Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 113015)

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Originally Posted by mudra (Post 114058)

Sun-Toon, Here is the link where you can find the downloadable summary of the nexus thread:
http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/nexusform.html
It's well worth reading.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114033)

Josefine's discernment skills are top notch, but I can even see an agenda in that. We all have agenda's don't we.
I'm no friend of overly photoshopped pictures or gigantic fonts, but if that is what people think is needed to express their emotions, I think one should not scrutinise it. Too much 'professionalism' kills the fun.
Seeding the notion of 'being treated like 8 year olds' is as much a programming trick of suckering us into pride as the 'censorship' itself is.

Originally Posted by sun-toon´ (Post 114106)

Thx, mudra...I'll check this out. I downloaded the book as well.




Well I'm not buying into this. If you're going to paint Josefine's discernment as an agenda you should explain that. It was an observation and a good one.

I can halfway agree with the 2nd comment...I'm not into killing anyone's fun or spontaneity, but posters should understand that sometimes their means of expression, when they were emotional for a moment last week, might lose it's impact and even become annoying when threads become historical references rather than active conversation. (i.e. you can always go back and edit).
OTOH, I don't feel it's appropriate to declare what cannot be scrutinized.

As for accusing me of "seeding" some sort of "program" into this forum because my ability to express myself (and yours as well) is curtailed by an absurd forum programing decision, one which censors the word "c r a p"; and then having a mod without the hat declare that "wise" and "profound"...Honestly, those have to be among the strangest two posts I've ever seen in venue where most of the membership seems reasonably rational.
Would the next step be to prohibit violent words like "murder" and "rape"?

Since I've only made about a dozen posts here, I suppose my comments carry no weight with the regulars, but I do have more than a decade of experience with forums and newsgroups. It's my opinion, derived from observation, that censoring anything but the most outrageous personal attacks and trolling does nothing to enhance the spirit of communication and the exchange of ideas. This exchange is my agenda, so have no doubts about that. It's one that I assumed would be in sync with the mission of avalon.

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I came back into this and edited because I've been away from my desk and thinking about it.
I'm not saying we should agree, differing points of view are a positive and necessary part of the equation. But, to insinuate that the act of questioning the rulemakers is somehow out of line, makes me a bit uneasy about your hidden agendas...and questioning an act of scrutiny is an even more extreme level of control. Conform all you like, but the use of social intimidation to coerce your level of conformity out of others is not conducive to an atmosphere of creative exchange.

As a sovereign individual, I take responsibility for my own actions and feel no need for rulemakers at all. None. I don't need policed to protect others from me, and I don't need protected from myself. That is the vibrational realm we're moving into when we're moving into higher dimensional realms. It means understanding and accepting the consequences of action, without authority figures (or gods) dictating what we should be doing. If you're not ready to do that on the freakin' internet, you're certainly not ready to do it in real life.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114214)

it seems that there are issues regarding what content can actually be posted and supposedly (I didn't check this myself) a forum could be taken down for 'corrupting the youth' or whatever excuse it might be. Not that this forum couldn't be taken down for hundreds of other reasons.
Copyright infringement would be the least of them. Why however this forum considers itself above copyright but not above that f***ing decadence and hypocrisy (I bleeped myself! but this time the word IS descriptive) I do not know.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114214)

Be that as it may, I'll keep my eyes open because if this continues I might want to use my voice for all that's worth.
As for my 'accuse' of Josephine's intentions having an agenda, well I guess I have to apologise for I didn't mean it as an accuse. As you so eloquently illustrated yourself, anybody can be accused of having an agenda. Are they even real people? No one knows. I am just trying to see the dynamics behind the entity that posts it and I'm somewhat confused when supposedly real people never contradict themselves, are real hard-liners... because I certainly, as you just noticed, throw the odd statement that wasn't as well thought through as I hoped it would be, but hey, at least I come with humility to to accept that and apologise.

It's people that are supposedly spiritually enlightened, yet have not humility whatsoever that make me really weary.

Originally Posted by AussieG (Post 114235)

For Avalon forum members :mfr_omg: we are very please to announce the attendance in person of Astralwalker of the Nexus thread. Who is in Melb.: :welcomeani: I can vouch that he is real and rididige. :thumb_yello: He only just arrived in Aus. and after a time to settle and adjust we will talk extensively, with an idea of posting a video in the near future, if Kerry and Bill don't beat us to it.

Originally Posted by sun-toon´ (Post 114270)

Hmmm. It wasn't my intent to get into this discussion, but I think it may be one of the most important subjects that needs to be brought out in the open here. Who says there are content indiscretions that can get the forum banned? and from where? If this is true then we might has will hang it up and find another way to communicate, because unless we're writing in code, the very objective of this level of discourse is going to anti-PTB, anti-status quo and revolutionary at it's core.

We're not saving the current system, and if anyone thinks so, I suggest you hang up the thought. It's over, rotten to and from the core, and needs overwritten with an entirely new program. If that program can't be sketched out, as creatively as possible, and maybe even more importantly, alliances created in the same way, why are we wasting our time? My Space is a click away, and they don't seem worried about anything but showing a tit.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114298)

Wait a second, I'd really like to see a list of posts that support 'the local PTB'. What are the local PTB?
Moderators? Kathleen?
This sounds like an anarchy trip. Is the next system anarchy of love and happiness? I don't know. It's rather hard to grasp and I think it'd be better to not lead towards a specific concept of a system because it's likely we wouldn't recognise it from this vantage point.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114298)

If you are of such anti-authority it almost sounds like you shouldn't be too far from the nexus thread. There, no leaders exist, just 'organisers'.

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 114298)

Forgive me for being so cynic but it does bring up old frustrations. Regarding humility, I doubt that writing a book about it will have any use.

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 114441)

To know another human being in their essence, you don’t really need to know anything about them — their past, their history, their story. We confuse knowing about with a deeper knowing that is non-conceptual. Knowing about and knowing are totally different modalities. One is concerned with form, the other with the formless. One operates through thought, the other through stillness.

Knowing about is helpful for practical purposes. On that level, we cannot do without it. When it is the predominant modality in relationships, however, it becomes very limiting, even destructive. Thoughts and concepts create an artificial barrier, a separation between human beings. Your interactions are then not rooted in Being, but become mind-based. Without the conceptual barriers, love is naturally present in all human interactions.


Eckhart Tolle
Source: Stillness Speaks

Originally Posted by sun-toon´ (Post 114501)

I think I've said enough on this subject for now. I don't really have a problem, but I'm irritable, and I can see how something that may seem to promote congeniality and decorum can have far reaching negative implications.
This all started with a comment about the word masking tool, and now leads to this final statement: If the local PTB is first and foremost interested in finding solutions, they'll stay out of the way and encourage the widest and wildest discourse possible. The problems we face are far deeper and more profound than any of us can grok, and most of what's being discussed is tangential at best. Right now much of our planet's evolution is tied to a few people having their non-local memories activated piece by piece, and those pieces can come from anywhere. People who think outside of the box naturally tend to be uncomfortable in a setting of rules and restrictions, and IMO it's from outside of the box that the solutions will arise. The local PTB should be working to attract those types, not drive them away.

Originally Posted by Josefine (Post 111842)

Luminary and Dayzero : I think KathyT has made a very valid point here. Using both brain hemispheres is always better than just one.

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 111966)

Many photos he has presented do not give reference to the sources. There is no way to verify whether they are real or not. If they are his own personal photos, he should claim ownership. If they are photos of others, he should give their source. He should have footnotes to all sources of information that are not his. There is nothing to be ashamed of if you have to reference the work of others that have come before you.
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Originally Posted by mudra (Post 111997)

Kathy there is no place for doubt in the Heart. Your soul's heart will always tell you right.

Originally Posted by Malletzky (Post 112851)

You can read and download the book here as pdf file:
http://projectcamelot.net/extraordin...pane_andov.pdf
malletzky

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 114441)

To know another human being in their essence, you don’t really need to know anything about them — their past, their history, their story. We confuse knowing about with a deeper knowing that is non-conceptual. Knowing about and knowing are totally different modalities. One is concerned with form, the other with the formless. One operates through thought, the other through stillness.

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 116448)

"History is a better guide than good intentions."
Jeane Kirkpatrick, 1926-, U.S. political scientist and United States ambassador to the United Nations (1981-1985)

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 116471)

History is written by the "winners"......