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QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:29 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyWatcher (Post 21194)
Kerry and Bill are all about openness and disclosure. Do you think for one moment that the powers that be don't know exactally where Kerry and Bill are living? Why should she hide what is probably already out in the open. After all, to buy a house sometimes even to rent, you have to do a tremendous amount of paperwork, background checks, etc. You are totally exposed financially, let alone the emotional side, if she bought a house.

Kerry and Bill are not ducking out of town when the stuff hits the fan, and Kerry has let us know exactly where she will be when it does.

yeah another point I raised with my friend who retorted why is she safe? But I am of the opinion that TPTB are crumbling, and the split factions could be using their voice for both enlightenment and dis-info. Which again brings us back to intuition doesnt it, and why it is healthy to have these conversations.

Much love xxx

Shellie 09-20-2008 01:29 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I see this could become enormous. I think we should ask our dear moderators if they would be so kind as to create a whole new section of "whatcha think" with everyone's name a different category? Like the whistleblowers' section with each name below?

izz 09-20-2008 01:30 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
and yes i sincerely believe Kerry and Bill are genuine to answer your initial question ..

Shellie 09-20-2008 01:31 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:31 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21203)
I see this could become enormous. I think we should ask our dear moderators if they would be so kind as to create a whole new section of "whatcha think" with everyone's name a different category? Like the whistleblowers' section with each name below?

Faaabulooos idea sweety faabulooos.:thumb_yello:

izz 09-20-2008 01:32 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21202)
, and the split factions could be using their voice for both enlightenment and dis-info. Which again brings us back to intuition doesnt it, and why it is healthy to have these conversations.

Much love xxx

or they [ the PTB ] can use posters who raise doubt and question the sincerity of people who oppose them ... to drum up doubt in other peoples eyes .. and to discredit and undermine people which is what my discernment meter tells me you are doing .. knowingly or not

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:34 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21207)
The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

Well, what are forums for but inteligent, civil debate. I think it would be interesting to talk about some of the people.

For a start.. does wilcock remind anyone of our new evil pope? :tongue2:

Shellie 09-20-2008 01:36 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Ratzinger has the ugliest aura I have ever seen.

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:37 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21207)
The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

Look I have to be honest....throughout my journey initially i was suspicious of everyone, I was very much of the moto TRUST NO-ONE. Now however I understand alot more and realise we are all co-creators. So even the baddies I try to send love too because they need it more than anyone. We should not dwell in the negative, but you should always question as it is just as dangerous to be gullible as it is to be cynicle., hehe and visa versa course.

Much love xxx

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:38 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21215)
Ratzinger has the ugliest aura I have ever seen.

You noticed that too huh?

What a leader! He followed hitler so i guess his heart must be in the right place.

Nik 09-20-2008 01:40 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
The thread grows 2 pages in the time it took to listen to Bill and Kerry's radio interview...

How about a bit more focus on the actual point of Project Avalon: ground crews and resources? :) Is it just me or does it really look like the non-Avalon sections are getting a lot more attention than the Avalon ones?

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:41 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izz (Post 21210)
or they [ the PTB ] can use posters who raise doubt and question the sincerity of people who oppose them ... to drum up doubt in other peoples eyes .. and to discredit and undermine people which is what my discernment meter tells me you are doing .. knowingly or not


Well you need a new battery then cos your way waaay off!!

:lol3:

izz 09-20-2008 01:41 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21216)
Look I have to be honest....throughout my journey initially i was suspicious of everyone, I was very much of the moto TRUST NO-ONE. Now however I understand alot more and realise we are all co-creators. So even the baddies I try to send love too because they need it more than anyone. We should not dwell in the negative, but you should always question as it is just as dangerous to be gullible as it is to be cynicle., hehe and visa versa course.

Much love xxx

cynical .. ummm .. interesting ..

i love the way you open a can of worms and then deny it all and act all sweet .. :naughty:

izz 09-20-2008 01:42 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21222)
Well you need a new battery then cos your way waaay off!!

:lol3:

am i ? :naughty:

PodWORLD 09-20-2008 01:43 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I think the question is fair enough.

Bill and Kerry have interviewed people and let the whole world access it.
They've created a website with info that the whole world can access.
They've created a well designed easy to use web forum that allows people who otherwise might not, communicate.

I thank them and you can clearly see in the interviews that they have problems with some of the statements but they bite their tongues because
you let the person speak and then decide for yourself.

Good thread which inspired debate.

Kudos to them both and to you.

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:43 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik (Post 21220)
The thread grows 2 pages in the time it took to listen to Bill and Kerry's radio interview...

How about a bit more focus on the actual point of Project Avalon: ground crews and resources? :) Is it just me or does it really look like the non-Avalon sections are getting a lot more attention than the Avalon ones?

well mods feel free to delete cos my question has been well and truly answered and I thank you for the space to ask such "controversial" things.

Much love xxx

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:45 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izz (Post 21224)
cynical .. ummm .. interesting ..

i love the way you open a can of worms and then deny it all and act all sweet .. :naughty:

Thats cos I am sweet sister. No negativity here.:wub2:


Much love xxx

Dantheman62 09-20-2008 01:45 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21132)
I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

Yes, Burisch, Deacon, and Lear! sorry,sorry,sorry. Love Boriska! so harmless.

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:46 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21229)
well mods feel free to delete cos my question has been well and truly answered and I thank you for the space to ask such "controversial" things.

Much love xxx

Can i ask what exactly it was that answered your question?

izz 09-20-2008 01:46 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21234)
Thats cos I am sweet sister. No negativity here.:wub2:


Much love xxx

:lmao:

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:48 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62 (Post 21235)
Yes, Burisch, Deacon, and Lear! sorry,sorry,sorry

Yeah now Burisch for me seems odd..simply because he can come out and let seemingly above top secret info out and then return for another job?

Seems fishy to me xx

Dantheman62 09-20-2008 01:53 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21241)
Yeah now Burisch for me seems odd..simply because he can come out and let seemingly above top secret info out and then return for another job?

Seems fishy to me xx

Bordering on insanity! BUT GOTTA LOVE BILL AND KERRY!

Shellie 09-20-2008 02:05 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I will come out... Fulford. Benjamin Fulford. I don't think he was surprisingly invited into the Illuminati in Japan... I think he was groomed for it by Illuminati parents. A white guy with a (possibly) Jewish name writes for a money magazine and then becomes Minister of Finance for one of the richest countries in Asia/the world at a relatively young age... C'mon. His name might as well be Benjamin Rockefeller.

bill7907 09-20-2008 02:07 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I am not for Dan Burish guys, but when Kerry asked him how come they didn't kill you for saying that much? He said somebody out there wants him to reveal that kind of information.

The one I have trouble believing is John Lear. Did he say that Venus is all green?
The best Interviewee is Robert Dean with the highest credibility, which makes Project Camelot very credible after all.

Dantheman62 09-20-2008 02:24 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill7907 (Post 21262)
I am not for Dan Burish guys, but when Kerry asked him how come they didn't kill you for saying that much? He said somebody out there wants him to reveal that kind of information.

The one I have trouble believing is John Lear. Did he say that Venus is all green?
The best Interviewee is Robert Dean with the highest credibility, which makes Project Camelot very credible after all.

John Lear, retired pilot who believes everything he reads and hears.

Tuza 09-20-2008 02:27 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Would you say David Icke and the rest like him that come out to awaken people on the planet are too.

Bill comes from a scientific background and that is why I think he thinks very logically about some stuff, but besides that he is a searcher of the truth. Both Kerry and Bill are here to complete a mission, they have taken on that mission and against all negativity they are still on that path. I would be paranoid all the time about being followed or stopped from doing this if I was them, I am sure this comes into their minds, but it does not stop them from doing it. Kerry is a beautiful soul, I know this from personal emails to me from her when I first found Camelot and Avalon. She is just a beautiful soul and so is Bill. If I am wrong about this I will bare my bum in Myers window in Bourke Street, and that will not be a pretty sight for everyone to see believe me, not that I care, so don't let negativity about them enter your minds, it is the negative part playing with you.

Big kiss on nose and cuddle from Tuza for Bill and Kerry. xxx ooo.

clarkkent 09-20-2008 02:53 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
they both just seem "good" to me (bill and kerry) for lack of a better word. Deceptive and "off" people i can just innately sense just by watching them. they both are very thoughtful and just want to provide honest discussion.

bill personally answered a question of mine in a very mature and kind way and didnt color it with his own opinion and allowed me to come to my own conclusion and follow my inner voice.

i certainly have my views about certain interviewees but for bill and kerry both i can only thank them for what theyve done, they risk their safety and spend money to bring us all these viewpoints and thats pretty awesome.

-k

ranma187 09-20-2008 03:05 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Someone once told me a simple google search would reveal bill and kerry as shills for the CIA. so i googled "project camelot shill for CIA". The search turned up not one accusation against them. I am satisfied they are for reals!

That person that told me that was baffon to think that. their claim made no sense.

http://stopgeek.com/wp-content/uploa...7/07/sense.jpg

mwood82 09-20-2008 05:47 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 21124)
?

Do you believe everything people tell you? That doesnt sound very smart.

I have watched all of their videos and read much much information regarding 'fringe knowledge' and i come to my own conlusions based on the overwhelming compilation of information i have been privy to.

And yes, i think they are genuine.

I wouldnt be suprised if you were an agent for the NWO!

*takes thounge out of cheek* :lol3


p.s your wording their was very unusual.

I did not join this forum to be ridiculed, I think they are indeed genuine, but just bringing up the fact that the NWO is decieving beyond all measures, that is all. Unusual wording doesnt permit a negative comment, I feel insulted.

NiceGuyEddie 09-20-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I dont doubt bill and Kerry's work one bit, I beleive they may be wrong about a few things (William Coopers view of the secret goverment is more close to my beliefs) but the most important thing they are trying to do is inform people of whats really happening in the world. This forum is also proof of that for people to discuss opinions and views freely without imposing there opinions on people or swaying people to beleive in there views.
Just ask your friend one question, "If there agenda is to disinform the public then why have they given us a platform to discuss our own opinions so freely without predudice"

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 07:40 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwood82 (Post 22115)
I did not join this forum to be ridiculed, I think they are indeed genuine, but just bringing up the fact that the NWO is decieving beyond all measures, that is all. Unusual wording doesnt permit a negative comment, I feel insulted.

like attracts like, we are after all on a forum. Wording means everything.

GodLover 09-20-2008 08:03 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I don't trust John Lear. At least 50% of what he says sounds like lies.
I read Dan Burisch and cannot believe him either.

The whole theory of stargates is confusing, I don't believe grays or nordics are from the future. There's no past, present, future, we are living in the eternal now.

I find George Green to honest and trust worthy but again that's just my feeling.

Orion11 09-20-2008 08:18 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
what is your gut feeling towards them? go with it.

my gut feeling towards them is very, very positive.

the world needs more of them imo. alot more of them.

*and besides...Kerry is cute to!! :wub2:
haha :bleh:
(your cute to Bill, no frets) :mfr_lol:

k sorry bout that. lighten up ppl, im playin around... or am i? lol :naughty:

Thanks Kerry, Thanks Bill.
all of you are beautiful, really. :wub2:
<3

Dominic 09-20-2008 08:36 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I would never question them. I think they should get praise for what they are doing.

The question that remains is in your own mind.

You must research and disassemble and reassemble the information for yourself.

The pieces of the puzzle will fit after you hear about the same thing from many other witness that have no ties with each other.

We all have a built in system inside us to help us feel the truth.

I use it all the time.

As far as being genuine I would say yes. They are producing interviews and information we would have had a hard time finding on our own.

They receive my highest praise, And I hope that they never stop looking for the truth and sharing what they find.

Cheers

ophiuchus 09-20-2008 08:38 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
your not supposed to believe anyone! listen to what someone has to say and then do your own investigating. it's the only way.

JSErwine 09-21-2008 01:02 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
IMO, I think the OP's question is a good one and not intended to offend anyone. I also think naming names is important, it prevents even further paranoia.

Personaly I think Bill and Kerry are sincere in their mission and like you and I are doing their best to fine tune their BS detecters.

I think it's realy important that everyone do their best to be honest, even if that means someone may get offended. This being said it's just as important for people to be open to positive criticisim. Beating around the bush only slows progress.

elias 09-21-2008 01:16 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
TRUST YOURSELF, because everyone you see in the outer world is a reflection of you, if you trust that God will show you the truth then you will see it, so relax. Those who criticize others, have some problems within themselves, because they are criticizing themselves actually. No? BTW criticizing doesn't feel good, but admiring and praising feels wonderful. So let's attract the truth.

With much love and gratitude ....

Bill Ryan 09-21-2008 04:40 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21064)
But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

Hi, QueenOfLeon:

Please explain to your friend... :original:

We have no fear of the authorities. If we did, we'd not have been able to do anything we do. We'd simply have frozen to the spot and stopped ourselves after a couple of months.

Fear is (as David Icke says) a four letter word used to control people. We refuse to be controlled.

Our motto at Camelot is: the best place to hide is out in the open. That's why we publish our real names. We're SAFER that way. If we disappear, people will soon notice. If QueenOfLeon disappears - no-one will know, because that's not your actual name. I mean no disrespect here - and certainly don't wish you any harm! May we ALL remain safe here. But do you see?

So this is why we have made ourselves so visible.

Besides, you have to realize there's nowhere to REALLY hide... even if you want to.

The authorities know where we live already. They know all about us. They probably know what we just had for dinner. They know who you are, and where you live too. :original: They will know the name of your friend (if they want to) - and also details of all your conversations (again, if they want to).

They have the capacity to read every e-mail, whether encrypted or not. They can listen to any phone conversation at any time. They can eavesdrop on Skype. (We know this for a fact. A transcript of a Skype call was once handed to someone - a senior retired intelligence offical - I was talking about with a contact. The man was not amused.)

They can listen to any conversation you're having - through your cellphone - even if it's turned off. Only removing the battery will disable it as a listening device.

They can also (if they want to) listen to conversations you have with your friend when walking in the park, out in the open. I found this hard to believe until Henry Deacon explained to me exactly how they can do this (by picking up vibrations on the fibers of your clothing).

So I never try to hide. I never encrypt my e-mails - which only serves to REALLY attract attention. The NSA are hardly going to say: "Darn it, that e-mail's encrypted. So we'd just better move on and read the easy ones." :biggrin2:

I don't wear disguise, and don't have a false passport. :original: I just make sure I don't break the law. Kerry feels exactly the same way.

The only thing we don't (usually) do is announce publicly where and when we're interviewing a witness. Not because it might endanger us - but because it might endanger them.

We met with and interviewed Bob Dean again yesterday - and announced it here after we got the video "in the can". We'd had it arranged several weeks beforehand, but never made that public.

They could squish us like bugs... but don't do so. We do think we're protected, actually - both by benevolent ETs and by senior intel insiders (and we thank them here, assuming they're reading this thread!)

It amazed us quite a while back what we have been able to accomplish. The latest thing that's amazed us is this Forum itself, and how fast it's grown. We just do what we do, remaining thankful for all the support we get and the great privilege of meeting some of the people we do.

Very best, Bill

Teresa 09-21-2008 05:28 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
whoaa, it must be getting late...
I thought i read the Title as th last word being: geniuses... instead of genuine

Yes, though, i do think they are 'geniuses' !



:wub2:

SoldierOfTruth808 09-21-2008 05:39 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I didnt even bother reading past the first post of this thread before I gave a response....well except for Bills response in the end, since it was the last post before I started writing this...and also because... No offense to Kerry... between the two of them ive really identified more with Bill and seen him as quite the diplomat and a trust worthy voice. I say that from my intuition of course.

Anyway, No I havent questioned whether or not they are "genuine". When I see tele-evangelists I question if they are genuine, but Kerry and Bill arent on TV collecting money and saying that what they are communicating is law. I see them and Camelot as a medium between the truth and myself, and of course it is up to you and I to decide if we are going to digest it as the truth or not. Ill tell you one thing, in my short sprint on this earth thus far, no information has struck a chord with me in the way that the information they put out has. I give myself alot of credit for being good at deciphering whether something is true or false... just like many of you give yourselves credit for the same. I actually think that all of us being very like minded...of one consiousness if you will, as we are is TESTIMENT to the genuine nature of what Bill and Kerry are doing. QueenOfLeon Maybe your homeboy just isnt ready, luckily alot of us possess enough compassion that we arent gonna let people who arent ready to swim or learn how, just drown. However, I also wanna say...before I go. I think its fu@kin awesome that this topic was brought up. It should be our major function to question and question and question again until we REALLY know the truth. If you were offended by this topic...you need to take a step back and think of how open your mind really is.

Aalooooooooohaaaaaaaa,
Roland K

P.S
I dont hide behind my name...I just like alter egos :biggrin2:


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