Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

here is my view on Alex collier`s draconis...maby this will shad some light on the issue, if it is alex babbling you got it from...


i have never seen an Alpha Draconis or had any experience about it, i have heard Alex tell storys about them. the problem is:

1. an such advanced race would wipe us out quicker then you could say "sunflower" if that was the intension.

2. an advanced race would, in logic, be extreme spiritual and the only destructive force would then be "religion", again they would wipe us out with no mercy if we didnt fit in there "religion".

3. by being highly spiritual they would have knowledge or an opinion on the compose of the universe and would know if we had an place in creation, and if not, again wiped out with no mercy.

4. it do not fit that the Alpha Draconis is such supreme race and so feard that they where cast out some place and dumped here, in an event like that they would surly use their energy on retaliation towards those whom got them "cast out", and the fact that they are "supreme" makes it unrealistic that some other race would have the resources to cast them out...

there are surly races with diff. agendas but the scale doesnt support an all supreme race that bully around in the galaxy.

cheers....

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

plz, dont wast time reading mtsar, hes is an fraud.
look here: http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/en...18_17_11-07_00

and i have read his books and seen all his films, and wow was this a bommer...

ill throw thisone in to.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1QbSrNZQUQ

Originally Posted by Dominic (Post 17226)

and he can pick them out in a crowd. He said that they produce a weird or no aura. He has pointed them out to me.

They have been here a long time.

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

1. an such advanced race would wipe us out quicker then you could say "sunflower" if that was the intension.

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

2. an advanced race would, in logic, be extreme spiritual and the only destructive force would then be "religion", again they would wipe us out with no mercy if we didnt fit in there "religion".

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

3. by being highly spiritual they would have knowledge or an opinion on the compose of the universe and would know if we had an place in creation, and if not, again wiped out with no mercy.

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

4. it do not fit that the Alpha Draconis is such supreme race and so feard that they where cast out some place and dumped here, in an event like that they would surly use their energy on retaliation towards those whom got them "cast out", and the fact that they are "supreme" makes it unrealistic that some other race would have the resources to cast them out...

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

there are surly races with diff. agendas but the scale doesnt support an all supreme race that bully around in the galaxy.
cheers....

Originally Posted by Nik (Post 17109)

Just stumbled onto the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2fRg...eature=related

Just a hyper-rare deformity or evidence of Reptilian influence?

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 18030)

im skeptical about an advanced race feeding off of us as well.

the whole idea of another class of beings being EVOLVED means that they realistically would be past this warfare stage of 3rd dimensional evolution.
i think if they WERE warlike theyd either wipe themselves out or would be monitored by advanced beings that made sure they kept their lunacy contained on their native biosphere.

in either case why would another advanced race "dump" them here, karmically speaking that advanced race would infact be responsible for much of our pain and misery if they did and im sure theyd know this. second why would other advanced races monitoring us not immediately get rid of the non native race manipulating us? if you monitor a zoo you dont let the tigers get through the hole in the wall to the penguins.

think about this, we must have a quarratine on us by advanced races until we can figure out peace. we've back engineered technology to the point where we COULD explore our solar system and perhaps our galaxy but we havent. why would they let us potentially harm other planets and species? clearly they are limiting our exploration for our own good as well as the good of other races. now keeping that in mind, why would "greys" or "reptillians" be allowed to leave there biospheres and tamper with us?

this is why dr steven greer's POV makes most sense, that greys and reptillians are manufactured by black ops programs using psychotronic devices and most ufology/paranormal sites accept the "abduction phenomena" as real, and who could blame them, i would too if i didnt do the research into this realm that i have, as well as pose common sense questions.

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 18030)

im skeptical about an advanced race feeding off of us as well.

the whole idea of another class of beings being EVOLVED means that they realistically would be past this warfare stage of 3rd dimensional evolution.
i think if they WERE warlike theyd either wipe themselves out or would be monitored by advanced beings that made sure they kept their lunacy contained on their native biosphere.

in either case why would another advanced race "dump" them here, karmically speaking that advanced race would infact be responsible for much of our pain and misery if they did and im sure theyd know this. second why would other advanced races monitoring us not immediately get rid of the non native race manipulating us? if you monitor a zoo you dont let the tigers get through the hole in the wall to the penguins.

think about this, we must have a quarratine on us by advanced races until we can figure out peace. we've back engineered technology to the point where we COULD explore our solar system and perhaps our galaxy but we havent. why would they let us potentially harm other planets and species? clearly they are limiting our exploration for our own good as well as the good of other races. now keeping that in mind, why would "greys" or "reptillians" be allowed to leave there biospheres and tamper with us?

this is why dr steven greer's POV makes most sense, that greys and reptillians are manufactured by black ops programs using psychotronic devices and most ufology/paranormal sites accept the "abduction phenomena" as real, and who could blame them, i would too if i didnt do the research into this realm that i have, as well as pose common sense questions.

Originally Posted by motov (Post 17128)

here is my view on Alex collier`s draconis...maby this will shad some light on the issue, if it is alex babbling you got it from...


i have never seen an Alpha Draconis or had any experience about it, i have heard Alex tell storys about them. the problem is:

1. an such advanced race would wipe us out quicker then you could say "sunflower" if that was the intension.

2. an advanced race would, in logic, be extreme spiritual and the only destructive force would then be "religion", again they would wipe us out with no mercy if we didnt fit in there "religion".

3. by being highly spiritual they would have knowledge or an opinion on the compose of the universe and would know if we had an place in creation, and if not, again wiped out with no mercy.

4. it do not fit that the Alpha Draconis is such supreme race and so feard that they where cast out some place and dumped here, in an event like that they would surly use their energy on retaliation towards those whom got them "cast out", and the fact that they are "supreme" makes it unrealistic that some other race would have the resources to cast them out...

there are surly races with diff. agendas but the scale doesnt support an all supreme race that bully around in the galaxy.

cheers....

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 18030)

the whole idea of another class of beings being EVOLVED means that they realistically would be past this warfare stage of 3rd dimensional evolution.

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 18288)

I'm sceptical that everything in this universe is made of love and light, if we look at our own planet maybe it can be used as an example of our galaxy just on a smaller scale. We have many predators that feed off other lifeforms just to survive and i cant see that this would have to be much different on a galactic scale.

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle (Post 6176)

Hi thanks for your post i'm altogether along your lines and am along your path-it's quite overgrown the path is i know but we can still see the way beneath the overgrowth.This i'm posting to add to your post-sounds from hell on Art bell,it was recorded in siberia through a geophone whilst geologists were taking seismic soundings in an underground cave-this is what they recorded!Interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnxeX2SQso

Originally Posted by Astral (Post 6089)

For the last 18 months I've been researching this reptilian subject. If I recall correctly, the first time I got in touch with it was due to Mr. Icke, I suppose.
A subject like this would most likely be discussed under Science fiction, but than again, who fed us with this idea of "Science fiction", right Those we are in control.

Anyhow, I would have never thought this subject would get so deep.
It really got my attention when I stumbled upon some documents describing these beings as "horned", "most likely living underground near a fireplace" and "feeding itself with our substance of life-blood".:shocked: These descriptions would come from several sources, whom have no direct affiliation with each other.

-Several testimonies from those whom were (by force) part of the MK-ultra project
-Numerous testimonies of men who were involved with the Montauk project
-The main source of David Icke: Credo Mutwa
- Courtney Brown who gathered his Remote viewing sessions into a book.
-Alex collier, by far the most elaborate in on this subject.

-Our belief systems, myths, legends and our own freaking society based on draconian laws.
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Credo mutwa video 1
Credo Mutwa video 2
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Courtney Brown
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Alex collier
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Dulce underground facility
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Montauk testimony 1
Montauk testimony 2

At some point I got stuck on a stalemate. You have a draconian influence from Africa (Zulu's) to India (Caste system), from China (Dragons) to Western factions (Illuminati). Where does it really begin?

I turns out we ought to be looking at it from a completely different perspective, the subspace angle if you will. I've read about "fallen guardians, Angels". We know life goes on when we leave our body behind. We move on to a different realm.

I tried to read as much as possible about this subject: Near-Death-Experiences which ties to the astral world. Sure enough some mentioned this place called "Hell". Knowing the astral world is a spiritual world, not a physical, hell is most likely created by the own individual.

I'm still somewhat confused on
this stage. But this draconian influence we suffer from would directly be controlled by those souls which operate from the astral, subspace world.
How about that!:sweatdrop:

This would explain all the rituals the have been going on in these secret societies. It all boils down to control, even at the upper part of the pyramide.
No doubt this subject ties in with an even bigger one.

Sure enough we could start a debate about the validity of all this. Disinformation or not, we need some inspiration to lift off.

As always I never try to judge or interpret the information at hand, so If one would have some additional info on this matter..by all means :gun_bandana:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 91797)

Right, and Elvis Presley was born in Russia....

Originally Posted by King Lear (Post 18412)

A very very good argument:thumb_yello:

Do you guys not remember movies like Mars Attacks, War of the Worlds, Independence Day, Predator...?
If there really would be an extraterrestial warrior-race with laser weapons and so on, we wouldn't be here anymore.
They would have wiped us out so easily.

Just remember history and how easy a few dozen Spaniards with black powder muskets and a few cannons were able to wipe out thousands of Indians (Mayas and Atztecs).