. military officials and human looking representatives of extraterrestrial civilizations. Again officers from the U.S. Navy are described as playing an active role, and are deeply involved in promoting public disclosure of the existence of extraterrestrial life. What distinguishes this alleged set of military meetings with extraterrestrials is that according to the source, the meetings were convened due to distrust over the way a covert international control group initially called “MJ-12” ” (current name unknown), has been managing information and technology concerning extraterrestrial life. The various military representatives were apparently shocked over the extent to which “MJ-12” has deceived them in oversight and management of extraterrestrial affairs.

In conclusion, there is very real dissatisfaction in the U.S. military, especially officers from the Navy, over the way in which extraterrestrial affairs has been secretly run and managed by a covert transnational group initially known as “MJ-12. The dissatisfaction can be traced back to an incident involving a Vice-Admiral serving as the head of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff who was denied access to a covert extraterrestrial related project under corporate control. The incident was in June 2008 publicly revealed on Larry King Live by former Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell (see video clip). Since at least 1997, groups of U.S. Navy officers through covert inter-service working groups have been trying to restore military/government oversight over extraterrestrial affairs that has been increasingly privatized in the corporate world.

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Thought i would add some missing links from that very fine article Susan provided:original:

Three hour interview concerning Source A’s involvement in a covert project involving face-to-face meetings with extraterrestrial life.
http://projectcamelot.org/Clay_and_S...ember_2009.mp3

The dissatisfaction can be traced back to an incident involving a Vice-Admiral serving as the head of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff who was denied access to a covert extraterrestrial related project under corporate control. The incident was in June 2008 publicly revealed on Larry King Live by former Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell (see video clip). =>

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Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 189987)

You're familiar with Duncan Cameron, Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols and their claims? I am very interested in your perspective. For sure, the story is bizarre. I'm interested in what parts you think are untrue.

Bizarre is not the right term for it - it's a blatant lie.

Al Bielek (his full name is Alfred Bielek) was proven to be a liar and hoaxer already in 2003. Wondering, why people still refer to his utter nonsense, maybe because his bedtime stories are popping up time after time.
See http://www.bielek-debunked.com
for a full report about him lying.

Best regards,

Golf Sierra