Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

wow...those last shots of cars, are amasing !!!

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

Thanks for that Tesla video link...amazing man. If not for J.P. Morgan, the world might have had unlimited free energy for the past 100 years. I can't even imagine how different the world might be if we didn't have an oil based, profit and greed driven world economy...

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

Did he ever work for the government?

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

Can you imagine that? One man, J.P. Morgan, changed the world for 100 years.

If you could do that, what would you do?

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

yes, he did

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

U. Serenity has the sense of it, really...
"I WANT, I WANT, I WANT"

I happen to enjoy driving.

The day I need "conveying" I hope someone has the good sense to call a hearse to do it.

Electric cars miss the boat on two accounts.
1. They have all the sex appeal, and thrill of an electric toothbrush, or a well designed toilet.

2. They change nothing.
a) You are still converting oil into torque to turn a wheel. The only difference is you are doing it at some power station, instead of at the back of your car. power required, hence oil burned remains the same.
b) "they" still win, because there is still a meter on the amount used; the main reason none of Tesla's ideas never caught on.
c) what you don't spend on electricity you will spend on batteries, with the same disposal problem with a new face.

The best answer going right now is hydrogen. 300 hp engines are easy. A little work produces one at 400 hp. Your car leaves naught behind but a dribble of water.

How it is generated remains the only catch. But it is no more expensive than gasoline, really.

One big difference? Until some country figures out how to corner all the air on the planet over their territory;
* available to all, and
* no shortage exists, is generated.

With a nuclear plant doing the work, it becomes very clean. (ZP comes later, once made commercial)

Until then... I am quite happy with what I chose.

Price as purchased used: $8,900
Mileage: 32 mpg (80 mph on freeway with A/C blasting away, 1 occupant)
Mileage: 28 mpg (2 persons, with luggage, over 500 mile trip)
Mileage: 26 mpg (4 adults, plus "stuff" over 400 mile trip)

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/car/original/pic1.jpg

You also have to factor in one other item, too.
I purchased an already existing vehicle.

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

Who needs a car when you can teleport... :roll1:

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

This car was only a one off model created to demonstrate the possibilities of fuel efficiency coupled with aero dynamics at a show a couple years back, I saw this right after I bought my vw golf tdi in 04. The materials used cost a lot more than $600 to produce.

Re: VW to launch $600 car - gets 258 MPG
 

the price was $25,900, the concept car was scratched. The $600 price was a rumor. For a cheap car, I was told by a Mexican lady that the Ford Focus was $2,500 in Mexico, new. The reason, they charge people in the US more, they exploit the US. No wonder we are stressed. There is money in the US but it's always a secret and people generally buy things, they don't give it to the poor.
In the US are just as many poor that nobody sees on the streets of Los Angeles for example...75K per day...stressing out people going to banks and coffee shops or the post office with their aggressive begging.