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I will try to post that above Salla link once again:
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Dr Greer whatever your take on him and his 'agenda', what follows gives an idea of the nature of PLFs and MILABs within the UK. Taken from the book by Jon King published in 1998, "Cosmic Top Secret..the unseen agenda"...........
ONE....... While I was burning up inside with the desire to know more about this underground laboratory, it was of course Q's mental and emotional health that demanded priority. By the time he'd completed several hours' remote viewing (on several separate, intense occasions) he seemed very drained, disturbed, less keen to revisit the nightmarish netherworld simmering beneath Salisbury Plain than at first he had been. It was clearly time to call a halt. I was not disappointed. He had, after all, more than satisfied any expectations I might have had prior to conducting the experiment. Although he hadn't found any crashed and recovered alien spacecraft, nor indeed any other substantive signs of acquired alien technology, he had nonetheless remotely viewed what appeared to be a deep-underground facility (complete with `human forms, biological forms or specimens . . . aliens or hybrids or something engineered' suspended in `blue liquid' in `glass tanks') at the location described by the coordinates I'd given him. Curiously, these coordinates - though random so far as he knew - were in fact those corresponding to the Imber Ranges on Salisbury Plain, where the `stationary tanks' and `war games' he had described at the beginning of our first sitting can be found on a regular basis. Indeed, of all the military `Danger Zones' demarcated on Salisbury Plain, the Imber Ranges form the only area 'permanently closed' to the public. Of course, this is a long way from conclusive proof, and unlike the British and US intelligence machine I did not have the means to confirm this information one way or the other. There were no Special Forces units at my disposal to force a way in - no way for me to gain entry, even to the ranges, much less to the elevator that Q claimed to have seen operating from inside the `workman's hut, nor even to the `tunnel' that led him from the ranges to wherever the laboratory was located. Food for thought, even so . . . Two final points. One: following our last sitting, Q told me that he'd also sensed the storage of a `significant database' while he'd been viewing underground. What he meant exactly even he could not say. But he stressed the fact that he'd had the strongest sense of some kind of 'significant database' being stored somewhere in the place he had just viewed. We joked that it could have been where the government’s `X Files' were stored. Two (and far more pertinent): not long after our last sitting some information came my way that seemed to corroborate Q's description of an underground laboratory. And of what he'd seen going on in that laboratory. I had, of course, already gleaned a fair knowledge of what might be going on beneath our streets from my own sources. But this next piece of information served to bolster that knowledge even further. It is as follows. Shortly after my sittings with Q I received a letter from someone claiming he had very sound contacts in both the intelligence (MI6) and security (M15) services. Indeed, this person - who must remain anonymous - claimed that some of his contacts were `longstanding friends'. Without going into too much irrelevant detail, the reason this person contacted me, he said, was to offer me `a piece of friendly advice' concerning an article I had written for UFO Reality magazine (an article about Salisbury Plain being a likely site for a British deep-underground military-industrial facility, curiously enough, and which included impressions from Q's initial remote viewing of Salisbury Plain). My correspondent told me in no uncertain terms that, in his opinion, and in the opinion of some of his MI5/MI6 buddies, I had been led up the garden path by my sources regarding the deep-underground facility beneath Rudloe Manor and Salisbury Plain. Though my information was partly correct, he said (indeed, correct enough that he had written to me and warned me against publishing a `genuine national security issue'), it was, in the main, incorrect. THE WATCHER |
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`You are quite correct in stating that there is a vast , underground complex in Wiltshire', he informed me, and indeed went on to say that this underground complex is `the largest in the United Kingdom' and that it is `extremely secure'. However, he added that `Neitherthe Corsham [Rudloe Manor] complex, nor any other underground Government facility in the United Kingdom has any connection whatsoever with UFOs, captured aliens or their craft'. I wrote back and thanked him for his concern. I also told him that I thought he was wrong. Though this information (plus other valuable snippets he seemed willing to share) was in itself of sincere interest to me, further information received from the same source in a subsequent communication fairly claimed my sanity. By this time I had sat with Q (during remote viewing sessions) on a number of occasions, and this new information seemed to correlate too closely with Q's descriptions of an `underground laboratory' for coincidence to win the day. To add to this, I had of course already received information from my own main intelligence source, Stealth, about similar operations under way at several government facilities, either on or beneath British soil. Before that, however, and with my correspondent's express permission, I will relay to you the same story he relayed to me. Apart from one or two minor edits (to protect his identity) the story is told verbatim. Dear Mr King, Many thanks for your very interesting letter . . . I stated in my original letter that . . . . . . One of my roles . . . is to attend functions and speak about [ certain ] activities . One such invitation was arranged by a good friend of mine a couple of years ago, and involved an after-dinner speech in a large hotel . . . I cannot remember the name of the organisation I was addressing, but my audience seemed to consist of a large number of retired former professional men, both civilian and military . . . When the formalities were over, and we headed for the bar, my host literally tugged at my sleeve and led me away from the room. He was a very senior serving Royal Navy officer ( a Commodore, I think ) , and he was extremely nervous and agitated all of a sudden. What he told me follows. This man's daughter worked for the Scientific Civil Service (Department or Branch not speci- fied), having graduated with flying colours in Genetics. She had effectively been head- hunted for the post. He and his wife had become increasingly concerned over the previous year or so that said daughter was becoming more and more introverted and unhappy with her work. Her (non-service) friends had virtually lost touch with her and she seemed to be worried about something but would not open up to her family. Given the likely security clearance her father would hold, this in itself suggests the poor girl was virtually paranoid. Matters had come to a head the previous Christmas when she had stayed with her parents, only to find she had woken the whole house with the most 'blood-curdling screams' my host had ever heard, and that included his service in the Falklands War. THE WATCHER |
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Under very close questioning, it eventually emerged that she had been suffering unspeakable nightmares for months, solely as a result of her work. The scenes she described to her father, and which he relayed to me, subsequently appeared in an episode of 'The X Files' I happened to see. Large tanks of strange-coloured liquids with equally strange alien-type 'beings' suspended in them, linked to monitors , and other equipment, in a huge warehouse-type laboratory. The man's daughter, on medical advice, tendered her resignation but this was refused on the grounds that she had been too intimately involved with the project (whatever it was ) and would be a security risk if she were to walk out. This was of course quite unfair, since she would still have been bound by the Official Secrets Act. She had in fact done her xxxxedest not to release the information which was so troubling her. My host was clearly worried and stated quite unequivocally that he believed his daughter's life was now in danger. From whom and for what reason he did not say. Nor did I ever discover why he had chosen to impart this information to me, who, after all, had been engaged through a mutual friend to offer a lively and amusing account . . . to a group of professional per- sons at their annual dinner. The only possible explanation I can think of is that in the pro- cess of being introduced to my host, earlier in the evening, I had mentioned that I worked at . . . I listened sympathetically, but could offer little in the way of constructive advice, since I hadn't a clue whom to contact or where to start trying to verify his story. All my usual sources drew complete blanks. Maybe yours will have more success, since they seem, from what you say, to be rather more intimately involved in this particular area. Yours sincerely . . . Having read this letter in full I was grateful and gobsmacked, both at once - grateful for the information; gobsmacked that it correlated so precisely, not only with Q's remote viewing information, but with information I had already received from my own sources, including my main intelligence contact, Stealth. According to Stealth, highly secret genetic and mind-control programmes are indeed being carried out at British-based military-industrial facilities, deep underground - facilities so secret, he says, and information regarding their purpose so highly classified and tightly compartmentalized that even the highest-ranking military, intelligence and other government personnel have little (if any) idea of their existence, much less of what goes on in them. Stealth also implied that these experiments were responsible for the so-called `alien abduction' phenomenon - that he had seen briefings to the effect that this phenomenon was a govern- ment propaganda exercise used as a smokescreen behind which its own black-budget scientists dabbled in genetics, eugenics, cloning and mind-control. He sIrongly implied that `human guinea pigs' were being used here, unwittingly, in particular for research into what he called 'human behaviour in response to electronic remote influencing', in other words `implant and mind-control'. Indeed, without actually saying it he implied that perhaps `Special Forces' military were abducting people so that military-industrial scientists could experiment on them, implant them and, while they were under drug- and/ortechnologically-induced hypnosis, fill their minds with 'screen memories' of aliens so that when they came to they would think-assuming they remembered anything at all -that they had been abducted by aliens rather than soldiers. He called it `the perfect cover', so crazy that no one would ever believe it anyway. No one would ever want to believe it. He said that he did not know the complete agenda behind the programme, whether or not the aliens were hands-on involved (or whether they were just being sold as `the patsies'), and neither did he know the precise locations of the `several facilities' where these obscenities were taking place. (Information received from other sources, however, points to an alleged deep-underground military-industrial facility in Berkshire - with entrances at Aldermaston and Greenham Common - as a possible primary site.) Though he reiterated that he did not know the full extent of the agenda behind these programmes, Stealth reminded me that one of its chief aims was to implant certain selected individuals - some civilian, most former military and intelligence personnel with known mental/emotional debilities and/or sexual hang-ups - with the latest mind-control technology. These 'implantees', he reiterated, are known in intelligence circles as `sleeper agents' THE WATCHER |
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Another source (non-intelligence, though someone who holds a sensitive government post) says that he knows several people currently employed at British underground facilities where acquired alien technology and genetics programmes are being carried out. This source also names Berkshire as one of several possible primary sites; oth- ers include Harwell in Oxfordshire, RAE Farnborough in Hampshire and two sites in Scotland. I regret that this is all I am permitted to say regarding this source of information, other than that it is a notably reliable one. For the record, however, one other contact of mine - who also holds a very sensitive government post - claims to know someone who once worked at a deep-underground facility in Berkshire where, he alleges, these kind of pro- grammes have been carried out for decades. He further confirmed that the facility is compartmentalized into an unknown number of sub-facilities and that the programmes carried out there include eugenics, clone-production and hybridization. He stated quite unequivocally that some of the programmes required the participation of either `captured' or `engineered' extraterrestrials. Make of that one what you will. He also claims that buried somewhere beneath RAE Farnborough in Hampshire is a facility stuffed full with files/records on secret-technology projects dating back many decades, and that some of the records refer specifically to `reverse-engineered alien technologies' and `crashed and recovered alien vehicles'. I should add here that one other - entirely independent - source (former RAF) told me that he was once part of a special unit assigned to destroy `secret-technology' files stored beneath RAE Farnborough. I am, of course, unable to substantiate this information. There is, however, one other similar story in circulation that stems from the lips of a man called Barry King. Known also as `The Voice', Mr King claims to be a former employee (security guard) at a top-secret underground facility that he says exists beneath the village of Peasemore in Berkshire. In their attempts to engineer the `perfect human', King says, government scientists are busy creating `programmable life forms' at this facility. He was quoted in an interview conducted for Truth Seekers Review (May/June 1996) as saying: `They have these life forms in jars, lined up in rows, and there are loads of them - rows and rows. To look at them is very spooky, very frightening. The situation is out of control . . .' He added: `We got the technology from the aliens. They gave it to us. It's not a friendly arrangement . . . Our military wanted to get the technology and information and then stab the aliens in the back. The aliens . . . are trying to get genetic material from us . . . For this they need humans. We are business to them. The military are letting them do this to a degree, but there are more military abductions than alien.' THE WATCHER |
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Barry King claims that certain factions within Britain's Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS) are unhappy that these programmes are now being carried out in Britain, and so are endeavouring to 'leak' this information out into the public domain. For this reason they have agreed to protect Mr King from any recriminations he may otherwise have faced for speaking publicly about these matters. In return for his protection, however, he must refrain from publishing certain photographs he claims to possess - photographs taken by DIS operatives and given over into King's safe keeping; photographs that allegedly depict parts of the deep-underground Berkshire complex and its diabolical secrets; photographs that could put this debate to bed, once and for all, should they ever surface in the public domain. To date, they have not. And so there we have it. I do not, of course, expect you or anybody else to simply 'believe' the above without question, but to judge for yourselves the evidence and correlations presented and to draw your own conclusions. Whether or not there actually is a massive deep-underground R&D facility beneath Peasemore (Aldermaston/Greenham Common) in Berkshire, or indeed Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire, must for the time being remain open to further investigation. We have no way of proving the matter one way or the other. But the fact that a sizeable underground complex of bunkers and tunnels exists beneath RAF Rudloe Manor, possibly fanning out to include areas beneath Salisbury Plain, is not in question. It is a matter of public record. And in any case, underground facilities of one kind or another exist at many highly secure British military bases: it would be more out of the ordinary for there not to be an underground facility at such a sensitive installation as Rudloe Manor. During the course of my own investigations I have interviewed and spoken with many still-serving and former military personnel, none of whom deny the existence of underground facilities beneath high- security military bases (there is rumoured to be a massive deep-underground complex beneath RAF Woodbridge and Bentwaters in East Anglia, for example, home to what must surely be Britain's best-known and best-documented military UFO incident to date, the Rendlesham Forest Incident, which occurred in December 1980). The question is therefore not: Do underground facilities exist? Rather: Are there supersecret underground facilities in Britain that are being used by the British-based military- industrial complex to research and develop acquired alien technologies and/or to experiment in eugenics, cloning and hybridization? Do any of these programmes demand the unwitting participation of human guinea pigs? Does this demand precipitate a further demand, that of abducting people, experimenting on them and implanting them with microscopic bits of acquired alien technology? And if so, is it then the very propagation of these pro- grammes that has spawned a need to create the so-called alien abduction scenario as a smokescreen behind which these activities can be carried out? THE WATCHER |
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If the answer to even one these questions is, staggeringly, Yes, then once again, the integrity of the military-industrial complex - and thereby the government - is called very profoundly into question. After all, the military requirement to possess new tech- nologies in advance of the enemy, so to speak, the need to develop and deploy capabilities beyond those of the next superpower, is one thing. To my mind this is a purely logical - if primitive - state of affairs. However, the deliberate use (and abuse) of unwitting citizens in order to attain higher and higher levels of tech- nological superiority is utterly unacceptable. More than this. It is a criminal act, a crime equal to human rights abuse and its perpetrators should be brought to book for that. It is indeed such a crime because - whatever the scheme, whatever the agenda - it serves to elevate the elite few to worlds of untold potential while the rest of us are kept on some evolutionary leash like so many medicated sheep. If only a tiny proportion of `military' UFO reports are genuine - UFOs observed over highly sensitive military bases; UFOs observed by serving military personnel; serving military personnel being used as guinea pigs in genetic/mind-control experiments and/or psychological warfare exercises; unwitting civilians being used by the military in the same way - then either the military-industrial complex is, in its own right, in possession of technology some thirty to fifty years in advance of anything we know about (which in itself is highly suspicious, and utterly unacceptable - the elite on a rollercoaster, the sheep on a leash) or some outside, possibly off-planet source is feeding our governments technological enlightenment in exchange for something we have and it wants. (This latter scenario, of course, would certainly demand the high levels of secrecy currently being employed.) And either way, within the precincts of a free and democratic socio-political system such as that supposed to exist in Britain there are questions that demand answers. Satisfactory answers. As yet, no such satisfactory answers are forthcoming. THE WATCHER |
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Hi Watcher,
I really don't mean any disrespect, but I guess I'll just have to let my end of the 'conversation' end here! I don't understand what it is you're trying to say -- I'd love to read through the entirety of your posts, but I don't have the time!! I do stand by my thoughts posted above, though. I KNOW there are alien abductions occurring out there -- many of them. Some abductions are MILAB in nature -- while these are picking up in number, they are not as frequent as the alien abductions. I completely disagree with Greer's 'research.' I have my own Experiences within which to form an opinion and I must say, I agree with the research findings of Melinda Leslie and Joe Montaldo on this one... :original::original: |
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years bfore knowing of camelot existence i saw dr. steven greer and i found it interesting. Worth a look at his work and his witnesses.
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I think the Disclosure Project was a worthy endeavor although wheeling out compelling UFO witnesses and finishing with Carol Rosin and the fake UFO invasion gave a mixed message.
If you doubt his motivations in other enterprises there's no doubt that the event introduced a lot of people to the subject and that's a good thing. |
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About 50 pages to read, great book, especially how he exposes the black op chicken hawks.
I want to know a few things, example who are the Mr X's and the such he only uses initials on eg Gen Mk ect... I also want to know what's been happening with Steve and co?? I mean by now this should really be expanding, but it seems stuck in 2001? I have looked at his site and it seems again stuck. Would love to see a Project Camelot interview with himke *nudge nudge*! Z |
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I thought of one last thing re: Steven Greer's research re: MILABS. I recall in listening to Melinda Leslie's and Joe Montaldo's most recent interview that fact that one reason these MILABS are NOT the most prevalent of abduction scenarios, IS THE EXPENSE. Thousands if not millions, of people are being abducted -- it's just ludicrous to think that any one government entity or corporation, would have a) enough manpower to pull these things off, and b) the expense would be unthinkable.
The reason, as Melinda suggests, these re-abductions are taking place, is BECAUSE of the alien abduction scenario. Researchers such as Leslie and Montaldo theorize that the various government/military factions do not fully understand the various agendas being carried out by several ET species vis-a-vis the abduction scenario. Melinda states further, that it is apparent these military MILAB personnel are becoming quite desperate in their attempts to solicit information from various alien abductees. Again, as Melinda suggests re: her own MILAB abductions, it seems evident not all is known by our government(s) as to what these Beings are doing. These poor MILAB abductees are qrilled quite extensively by government factions as to what they've been told by the ETs and how much they know about flying the craft. As much as I really do admire Steven Greer, I have to ask just how or why he thinks most abductions are MILAB in nature. His research does not parallel most other research documentation. Further, I have been told by one particular researcher to beware Greer's motives -- not sure I want to get into all of that -- but suffice to say Greer's research does leave me a bit puzzled. |
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been meaning to get stevens book for ages , i realy dig him alot . there is always a few people that you just feel are right on it . so heads up on this .
come back with some comment when i have read it , thanks for bringing it back to my attention .blessings rhythmmmm . |
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Great info my experience confirms this.
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he doesn't seem to be pushing for disclosure much anymore all he really wanted was the classified technologies that could alter life on this planet for the better now he seems to be trying to get them via the Orion Project instead I wonder what made him change his activities away from his original disclosure project |
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Regarding Dr. Greer i´ve heard / read, that he stated something like : he has done everything possible with the Disclosure Project, and the disclosure (which actually has been, due to his presentation with all of the people that backed him up )takes time to seep through all the different "layers" in our world.
I therefore believe that his maingoal right now, is to get some free energy / ZPE out with some help from different scientist... The Orion Project started up like a year ago, but there haven´t been any big breakthroughs yet - SAD. I dont know where they are right now in the process. But let us cross our fingers, coz´ ZPE would really affect the whole world, in a positive way - think about it...WOW:smoke: So now, the whole disclosure-thing, is just a matter of time ( 1 year / 50 years ?) and possible with co-work from others like him, for example : Stephen Basset, Exopolitics or the like. best raggards Jacob |
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That is a very convincing point jakelee, and makes sense
regarding the Orion Project: has he looked into all the other over unity devices out there as there are many techs that have shown promise in terms of weening ourselves off of the fossil fuels completely do these other devices work or not? would it not suit him to check out already existing possibilities? I'm a little lost on that, are most if not all bogus? I am not at all trying to paint Greer in a bad light, I really love the guy, but something isn't making sense to me on this maybe he is just going for the big one...ZPE like jakelee says |
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Jakelee, there are many projects in production, and operating, using alternative energy. Many cities have resorted to wind power, San Francisco, Atlantic City, Buffalo, etc, etc. In Seville Spain they're are constructing the Tesla Grid, to be completed by 2013, which will provide free energy for the whole city. Our politicians who have large money making investments in OIL are keeping us from perfecting atlernative energy.
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Yes I too think it makes sense concerning his efforts with the ZPE thing.
But I must admit, like you said, that probably most / all? of what you find on Youtube about ZPE etc. is bogus. I find it pretty frustrating and have a hard time digesting these videos…so mostly I skip them, hoping some day someone like Dr. Greer states : “ Now its here, the Wonder machine which call for a paradigm shift en masse “ ! I´m not technically skilled or have the money to reproduce all the fancy machines and what have you. I would love too, but it just seems out off reach for me…but i´m having a lot of thoughts regarding this “new society” and how it could look like. In a way it´s strange so many apparently workable units isn´t reproduced by someone. And here the conspiracy begins with all the scientist disappearing, destroyed prototypes, charlatans etc. On the other hand I believe there is something we have overlooked in the physics / Newtonian laws – but again hey i´m not into these sciences and cant explain it…call it a gut feeling. Yes Topper, I think it´s great that a lot of big cities is converting to wind power etc. We have done that (windmills) in the last 30 years here in Denmark, and it is actually a very good business, beside all the beneficial environmental issues. He he, it all started in the 70´s with some hippies, most people laughed at them and thought they were nuts, and now it’s a billion industry...say no more. It is the future ! :thumb_yello: Unfortunately our government stopped the cashflow into our prototype wave energy machines 3 or 4 years ago - I think it´s a crime and hope they will change this course. Interesting with this Tesla Grid in Sevilla…haven´t heard of that technology. Will definitely check it out ! Maybe you´ve got a cool link ? Best Regards |
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Jakelee, in 1898 and 1923 Tesla patented several devices that provide free energy. Unfortunately, Edison had the devices destroyed and his blueprints seized. Info on Tesla is abundant, just google his name and free energy. About your govt. halting funds for alternative energy machines, it's time for the people of Denmark to put pressure on them. Here in the U.S. we created a new form of entertainment called staycation. The govt. wouldn't do anything about the rising cost of gas, so the people stopped using it. Staycations are where people get several videos, make something to eat, get something to drink, and stay home. As this caught on, gas consumption dropped. Now the price of gas is dropping. I wish you well in Denmark, my grandfather hails from Randers, across the bay from Copenhagen.
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Poor Tesla died and the Govt confiscated all his papers. Patents are strange, if you invent something eg free energy device, the Govt knows where to send the Oil Men. Or just refuse the patent application. But if an inventor really wanted to provide the world with his/her invention for free energy, why would they wish to apply for patent in the first place?
As for Dr Greer, He made his move through the Washington Press Club but shortly afterward and before it could pick up steam, 911 occurred. RSF |
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Tesla lost out to Edison. Greer, he claims, through his ce5 protocol, that he can contact et and make them appear. But he can't get enough people to believe him or support him. I suggested that he contact et and ask et to meet him on the great lawn in Washington D.C. at noon on any day, this way everyone will have to believe him. Seeing is believing. To this day, Greer has not attempted my suggestion.
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Greer's Orion Project, an attempt to design, manufacture and sell a practical free energy device (the energy produced is free, the device isn't), should be considered as part of the disclosure effort for the following reason: part of the reason for the cover up of UFOs is to keep a lid on the ET technologies. Once this stuff gets out, the entire economic system built around oil, coal, and other expensive energy sources will be overturned in short order. This is a HUGE BIG DEAL. Once this technology is out, part of the reason for all of the secrecy goes away, along with a big part of the cost of running society, and a gigantic source of pollution. If you know anything about the history of people who had success in this area, you know they have all been shut down one way or another. Will Greer succede? I sure hope so, 'cause there isn't much time left to save the earth from the mess we're making of it.
Is this technology real? I've spent quite a bit of time digging into it, and my opinion is that it is totally real. There are a number of unusual electral phenomena such as "cold electricity" that have been discovered and used by a number of researchers/inventors (Tom Bearden calls this phenomenon Dirac Sea holes). Interactions between electricity/magnetism and gravity have also been discovered multiple times (and shut down). UFOs clearly don't have rocket engines so they must be using some kind of gravitational/field propulsion. T. Townsend Brown (the guy in my icon picture) was an early researcher in electrogravitics. Put two field propulsion units on a shaft and you have an electrogravitic motor - free energy. Townsend Brown demonstrated such a device. There are numerous other ways that have been discovered for extracting energy from the universe without combustion, fission, or fusion, many of which use cold electricity in some way rather than electrogravitics. Greer is not inventing these things himself - he's a medical doctor. He's trying to find legitimate inventors who are already working in this area and support them. There are plenty of free energy hoaxers out there, just like there are plenty of UFO hoaxers. Anybody with half a brain will want to see hard evidence before accepting any device as the real thing. I feel very strongly that Greer is sincere in this effort and has a good plan for getting this technology out to the world. I am not involved in the Orion Project in any way, but I am a supporter. For more information visit the website: The Orion Project |
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i'm reminded of a story dr. greer shared once. it is well known that he has these CE5 protocols. however, it will only work if everybody in the group has peaceful intentions. there was one particular man who wanted to see these ufo's show up because he must have wanted to make a buck or something, not because he genuinely wanted to make contact and become, as greer calls them, an embassador of earth. everytime this man was present and the group would try to make contact, the ETs would not show. however, this particular guy was late one time and, of course, he just missed the contact. what we can conclude here is that unless earth as a whole is ready to make contact and has the correct intentions for desiring contact, the ETs will not show up. therefore, no, they will not land on the whitehouse lawn anytime soon. yes, it would end the debate about the existence of ETs, but the ETs do not have to prove their existence. the proof is abundant for those who wish to find it and can piece it together (quite fankly anytime with half a brain can figure out they exist). landing on the whitehouse lawn would only cause more bad than good at this point in time. but just have patience. the time will come when it will be appropriate for them to do so, it's just not now. |
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Hi all... goody8504 Greer's Gear. Twenty years ago the man acted like JC himself.. 'My (his) Team this, and My Team that. He wanted and insisted on running the whole alien exploration world amongst us researchers. Dr Greer was so invested in himself he would seldom allow others to speak with abc networks documentarians and/or people working with him who had the ufolological experience.
He was stuck up and had a complete Ï'm "(Greer's) in charge attitude" it made all of us feel pretty-bad. But he was a certified anesthesiologist. So kick back a wee-bit and understand there's a bunch of us here that have some knowledge on stuff -- too. RSF |
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