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Have you not read the original post within this thread...?? It's neither copy or pasted!!! ... MY WORDS. If you haven't read it please do. As to what we know or believe might happen. I don't think there is a single person on this planet who could honestly say they know exactly what will happen...this is why we are all here to learn truths and pick up knowledge from each other. There are many ideas floating around and we are picking up pieces and trying connect the dots. If you have any input with reagrds to this topic please share. viking |
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Thanks Yiolas .... and Boudy thank for the Piccie...
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I will say that my friends think I am a psychic, medium, whatever you wish to call it. I don't like to use those terms because they are too limited in definition. I will make my own "prediction" for what it's worth. (Needles to say I don't make any money at this.) 1st...2012 is not the right date. It's off, it's wrong. Nothing will happen on dec 23 2012. It might snow in NYS but that's about it. 2nd...sorry but there is no "enlightenment" coming. No ascension and no horrific chaotic event to mark the end of the world either. No magical being from another planet will come down to earth and make those "worthy" ascend to a higher level. "Ascension" can only be accomplished by the individual and no single date will make that happen. It takes thousands of years for a "soul" to ascend to that level. 3rd...there are a number of "outside" issues going on. Earth has just become a cross roads on a galactic scale. The method of space travel is based on a simple yet effective string theory. Kind of like a rail road system. It's already in place and these "strings" connect like rail roads or highways. A main road has been lost. It collapsed, broke, whatever you want to call it. Now the next main "roadway" goes right through earth space and the amount of travel earth will get will increase 10 to 100 fold in the next year. due to this galactic highway the stakes for earth are higher. Whoever controls these galactic pathways gets a lot of power. Kind of control over a toll road. Whoever collects the tolls gets more money, power, ect. there is gonna be some issues on a galactic scale which is centered on earth's galactic toll booth. some beings want earth to have claim to this 'toll booth" while others want to claim this resource for themselves because we are too "primitive" in their mind. earth also has population of "hybrid" humans. humans who also have genetics from one of the other races...Hindu called it Ayah. Hitler named it Aryan. They are technically under some sort of galactic law the "owners" of earth. so, something is cooking on some sort of galactic scale. 4th...if there is gonna be a mass landing the first landing is fake. The second would be real. Have no idea what that means. 5th...look for something with the sun to happen. Mass power outage of some sort. 6th...date I keep getting in my mind is june 2010. Don't know why. |
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Thanks Housemouse...some interesting points...
And thanks Yiolas for your kind words... Here's another great video from our David... You might feel a bit of a nana doing the meditational process....but it works. Edit...DRAT I've just realized David has posted this already on another thread...OH WELL!!! Cheers david a few more views for you..ha ha Happy Xmas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdkvFk5F9P0 viking |
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Maslow Predicted the Shift
by Owen Waters Abraham Maslow (1908-70) was a psychologist who became famous for his hierarchy of human needs. When he developed his theory in the 1950s, he predicted the transformation of humanity into a realm of spiritual transcendence, but he had no idea just how soon this would develop into a major movement.. Maslow's hierarchy of human needs shows that basic human needs have to be fulfilled before people can attend to higher needs and values. First, the basic physiological needs of food and shelter must be catered for in order to ensure survival. Second, once food and shelter are obtained, safety and security must be achieved. Third, acceptance by others is sought, in both the social and romantic senses. To fulfill this 'belonging' need, people become part of a group, a tribe, an extended family or a community. When these deficiency, or outer-directed, needs are satisfied, then the individual works to acquire self-respect. Recognition by others produces self-esteem. Once the outer needs are fulfilled, the inner-directed need for self-actualization comes into play. To self-actualize means to become the best you personally can be. Self-actualized people include those who have achieved material abundance, and also those who, as a decision of personal power, have chosen simplicity over the pursuit of further abundance. At some point, when a person says, "That's enough" to the endless pursuit of additional financial security, then they become free to accomplish anything that inspires their inner joy the most. http://www.openhandweb.org/files/ope..._ascension.jpg Self-actualization is achieved after the individual ceases to have deference to hierarchical authority, and instead matures into the ability to make their own rules of personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is always more powerful and effective than any system of imposed rules. For example, you can threaten to punish someone if they steal and hope that the threat works. But, a self-responsible person simply wouldn't steal because they would feel empathy for the loss that a would-be victim would feel. They simply wouldn't have the heart to do such a thing to another person. It's a matter of increased maturity. When a person abandons the impositions of external authority and becomes their own, self-directed authority, then they become far more functional in the world. This is, in fact, a higher state of consciousness, one which provides a higher vista of awareness. From this expanded vista, they see clearly how they as an individual can best serve humanity. In this state of awareness, the person acquires the ability to think and analyze situations independently. As a result, new and creative solutions spring to mind. They have enough self-esteem to be able to clearly see their own needs, skills, strengths and weaknesses, and from that they see where they can best be of service to humanity. Once basic needs are fulfilled, the next values to require attention relate to being. The first of these being-values is self-actualization, which is the instinctual need of a human to make the most of their unique abilities. Above that, Maslow placed transcendence, which he considered a spiritual value. Traditional universities typically presume that spiritual matters are beyond the understanding of their students, so they present the Maslow hierarchy of human needs differently. They present it with self-actualization as the ultimate human goal, and omit the transcendence stage beyond that. The being-values of self-actualization and transcendence are the higher, more beautiful aspects of human consciousness. They include unconditional love, altruism, inner joy, a love of nature, the development of intuition (in males as well as females), idealism, and a sense of wisdom which springs from within. These skills develop the right-brain functions of creativity and intuition. In the 1950s, Maslow believed that only 2% of the population had achieved self-actualization. The mid-1960s changed all that when masses of people began the search for the higher values, such as unconditional love and spiritual wisdom. Today, that core group of progressive society has blossomed from 2% to over 20%, and is climbing every year. The Shift is not a temporary by-product of the baby boom generation, or any other generation of modern society. It is not a passing fad. It is not going away. It is a cosmic pressure that is unfolding and relentlessly increasing the frequency of all consciousness upon the planet. It is a part of the plan of Infinite Being that we progress to the next stage of conscious human achievement. The Shift is, to put it simply, the most wonderful transformation in recorded history. This is where humanity gets to build, literally, Heaven on Earth. ____________ _________ _________ _________ ______ Owen Waters is an international spiritual teacher who has helped hundreds of thousands of spiritual seekers to understand better the nature of their inner being and their infinite potential. For more than forty years, his life has focused upon gaining spiritual insights through extensive research and the development of his inner vision. He writes a spiritual metaphysics newsletter that empowers people to discover their own new vistas of inspiration, love and creativity. Spiritual seekers enjoy his writings for their insight and clarity. Owen Waters' first book, The Shift: The Revolution in Human Consciousness was published in November 2005. viking |
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Thanks Winehippie for your input...much appreciated...
"On 12-21-2012, according to the frequently quoted Mayan prophecies the end of time shall take place. However, "end of time" in their perspective doesnt mean the "end of the world" as being misinterpreted by some. Even though currently everything is undergoing massive change, this global transformation process at the end (of time) will turn out to be very much necessary, as it pushes us towards a turnaround." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCLjo...222&feature=iv viking |
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I wonder if anyone on this planet is truly awake????
I'm sure many think they are but I wonder if any are. I like to think I am more awake than some but I also know that there is no way of telling just how awake we can be :original: |
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I think that ascension can be performed any time, since the fondation of time by spiritualwillaction ... means getting your spirit safe and leaving your body behind for higher levels ...
In 2012 we are taklking about a forced haverst for everyone ! some will go, some will die, some will stay ... You can find some information on how the harvest will be performed in many ancient text, but the best are the explaination's of jesus, as every one has a bible, grab it, and study the words and meaning .. then look if yu corespond at the description of the ones who will go to heaven or hell ... It is pretty shure that you souldn't wait for any help than from yourself, so leaving the work for tomorow is the best way to die ... In 2012, we are talking about huge crust movement, you find also many description's of how it take place, and what are the fisical damage ... This can be from 10 to 90% life extinction ... So if nothing happens in 2012, be shure it can happen any time after, because these things happend in history ... If you prepare now you'll be prepared for ever, and you can teach how to prepare to your kids ... if you are not prepared you will not be able to teach to your kids ... The preparation must be in the spirit, then your flesh will follow the spirit awaken .. check your spiritual state with the words of jesus, he spoke like a lion to human, with love and strenght and truth, because he waanted to wake us up ... don't relly on anybody else than you, take care :wub2: |
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2012: A window of opportunity for humanity
2012: Transitional period for making a personal choice 2012: Beacon to a potential critical mass of the collective consciousness 2012: A gentle wave of affirmation for some 2012: A tsunami for others What will it be for you? Love and Peace in learning Roland |
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If you want to know your history, and why peolpe in diferent country think diferent, than I should advice that every cityzen goes to the fountain of his history and drinks it .. because until people listen to other's that say "I know the truth" the will be mislead in ignorance ... Evryone should get his own truth by making clear by himself what is wrong and rigth since foundation of time ... very important to understand that US, europe, and other country's based on ancient and new testament bible have also all the actual laws based derived fron it ... Also has chinese based on the Tao ... But if you get a closer look, you understand that something is going wrong ... laws are more based on flesh than on spirit, and that doesn't corespond too what jesu's says, or sidarta, gandhi, mohamed and all the other saint in their spirit talk about .. So I thnk that reading at least for who identify's to occidental ways the words of jesus, will helps to mutate the mind in some way ... because he is like an open door on ascenssion, of course not the only one, but a famous one :wub2: |
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Here is a video I found explaining the mayan calendars with respect of the culture and serious research.
It is a bit short and the music is too loud, but the message still get through. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8RV9JHU Namaste, Steven |
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This is all truth. The end of the powers that be WILL come in 2012. It is going to be INCREDIBLE. The truth has always been within! Do not pay attention to the negative, even if it is grotesque and unimaginable, but the positive. Love consciousness is the recognition that good and evil and suffering is all illusion. Sometimes it is necessary to release the bottled up negative energy forms (I still have "significant" engrams, and so does humanity). 2012 is beyond description. I hope that I don't fall into darkness...
Even though we should not depend on "time" and "dates" for things to happen, we still have to cause "IT" to happen our selves. We must tackle the responsibility our selves. Time is not needed for enlightenment, because time is illusion. (Like I said I still have some bottled up emotions to release.) We do not need to wait till 2012 to be enlightened, we become enlightened in the NOW. Suffer no more! All of you live in the consciousness of love Oh Divine Light guide me!:tears: |
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In order to stay on track towards the higher realms we need tools for taming the reptilian brain within us all. This part of the brain is hard-wired to react with fear to anything perceived as a threat...I've recently discovered some remarkable work by a fellow named Rick Hanson, he calls it neurodharma, blending the cutting edge discoveries of cognitive neuroscience, transformational psychology and buddhist mind training (without any religious undertones). The best part, he gives it all away...check out the podcasts on his site www.rickhanson.net ...its all about reconfiguring the brain to function in an awakened state (which he differentiates from "enlightenment"). I also found some amazing software called Single Step to help with "getting things done".
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Thanks Guys ... great videos and information...
As I have said in previous posts...DNA upgrade 2012??? Please watch listen... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puXGG...eature=related viking |
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Your onto something here, you see I have said this before and i will say this
again, what the Mayan calender measures is consciousness. If you look at from a different angle what you realize is it measures development of consciousness. What is currently happening is not a speeding up of time, but a speeding up of consciousness, until its hits a turning point in the near future. |
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he says something about us (not speeding up time) but moving out of linear time to a point of consciousness where time is just as accessible as thought and the only thing left to explore is 3D space at any point in the timeline...
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David Wilcock: 2012 DNA Upgrade
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I reckon we're in for some pretty tough times over the next few years up to and beyond 2012. The matrix control grid the Illuminati global elite are constructing will become ever more obvious even to the most blinkered and thought controlled citizen. But never forget that there is something in the human spirit, something beautiful and prevailing that will not give in to suppression and tyranny, we have the whole of past history as a guiding example of we, the "ordinary" people of the world, taking back our power from the tyrants that would suppress our freedom.
For me, 2012 and beyond is about a shift in consciousness, a new paradigm of thought and reality creation, a time of great challenge and a time of great opportunity for planet and people. We are the front of the snow plough generation that is going to see the brutal, naked power and aggression of the Illuminati brought to an end. Their time of tyranny and suppression of truth is nearing its end. What I term the Ascension Revolution - meaning simply a higher state of consciousness - will sweep away the last bastions of the power elite and crash their control matrix to the ground, and that time is just around the corner. David Icke in my opinion, a great speaker, thinker and messenger of a new beginning for humanity recently stated that 2016 will be the time when the game is finally up for the Illuminati, what he bases this date on I don't know, but certainly I think by the end of this decade we will be living in an entirely different era to the one we were born into. Lastly I would say always remember who you are: we are Infinite Consciousness experiencing this reality, we chose to be here at this time, we are all essentially volunteers, we are here for a purpose, to transform this prison planet to an earthly paradise. This I would posit is the mission of our International Ground Crew movement. |
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Hey sweet video viking found this sweet interview, by David Wilock. It gets
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Interesting info from John Major Jenkins
What the Maya left behind... Over 2,000 years ago the early Maya formulated a profound galactic cosmology. They saw that the sun, on the winter solstice, was slowly moving toward the heart of the galaxy. Naturally enough, with their uncorrupted intelligence intact, they suspected that the world would go through a transformation when the solar and the galactic planes aligned. They devised their Long Count calendar to target when the cosmic alignment would maximize, and that time is AD 2012. We are lucky that the brilliant skywatchers who devised the 2012 calendar left carved monuments for us to decode, and that they have survived the decay of centuries, so that we can know exactly what they prophesied and believed about 2012. Incredibly, at the early Maya site of Izapa in southern Mexico, the galactic cosmology and a profound spiritual teaching are preserved. Izapa speaks to us of the Galactic Alignment in 2012 as a transformative nexus in time, a still-point turnabout, inviting us to reconnect with our cosmic heart and eternal source. With the Divine Wisdom. But how can that be achieved? What is the original, undiluted, prophecy for 2012, divined by those ancient mystics and stargazers who invented the 2012 calendar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN6ta...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr2TZ...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ino...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVfx...eature=related |
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A great Camelot-Exopolitical presentation by Alfred Webre. I never tire listening to this knowledgeable and charming man.
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Thanks Truth ... lovely videos ...
Bumped into this on my travels....thought I would share... A Message from Jmmanuel ... Beloved Brothers and Sisters of Earth, we of the Higher Realms are in great joy witnessing the new Gaia being born. This is the first time a whole planet attempt to duplicate itself into a higher plane of existence in your solar system. The duplication is the first step on Gaia’s ascension process, and although is not complete yet, we believe it will be accomplished soon. The second step is the separation of the two planets; this step could be compared to cell reproduction. In the case of cells, the process is Mitosis, and the original cell divides itself into two complete new cells that are identical to the original one. In Gaia’s case the process is more like Meiosis, being the cells created by this process not identical to the original cells. In your density this is apply especially to females’ bodies. The duplication process of a whole planet takes around 9 of your years to complete, while the separation will occur in a split second. At the end of the Galactic cycle, Gaia will have a very short period of time during which the separation must occur. Once this process is completed, the new Gaia will exist in 5th density, while the old Gaia will remain in 3rd density. That is why there is so much confusion about what is going to happen in the year 2012. Some individuals say catastrophe, some say ascension, and others say nothing will happen. And they are all right. The year 2012 cannot be understood if observed only from the third-density point of view, because in fact it is a multi-dimensional/galactic alignment happening at all consciousness levels, from where the spreading of a stream of electrons, protons, etc will occur, due to their mutual electrostatic repulsion. The total amount of flux spreading is an infinite volume at any point of the vector field, and its manifestation/result is determinate by the net flow of consciousness in a given region of the vector field. This means that there will be many different outcomes from the same event. Everything depends of the vibratory rate of your consciousness, meaning every individual will experience a different outcome. Some will experience catastrophe, some will experience ascension, and others will experience nothing at all. Two individuals will experience the same outcome only when their consciousness vibrates at the same rate, because when two individuals focus their awareness on the same part of the consciousness’ energetic spectrum, they become contemporaries, they are no longer separate by the illusion of space and time. To understand this concept, first you have to understand that you are a multi-dimensional being living simultaneously in thousands of superimposed parallel planes of existence. Many of you are able to sense this, but many think they have one ‘main-self’ (the one who is reading right now) and all the ‘other-selves’ are less real. When in fact your consciousness is equally distributed in all your-selves, making all of them your ‘main-self’. With every single decision you make, you redirect your awareness into one of your thousands-self. When this happens, you don’t feel anything at all, but you –literarily- have moved into another world. Everything will look as it was ten minutes ago, you will be living in the same house, married to the same person, working at the same place, etc. but from a vibrational point of view, all that things are totally new, since you are now living in a new world. The superimposed parallel universes model was designed by the Creator with the purpose of enriching your soul experience, now it is up to your free will to decide which one of yourselves will attend the 2012 shift with full awareness. For example, you and your neighbor will not have the same experience. Each of you will continue living in different Earths. All those who do not have the same vibratory rate than you, will simply vanish from your reality. That is why most of the ‘mass predictions’ made lately do not happen, because a prediction is made at a specific point in the vector field, where the predictor awareness is integrated with his/her consciousness, but a second later he/she, and most important, you have shifted your awareness into another-self, and now you are living in another parallel timeline, where the predicted outcome will not occur. Your awareness is what determinates in which timeline you exist right now, and your beliefs is what fix the awareness in certain portion of the timeline. If you believe that the year 2012 marks the end of humankind, then you will experience some kind of ending. On the other hand, if you believe that in 2012 the ascension harvest will begin, then you will experience some kind of beginning. Remember, your thought-pattern creates feelings, your feelings creates emotions, and your emotions create your reality. Question: You have mention many times that we must leave fear behind, a reader from Australia asked: How to substitute Fear for Love? Love is a gift from the beyond and exists beyond duality. There is no way to substitute one for the other; this has to be understood deeply. Fear and Love are not two different things; they are different qualities of the same energy. Fear is a negative aspect of Love. If the highest vibrations of the primal energy do not flow through your energetic field, that energy becomes Fear. If the higher part of the frequency spectrum is allowed to flow, Fear disappears and Love remains. The idea of Fear and Love being two different things has been rooted in the collective mind throughout the ages with the only purpose of turning humanity into slavery, because an individual cannot be reduced to slavery if he/she understands that Fear and Love are the same energy and all depends on which part of the spectrum he/she focus the attention.Because when two individuals focus on the same part of the energetic spectrum, they are no longer separate, they are one. Love vibrations help you to dissolve with others. Question: You have mentioned that our DNA is being activated through beams of high vibratory energy pouring down onto Earth, a reader from France would like to know how many of the 12 DNA strands can be activated at the present state of human consciousness? Third-density human beings are potentially able to activate countless DNA strands, however, at the present moment in human evolution there is 144 main strands that need to be active in order to wakeup your full human potential. The Great Divine Director and the Council of Lords of Karma has set the number of strands needed at this specific point in the evolutionary line to 144. In addition to these 144 strands, there is an upgrade package of 144000 ‘galactic’ DNA strands available at the moment. Question: A reader from Russia asked: The further I am in the spiritual path, the more insecure I feel, what am I doing wrong? You are doing nothing wrong, simply you can sense that real security does not exist. Security means nothing but complacency to the circumstances of your reality. It is merely an ideal implanted in your mind to fool you into fearing the unknown. Because if you remain in the known there is no growth. When you enter the unknown and embrace the uncertainty, you would have taken a quantum leap in opening the doors to your real self and your part in the Devine Plan. Beloved Brothers and Sisters of Earth, you are living in amazing times! The energies pouring down into Earth are increasing significantly each new day, the newborn babies’ DNA contains genetic information never seen on Earth before, and your scientists can confirm the presence of a new active DNA strand in many newborns. Your skies are full of ‘lights’ seeing by thousands on a daily bases. The collective consciousness is creating new connections between individuals belonging to the same ‘soul group’, regardless the physical distance between them. Telepathic abilities are now available to almost everyone. Your energetic body started to remember its potential and is activating its auto-healing capacities. More and more individuals understand that they have a life-contract to fulfill, and are changing their attitude towards life, changing the very world in which they exist. Many, many have come out of their conditioning, and can see total freedom just few steps away. The majority of your collective is dropping all fixed ideas from the past, and a new paradigm is being born. The idea of separation between individuals of your collective is fading faster than you can imagine, your souls started to remember that separation only exists on the surface, and deep down you (we) are all one.The cycle of limitation is coming to an end. Amazing times for Mankind indeed! But the new opportunities bring new responsibilities. Just look around, whatever you have been doing, now it seems it is not enough.It is time to bring in something new, a new start in the journey, a new beginning.You have been preparing through many lives for this moment, do not miss it. It is time for deliberated co-creation of your future. The secret of co-creation of a whole new reality is simply to break down big goals into series of little ones. With every little achievement, the ultimate goal will come closer.Be a person of action, only action oriented individuals make things happen. Do not wait until tomorrow. Today is a good day to start. Start by trusting in yourself, in your potential, in your connection with All That Is, and in your utterly irreplaceable part in the Divine Plan. When you trust in yourself wholeheartedly your awareness will guide you on living a life that is honorable and meaningful! I AM Emmanuel viking |
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Wow Viking ! Thank you for that. It was beautiful.
I must say that it was very synchronistic for me as well. My father and I were just discussing how perhaps it is all about creating the 2012 that each of us would like to see. No matter how hard I try I just can't get into survivor mode, ie., buying supplies, finding a survivor shelter etc.,etc. Lately all these doom and gloomers are turning me off. It seems that there is a disconnect every time I happen to hear something bad on the news or watch a video about the end of the world as we know it. Lately, I just tune it out and don't get involved. I am having a much easier time clearing out my inner self, loving more, enjoying more and just being me. Thanks for the words of incouragement ! |
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Hey Thanks Yiolas/Busymom ...
This ones for you ... :original: viking |
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Thanks viking! the beautiful pictures of the sun coming through the clouds struck a chord with my research on cloud busting... (will also post in thread "chemtrails")
http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm I was looking up more info on the cloudbusting- as a way to peacefully combat the gray chemshield they spread over my city everyday, and I came upon this site for orgone energy- which does much more than cloudbusting- and it appears that it fits the characteristics of true energies that are/were deliberately sabotaged by government/big business… |
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Thanks for the reminder Viking .
Sometimes the simplest way is the best ! I learned the white light visualization technique over 20 years ago when I first began to meditate. Since then I've tried hundreds of other ways ; chakra meditations; using music ; listening to sound frequencies and imagining a whole list of colors and lights going up and down and all over the place. all of these techniques I guess had there purpose at the time. Breathing in the white light I think is best because of its simplicity. And yes Xbusymom ! I'm finally coming to the conclusion that what we should be doing in the midst of all of this chaos is to slow down, get closer to Mother Earth and visualize a more organic way of existence. In spite of my hectic lifestyle, what I like to do most of all is be in my garden ; smelling the sweet earth as I till the soil. Hear the birds singing all around me as I plant seeds. This communion with Earth is what I enjoy the most. |
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My pleasure Yiolas...
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