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sfth13 09-29-2008 04:31 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myra (Post 31796)
Wow. What if a person can't even afford the $5 or the $30? I'm sure it happens a lot more often these days than anyone can imagine. Great. Oh well. :sad:

It has nothing to do with the $5. I have it and plan on paying it. I was just saying that I never ran a forum and wasn't aware of the cost involved in running and maintaining a forum. some people here just look for the negative

Myra 09-29-2008 04:42 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
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Originally Posted by MMe M (Post 31412)
Besides, what is a pittance to some is a fortune to others....

Right on.

Tamarie 09-29-2008 04:45 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
How about a monthly donation of your choice, but AT LEAST $2.00 or more, or an annual donation of at least $15.00 or more? I can certainly afford .50c a week... Others may be able to afford double that, or triple, or more, and I'm sure it would feel great being able to choose the donation/subscription amount that feels right to you.

I must admit that I was unsure about whether I would subscribe, given the option, and until I reached the end here at Page 4, I was still uncertain, however, putting a monetary value of less than a dollar a week towards information that I read and look forward to reading on a daily basis (I'm referring really to the Project Camelot site) seems reasonably fair to me.

Whilst I might not agree with some opinons here at Avalon, nor on some points such the one Bill made about Miriam's interview being of utmost importance, I do respect and appreciate Bill and Kerry dedicating their time for US. Over 3,000 of us wouldn't be here today debating this point if it wasn't for them. Not to mention the number (over 2 million, wasn't it?) of unique visitors that Camelot has seen to date.

I do also patiently wait for more input from Bill and Kerry regarding the huge number of opposing views on Miriam's interview, and perhaps further discussion on topics (as they appear) such as this one that seemed to grow quickly and needs settling, but it's more important to me that they spend their time wisely.

And perhaps my .50c a week might help them to do that. :biggrin2:

Tamarie 09-29-2008 05:02 PM

Moderators:
 
On another note, I would like to make a suggestion going forward that the Moderators not argue or disagree with another members comments in full view of everyone else. Please save us all from embarrassment and use the PM function next time...

Moderators should be trustworthy, un-sided 'members of authority', who speak on behalf of Bill and Kerry, and whose role should be to silently moderate, yet still participate in the forum by providing members with information and links of relevance where available.

I've seen it done like this successfully in other forums and I'm sure it can be pulled off here as well.

Thanks for taking this into consideration. :thumb_yello:

Suriel 09-29-2008 05:02 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
I have and can run a forum for $12.95 a month from Yahoo. It's a great deal. It's a whole lot less than $99,000.00 a year.

But there are many free forums out there that you can go to.

Peace.
:)

prem 09-29-2008 05:31 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Hey, Wait till the October 14 for the live Star war preview show (oops. am i right?). I think its the aliens on a vacation to US (the picnic spot is Alabama i think).

If you wait till that date, you might have one more reason i think.

October 14 ; its ET time :roftl: :roll1:

china2012 09-29-2008 06:04 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol (Post 31128)
Very well stated Theresa and thank you. Each forum has its own purpose. Camelot is for discussion, critical opinion, honesty, free style thinking, debate, education and discovery. This is the place where many folks are learning about some of the insider information for the first time. It takes time to digest what is being presented there. For example, it took me years before I was ever ready to even accept that ETs were existed in the "real" sense of the word and it took years to assimilate what I was learning.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough time for folks to take years to learn and assimilate everything that is being currently being revealed in these forums. Subsequently folks tend get irritated or angry because this info is a bit overwhelming and doesn't fit into many of the present day belief systems. Irrespective of the emotional upheaval, Avalon is the ground crew. These are the folks that are the leaders for the ones who are still "not on the bus."

Ground Crew members have already accepted that change is afoot and they want to be a part of that change in a positive manner. Some help hold the energy in the direction they would like to see the change move toward while others take care of the nuts and bolts. Just as the feet take us where we want to go; the head gives direction. All parts of the body is needed for it to befully functional.

Folks who are here at the Avalon site don't need to debate because that is already behind them. They don't need to be told to get ready because they recognize what is going on and are already making preparations.

For example, remember the story of the grasshopper and the ants? The grasshopper played during the summer while the ants stored food for the coming winter. Our grasshoppers (folks who are new to this info) need Camelot so as to learn and understand why Avalon is so important.

Those here in Avalon are downloading info and networking. They are sharing their expertise to help their fellow brothers and sisters. This is what Avalon is for.

Mahalo,

Carol



It definitely requires the greatest courage to ask and learn
Some of the most difficult quests in a life
Now the initiation has been given
How well do we cope?
Answer that particular question,
Better be specific:
The biggest risk of all is not to take any risk at all

Accipiter_Phi 09-29-2008 06:06 PM

Carol & Acoura: "I call: SHENNANIGANS!"
 
Carol... Acoura:

Please... Please... In the name of Zeus's butthole, take it to a Private message board.

Nobody is benefitting from this...
Honestly, I think the "moderators" need to learn what the definition of "moderation." (I'm looking at you, Carol). Detach from drama... The guy was trying to help... and even if he wasn't, what are you trying to accomplish with this vulgar PUBLIC display?

At the end of the day, it is the MODERATORS job to MODERATE... not get involved in some highschool hi-jinks and what not.

I know the job is sans- pay, but come on! Are you guys married? (I'm getting a kind of "When Harry Met Sally" vibe.:wink2:

Yikes.

(but, I admit, it was kind of entertaining...in a train wreck sort of way. Alas, 'tis not the function of AVALON)

Odeley :winksmiley02:

Myra 09-29-2008 06:45 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sfth13 (Post 31813)
It has nothing to do with the $5. I have it and plan on paying it. I was just saying that I never ran a forum and wasn't aware of the cost involved in running and maintaining a forum. some people here just look for the negative

Don't worry, my post wasn't meant to direct anything at you personally. I was just speaking for myself because I don't have it (the money) :sad:

Jacqui D 09-29-2008 07:15 PM

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Well i will continue to stay with the site whether subscription or not.
Although we have lost some whistleblowers we can still pop over to the camelot site for any new interviews etc.
I guess it would have been to good to be true to beable to talk to these guys on a daily basis, come on did you really think it would have worked, the Henry Deacon situation just shows that i think was inevitable anyway.
Wecan still discuss certain issues and these times are just in there beginnings, i feel there is so much more to come.

eurosceptic 09-29-2008 07:19 PM

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bawrin!!:sleep_1::sleep_1::sleep_1::lmfao:

EYES WIDE OPEN 09-29-2008 07:26 PM

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its not the money that bothers me. its the class system that will be set up once the subscription starts. KEEP THE WHOLE SITE OPEN TO EVERYONE.

sfth13 09-29-2008 07:43 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myra (Post 31995)
Don't worry, my post wasn't meant to direct anything at you personally. I was just speaking for myself because I don't have it (the money) :sad:

I was just trying to explain my original quote that I think may have been taken the wrong way. I hope not:shocked:

Myra 09-29-2008 07:48 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sfth13 (Post 32062)
I was just trying to explain my original quote that I think may have been taken the wrong way. I hope not:shocked:

No it's okay I didn't take you wrong, no worries!

Sherab 09-29-2008 08:06 PM

Re: Carol & Acoura: "I call: SHENNANIGANS!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Accipiter_Phi (Post 31921)
Carol... Acoura:

Please... Please... In the name of Zeus's butthole, take it to a Private message board.

Nobody is benefitting from this...
Honestly, I think the "moderators" need to learn what the definition of "moderation." (I'm looking at you, Carol). Detach from drama... The guy was trying to help... and even if he wasn't, what are you trying to accomplish with this vulgar PUBLIC display?

At the end of the day, it is the MODERATORS job to MODERATE... not get involved in some highschool hi-jinks and what not.

I know the job is sans- pay, but come on! Are you guys married? (I'm getting a kind of "When Harry Met Sally" vibe.:wink2:

Yikes.

(but, I admit, it was kind of entertaining...in a train wreck sort of way. Alas, 'tis not the function of AVALON)

Odeley :winksmiley02:

Can I get a WITNESS!!

Love is the way 09-29-2008 09:28 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Where to start?

Most importatly for me here is the argument of the cost of having a forum like this......We do not pay for just keeping the forum maintained , we ( the majority of us i dare assume) also want them to do interviews.
And how do u maintain a forum and travel the globe for just above 10$ a month? Just cos Bill and Kerry have good connections doesn`t mean they have access to stargates :biggrin2:
I do sort of like the idea of keeping it free and open to everyone , and we pay what we wish to pay. If there is enough truely englightened people here it could work , and maybe be even more financially beneficial. But my gut feeling tells me that`s easier said then done.

It`s is not relevant at all , but since the moderator can`t help herself i jump in also :mfr_lol:
I never found Arcora`s posts in any way rude , i might be over the top easy going :tongue2: but in this case i feel i`m not. The post he refers to is deleted and even though im sure there is a lot of brilliant minds here , i doubt too many have photographic memory of every post and in that case no harm is done.
I wouldn`t wanna play chess with HD , so never feel too sure about any "proof" regarding who he is. I`m confident Arcora genuinly feels he got it , but i`m equally confident he did`t.


I Love this part :

"I came here to find the answer to one succinct question. I did not get a direct answer - but I did find some clues to continue in my quest. I also discovered two more questions that I need answered. Thank you all for that."

This is the main reason why i`m here too , and this is why i urge u and other doubters to stay on...... There WILL be more clues and questions for those who hang around.....and frankly they might be priceless.....
Just like everything else in life , this site is not perfect and it never will be. But if it gives u something of value and if there is a tiny chance you might get some englightment here.... Then STAY.

I miss the camelot part also , but totally agree and understand it`s closed for a while.... It`s a crazy amount of threads compared to moderators and that a good enough reason for me...... Hopefully it will be back soon.

According to Dan Burisch`s timeline 1 variant 83 the camelot part will be back up on the 4th of October!!!! :roll1:


I`m a little undecied on this yet , but also feel there might be abit too much "Love and light" .... For me , the true Love and light is between the lines anyway.

Theresa 09-29-2008 10:53 PM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Zeus's butthole?? Priceless...:lol3:

Racsouran 09-30-2008 03:22 AM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Carol, acora, flame yourselves in private. :P

whitecrow 09-30-2008 03:30 AM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 30609)
October 1st, this board is switching to a subscription model. I had intended to subscribe, but now I have made the decision to leave on September 30th.

I will share my reasons for those who care.

It isn't the money.


Sigh. I had hoped this wouldn't happen. I will be leaving too, and for me it IS the money. I understand that the costs of maintaining a site like this is hugely expensive. I've offered to help by giving time, but I suppose I couldn't pass the "vetting" process. No matter.

When everyone has to pay to gain admittance, my dear mods, you are no longer on a mission or a quest. At that point you are running a business, and I will not feed the machine. When people are considered worthy to contribute and receive only by virtue of their ability to shed money, you've joined the dark side.

I'll be here until they make me leave, but I won't pay because I can't. I would if I could, but I'd still leave for the sake of the others who can't.

OceanWinds 09-30-2008 04:11 AM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 31761)
How am I taking a victim stance?

You continue to deride and belittle me. That should be apparent to anyone here. What I am unsure of is why you are playing the Monday morning quarterback game.

As I said before, I attempted to PM Admin but received no response. Why would I have continued on that tack?

You may opine all you like about what I should or should not have done. I thought carefully about the position I was placed in and followed a course of action that I feel was right.

If you disagree, that is your perogative. You are entitled to your opinions but please, stop harassing me on this.

I completely agree with this... Arcora is completely entitled to his opinion, which is based on very valid arguments (many in this thread are in agreement with Arcora). Anyone who disagrees, can state their disagreement and why. At this point its still a debate, but once a person starts judging another member in a negative light. Without having met them, or knowing anything about them... it is an attack, and becomes harassment when done repeatedly.

I personally am not impressed... and agree this should have been done in private.

rustanddust 09-30-2008 04:17 AM

Re: September 30th - Goodbye
 
"harrassment"? "deride and belittle"? please. quite the drama queen aren't we?

it seems like this has gone private already, this is nothing we need to keep up with.


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