* urgent*update newsflash for uk people

[Kate]

I have just received this message from Bill. This possibly has major implications for anyone living in the UK or planning on being in the UK over the next month. The message indicates that something BIG is going down in the next 30 days.... judge for yourself...! :shocked:


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IMPORTANT: Listen to this very short (1 min 40 secs) clip from Steve Quayle's 'emergency" radio broadcast on Sunday nght, 36 hours ago: http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle.mp3 . I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, but it jumped right out of the programme at me... please share with all the UK mods and post to the forum for the UK people to figure out what this means.
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[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

full economic collapse.. in my opinion..

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

with maybe an attack on big ben like the nwo illuminati card game set shows.. or major bio weapons release.

[Steve_A]

Hi Kate,

I like to see where my information source is and did a little recky. Look what I dug up about the American issue:

Here's something that John McCain and Barack Obama and Sarah Palin and even longtime Washingtonian Joe Biden probably don't know. Not to mention Bob Barr, Ralph Nader and Ron Paul, who usually knows everything.

It's a fascinating footnote to the economic and political bailout debate that's kept so many people from more properly focusing on the pennant races and the Colts' problems in the last week. (Incidentally, do you think we'd have had this big fight if President Bush had called it a "rescue" plan instead?)

Our buddy from two lifetimes ago, Carl Lavin over at Forbes.com, points out a fascinating paragraph buried in a story on his website late last week by Brian Wingfield and Josh Zumbrun.

You know, this $700-billion figure that exploded into everyday political parlance almost as fast as Sarah?

The $700-billion "cost" of resolving the financial crisis and restoring confidence and liquidity in the credit markets starting this morning?

The $700-billion figure that Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid first said he could really use McCain's help with, but then the Arizonan took him up on it and Reid suddenly said the Republican would only get in the way and anyway, Reid said, he already had a done deal, except he didn't and the Nevadan ended up being the embarrassed one?

The $700-billion figure that dominated the first part of the first presidential debate of the 2008 general election season between McCain and Obama?

The $700-billion figure that won't really end up being anywhere near the actual cost because no one knows what all those mortgaged properties are really worth now anyway? Which is the whole problem in the first place because the institutions holding that paper don't know the value of what they're holding either, which is why everyone suddenly got so frightened?

That $700-billion figure that won't really last because eventually the feds will sell off what they're buying and might even make a profit in the end as they did with the Chrysler bailout warrants years ago?

You know where that very important $700-billion figure came from?

Here's a quote from that Forbes story:

"It's not based on any particular data point," a Treasury spokeswoman told Forbes.com Tuesday. "We just wanted to choose a really large number."

http://www.forbes.com/businessinthebeltway/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html

They made it up to be sufficiently ginormous to frighten everyone into rapid action.

And it worked.

--Andrew Malcolm



Best regards,

Steve








:mfr_omg:

I have just received this this message from Bill. This possibly has major implications for anyone living in the UK or planning on being in the UK over the next month. The message indicates that something BIG is going down in the next 30 days.... judge for yourself...! :shocked:


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IMPORTANT: Listen to this very short (1 min 40 secs) clip from Steve Quayle's 'emergency" radio broadcast on Sunday nght, 36 hours ago: http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle.mp3 . I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, but it jumped right out of the programme at me... please share with all the UK mods and post to the forum for the UK people to figure out what this means.
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Aloha Steve,

I was reading your post and had a flash of how printed money is completely unreal and of no value. Perhaps this was a glimps into a future time, future place, yet it seemed real in the moment.

[kassych]

Whatever happens, we were born for this time. we can handle it.

[mikey]

Interesting...i can see an economic collapse of some degree too...or some sort of internal unrest...demonstrations, riots and social unrest...

that is ofcourse my personal initial feeling :smoke:

this ofcourse is another possibility http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/health/3103202/Deadly-Australian-flu-may-strike-this-winter.html

peace
bananaman

[Steve_A]

Hi bananaman,

From the same newspaper:

The biggest studies of their kind have shown how seasonal flu epidemics are born in the Far East, sweep westwards and then die out in South America, crucial intelligence to improve influenza vaccines.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/04/16/sciflu116.xml

Thank goodness I'm in South America! :D

Best regards,

Steve


Interesting...i can see an economic collapse of some degree too...or some sort of internal unrest...demonstrations, riots and social unrest...

that is ofcourse my personal initial feeling :smoke:

this ofcourse is another possibility http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/health/3103202/Deadly-Australian-flu-may-strike-this-winter.html

peace
bananaman

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

so basically this is crunch time. we stay or go right now.. i think ill stay as i cant speak spanish. im looking at gautamla of chile of bolivia but those places will be dangerous for a white face when food gets scarce. looks like uk it is then ... boooooo

[Pamela]

The reason someone is leaving could be for any reason, not necessarily a financial collapse, or a flu or a weather related issue.... perhaps they are in trouble with the law and trying to get out before being caught.

Negativity breeds negativity, in my opinion.

Sometimes I think it is good that the "masses" have not awakened, perhaps if they did and they read and worried like the few, these negativities would become realitys.

:winksmiley02:

[Kate]

fair point pamela!!

This had to be posted though...every scrap of info that can help to build a picture of what is likely to happen here in the uK is needed. Very little is known about the plans here...UK is VERY secretive.....
My feeling is information IS power!

peace to you all
kate

[mikey]

The reason someone is leaving could be for any reason, not necessarily a financial collapse, or a flu or a weather related issue.... perhaps they are in trouble with the law and trying to get out before being caught.

Negativity breeds negativity, in my opinion.

Sometimes I think it is good that the "masses" have not awakened, perhaps if they did and they read and worried like the few, these negativities would become realitys.

:winksmiley02:

Good post....negativity does breed negativity and in all honesty the persons in question could well be leaving for any number of reasons....especially with this ongoing economic shambles we are enduring, not to mention other places in the world...it wudnt suprise me if they were caught up in it

peace
bananaman

[spaceman44]

I think whatever this threat is, Britain will stick together like we allways have in the past, "United we stand united we fall".

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

id like to form small groups and stick together. united in thast sense. but we cant save everyone. if there is civil unrest and police raids, martial law ect then. we muat act normally and not get involved and not mention to anyone that we have food stocks survival gear or anything else.. geurilla tactics will keep us alive.. :)

[Bobcat]

Holy moley-Thats freaked me out a bit.

Tight lines everyone x

[Steve_A]

Hi spaceman44,

Divided we fall. :)

Best regards,

Steve


I think whatever this threat is, Britain will stick together like we allways have in the past, "United we stand united we fall".

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im not feared just with all this information i want to be prepared. ie a bot of foood ect.. se how long people stay spiritual onvce the chaos starts.. i have a nice balance of both. practicality and spirituality.

[scanner]

:mfr_omg:Calm everybody cool thinking for now wait and see be prepared:wink2:
if you stike me down you make me stonger

[Floyd]

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[QueenOfLeon]

I think it is safe to say, that once martial law is in the UK acting normal wont be possible. The streets will be policed, to the point where you will have to ID yourself. Im thinking that as soon as they see my name considering I , for merely knowing about this stuff, am on a list and considered a "threat" or a "terrorist".When clearly i am nothing of the sort. Even all the sheep arent safe im guessing, and Im not a sheep. And I dont fancy being culled much, so digging deep and acting normal I dont think is a possibility. We are all on a list somewhere because we know abit about this stuff.

"move on quietly please miss"

hmmm I dont see them saying that!!

[Bobcat]

Does anyone know if more information from the Whistleblower is coming ?

They are turning our street lights off in Wales, they started a few weeks ago.

Everything just stinks tbh and my gut is rolling.

[ladyluck]

Seeing as I'm based about 20 miles outside London, I'm sitting tight with my younger sister who is aware with what is going on, in the bigger picture sense.

However, we have a backup plan in that my older sister has just set up base a few months ago in Panama and invited us over any time we want. So that is on the back burner.

But I personally feel that staying where i am right now resonates with me, and I am curently developing my spirituality and mental/emotional capabilities for this historic time.

I'm not worried or afraid.... that's just feeding into what they want.

Blessings to all!

[ladyluck]

Does anyone know if more information from the Whistleblower is coming ?

They are turning our street lights off in Wales, they started a few weeks ago.

Everything just stinks tbh and my gut is rolling.


funny thing.... slough council turned out street lights in certain areas here too, since feb 2008.

[Operator]

I don't think it's the flu .... probably bigger critters ...

[Bobcat]

Maybe so..

Would be nice to shed some more light on the information though eh.

[Operator]

I explicitly did not ... to see if someone got the same feeling as I did.

I am not even half "passed" human :tongue2: ... but I was sub-consciously correlating all kind of stuff for a second ...

- lot of crop-circles in the UK
- increasing UFO slap in the UK
- lot of secrecy in the UK
- I saw a witness recently about ET cloning in underground bases

Unfortunately I cannot remember who he is but he seems to have extensive knowledge about an advanced program.
When watching the interview I did get a 'nasty' feeling about it. This feeling just popped up again when reading this news.

So absolutely no hard evidence that I 'know' something ... just a gut feeling ...

[iainl140285]

RIGHT ON KASSYCH!!!! ;)

Peace
Iain


Whatever happens, we were born for this time. we can handle it.

[swordsmith]

wow, wish they'd turn the bloomin street lights of here, never did like mercury vapor, sounds like GOOD news to me!

[mikey]

If im honest theres a massive part of me thats screaming at how exciting this all is...everything....in our lifetime!
Despite this **** we are all bound to endure all over the world...or maybe not...this is still undoubtedly an exciting time in our history and i dont think for a second that any of us, especially on this forum are here by accident.

there are no coincidences...

keep smiling
peace
bananaman

[Avid]

For goodness sake - stop it! It's like the old biddies with bosoms and folded arms over the garden fence!
What proof?
What proof has 'Bill' via the mod? And where is 'Bill'???
Until there are any more NEUTRAL indicators please stop this nonsense.
I am not one who will PANIC - but please posters - lets' get a rational handle on this latest fear-mongering tactic, there are lots of things happening in this world that are tragic - the poor folk in war-torn countries, the imbecilic power-hungry mob at the helm of doom - we should really CONCENTRATE ON them into the light of positivety. NOW!!!
..and by the way - that stupid audio broadcast - give it a wide berth - it's a giant lie. Anyone wanting to leave UK within 30 days and make a loss must be from the guilty participants trying a last-minute bargaining scam. This audio broadcast smells - A LOT!!!
Whatever the weather we'll stick together eh? Lots of love to all x

[Donny]

I appI have lost track of this thread, but, maybe they had all there savings and their mortgage with B&B and fear losing the lot, maybe they have had all they can take from blighty

[Tcon]

follow the money and you will see the puppet masters, they are the ones that stand to gain from all of this...:D
Tcon

[pilgrim]

Well said Avid, INTENTION is what creates the future and the PTB know this, that is why they are trying to get people to focus on the negative aspect of things.
Directing our thoughts and intentions on fear and negativity will create that situation. The opposite of fear is love. I don't mean for people to go 'round with flowers in their hair blowing kisses at everyone. Be aware of their game plan and stay in the positive.., negative thinking is part of how they have conditioned us.

[Kate]

For goodness sake - stop it! It's like the old biddies with bosoms and folded arms over the garden fence!
What proof?
What proof has 'Bill' via the mod? And where is 'Bill'???
Until there are any more NEUTRAL indicators please stop this nonsense.
I am not one who will PANIC - but please posters - lets' get a rational handle on this latest fear-mongering tactic, there are lots of things happening in this world that are tragic - the poor folk in war-torn countries, the imbecilic power-hungry mob at the helm of doom - we should really CONCENTRATE ON them into the light of positivety. NOW!!!
..and by the way - that stupid audio broadcast - give it a wide berth - it's a giant lie. Anyone wanting to leave UK within 30 days and make a loss must be from the guilty participants trying a last-minute bargaining scam. This audio broadcast smells - A LOT!!!
Whatever the weather we'll stick together eh? Lots of love to all x




HI there,
I have reponded to your PM and handed it over to Bill/Kerry and other Mods.

There was no intention to 'panic' people.

peace
kate

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

avid who is panicing.. you fail to see the difference between knowingt the facts and hopeing it wont happen.. the economy will collapse that is fact.. im not sat here quivering behind my computer, im sorry if itcomes across like that. im positive. this system has to go. i wont be moving with it.. people get the info and then can do what they wish weith it.. its you who seems to have fear avid.. and others, any mention of possible scenarios thast are less than palatable brings out all the spell casters to whooo away the negativity.. information is information is wha tyou do with it that makes it pos or neg. :) peace

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

people here are equating economic meltdown with fear .. im not one fo them.. is tyhsat negative, not to me personaly

[izz]

For goodness sake - stop it! It's like the old biddies with bosoms and folded arms over the garden fence!
What proof?
What proof has 'Bill' via the mod? And where is 'Bill'???
Until there are any more NEUTRAL indicators please stop this nonsense.
I am not one who will PANIC - but please posters - lets' get a rational handle on this latest fear-mongering tactic, there are lots of things happening in this world that are tragic - the poor folk in war-torn countries, the imbecilic power-hungry mob at the helm of doom - we should really CONCENTRATE ON them into the light of positivety. NOW!!!
..and by the way - that stupid audio broadcast - give it a wide berth - it's a giant lie. Anyone wanting to leave UK within 30 days and make a loss must be from the guilty participants trying a last-minute bargaining scam. This audio broadcast smells - A LOT!!!
Whatever the weather we'll stick together eh? Lots of love to all x

totally agree

how is an alarmist post helpful ..''news flash UK something dreadful is gonna happen .. but we dont know what it is .. so we cant advise you''

sorry to sound annoyed but it is unproductive .. unhelpful .. and feeding bad energy ..

do you think our grandparents in the 2ww acted like this .. when they actually had bombs being dropped on their heads, food rationing and war .. i dont think so ..

what is wrong with our generation !

can we all just focus on what we KNOW and the positive results ..

a general negative alert means nothings ... it however is harmful to scare monger like this

LETS ACT WHEN WE HAVE A REASON TOO AND KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE ARE

[Donny]

Avolon, said simply but truefully, well done. Truth made from our fears.

[Kate]

IZZ,
I do acknowledge what you are saying and have also sent a private message to Avid.

As stated before....it was not intended to be 'alarmist'..just posting and pasting what had been reported by bill. If, nothing untowards happens in the next 30 days...FANTASTIC!

I really hope this will be the end of any 'issues' people have regarding passing on some 'snippet' of info that 'may' be useful rto know.

all the best
kate

[izz]

IZZ,
I do acknowledge what you are saying and have also sent a private message to Avid.

As stated before....it was not intended to be 'alarmist'..just posting and pasting what had been reported by bill. If, nothing untowards happens in the next 30 days...FANTASTIC!

I really hope this will be the end of any 'issues' people have regarding passing on some 'snippet' of info that 'may' be useful rto know.

all the best
kate


thank you kate .. i know your intention was not to be alarmist ..

but i feel ill after reading all the alarmist posts on here tonight .. about how my life is gonna end .. how we are all going to die .. how we are all going to starve how we are all going to lose our homes and jobs ..

i cant cope :)

that is nt my reality .. and i need to go and chill and dream some sweet dreams and wake up refreshed .. and happy like i was this morning :sleep_1:

namaste

[Avid]

avid who is panicing.. you fail to see the difference between knowingt the facts and hopeing it wont happen.. the economy will collapse that is fact.. im not sat here quivering behind my computer, im sorry if itcomes across like that. im positive. this system has to go. i wont be moving with it.. people get the info and then can do what they wish weith it.. its you who seems to have fear avid.. and others, any mention of possible scenarios thast are less than palatable brings out all the spell casters to whooo away the negativity.. information is information is wha tyou do with it that makes it pos or neg. :) peace

I know - I don't fear - but i DID! After looking at the giant picture, even little ants can annoy the big yins!!! (And hopefully win eh?). What annoys me is the fairness and 'dis'honesty of the MSM - are they ALL bought and paid for? Maybe not now - but did you see the cowards coming home to roost yesterday? "We won't support you unless you do as we elected you for" by the electorate, so the bought and paid for politicians are suddenly becoming - er - honest? It's heartening, however, the tons of gold bullion sequestered by the owners of the FED, even to the last desperate grab, are NOT in Fort Knox, but trillions deep deep in vaults in their pyramids of greed, under NYC, and many other places, awaiting their 'rapture' of folly of their 'New World Order'.
They still want their drastic poisons via Big Pharma, martial law, FEMA death camps, torture, deviant 'false flags', but the bottom line is - they don't fool the world any more.
So:
WHAT ARE WE ALL DOING ABOUT IT!!!!
How can they possibly go on WHEN WE KNOW!!!!

[eurosceptic]

I can' believe all police are going to be going along with IDing and all the rest - The top brass military are barely going along with the war(s) scenario and only as they have pressure....I should think....?

Any ex Brit Military out there want to put their 10 pence worth in???



I say do not pass go do not collect £200 !!!!!!:biggrin2::thumb_yello:

[Powerinourhandsl]

Unfortunately for the uk the story seems almost the same as the american one , this was the news on yahoo.co.uk ..I also note that Gordon Brown was convieniently in the states for a chat with bush ..

David Cameron and Nick Clegg have offered the government bi-partisan support to help solve the banking crisis.


The Conservative leader on Tuesday offered Gordon Brown co-operation with passing emergency legislation in Parliament.

The Liberal Democrat leader also wrote to his two counterparts calling for cross-party talks.

Following the surprise defeat of the US administration's 700 billion dollar bailout of the banking system, the prime minister spoke to both men to update them on the economic situation.

And Cameron revealed that he told Brown that he could expect a more consensual approach in the House of Commons

WHAT!!!

Its the same the world over lol

[QueenOfLeon]

But is anywhere safe? with it being the new world order!!! Clue's kinda in the title isnt it!

This does get me worrying though, must stay positive, must stay positive....

I dreamt about black helicopters and giant dragons overtaking the town the other night.

*sigh*

[Bill Ryan]

For goodness sake - stop it! It's like the old biddies with bosoms and folded arms over the garden fence!
What proof?
What proof has 'Bill' via the mod? And where is 'Bill'???
Until there are any more NEUTRAL indicators please stop this nonsense.
I am not one who will PANIC - but please posters - lets' get a rational handle on this latest fear-mongering tactic, there are lots of things happening in this world that are tragic - the poor folk in war-torn countries, the imbecilic power-hungry mob at the helm of doom - we should really CONCENTRATE ON them into the light of positivety. NOW!!!
..and by the way - that stupid audio broadcast - give it a wide berth - it's a giant lie. Anyone wanting to leave UK within 30 days and make a loss must be from the guilty participants trying a last-minute bargaining scam. This audio broadcast smells - A LOT!!!
Whatever the weather we'll stick together eh? Lots of love to all x

Hi, Avid:

It was this Bill :)

The clip I extracted for the UK audience came from this hour long 'special' radio broadcast by Steve Quayle, on Sunday evening (28 Sept).

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_september_28_2008.mp3

Steve Quayle's guest, John Galt, read an e-mail in the middle of the program (23:20, to be precise), purporting to be from a British citizen who had been working for the United Nations for nearly five years.

This man, with his wife, had just placed a non-refundable deposit on a house in or near Montana (where Quayle is based), to hold the house until he could get there in October.

That much seemed clear. The part I told Kate I did not fully understand - and still don't - was when Galt seemed to go on to read from the e-mail that this was because "They can't return home for the next 30 days."

Steve Quayle - who is no fool - immediately responded "WOW". Galt then went on to describe the UK as being potentially more vulnerable than the US from the current economic condition.

I felt this was important and I asked Kate to post it for the attention of our members in the UK. I told her that I would welcome assistance in interpreting this.

I'm still alarmed. We're looking at pieces of a jigsaw puzzle before us on a giant table. We have enough of the pieces to see the general size and shape of the picture. To change the metaphor, with this new intriguing snippet we now have 15 separate data points pointing to significant events in October which seem to be known or anticipated but which have not yet occurred.

These data points make up what statisticians would term a significant cluster. There's a pattern. Taken together, they mean something. You can see a trend and a direction and correlation and confirmation.

There are NO outlying points which do not fit. We've heard from no-one (for instance), quletly telling us "Relax, this is all a giant PsyOp to scare the consipracy theorists; nothing's going to happen and it was all just a data-gathering exercise."

On the contrary, every person we talk to who's qualified to offer an opinion (and the last was Bill Deagle, who we met on Sunday) feels in their bones - as well as intellectually from analyzing data - that we may be on the verge of something large and well worth trying to anticipate. What this is, we still do not know.

Very best to all, Bill

[Anchor]

Here we go again :original:

Alarm! Panic! Concerns! The pangs associated with the sudden re-considerations of plans long put on hold and regret that they were not carried out? Etc etc.

Your spirits were meant to be flying high, living in the NOW, in the beauty and grace of this very moment!

Your spirits are not supposed to be sent spinning out of control in some kind of spiritual death spiral, weighed down by fears or worries about something in the future, informed or triggered by unfiltered, undiscerned and untested words.

Can't you hear the spiritual speaker in the cabin of your spiritual aeroplane?

Its shouting at you all:

*PULL UP*
*PULL UP*
*PULL UP*
*PULL UP - and let all our spirits soar free.

--

You already know why! Each time you focus on fear reactions, no matter how small, and especially the sorts of highly energised people we have here on Project Avalon, you are doing REAL harm to the planet, to other people here and finally to yourselves.

You are exactly where you need to be.

Be here now.

Listen to your own selves.

I am no air-head. Practical preparations should be made for inconviences, but nothing seriously radical - and then once you have made those preparations, let it go. Enjoy the ride.

Thanks for reading this, blessings to us all in the love and in the light of all that is.

A..

[2infinityandbeyond]

ohh honestly, bring it on. Ive shaved my cat and ate 2 box's of pringles, im ready!!

[DoctorWho]

ohh honestly, bring it on. Ive shaved my cat and ate 2 box's of pringles, im ready!!

Dare I asked if you shaved anything else? :lol3:
Bill "the Doctor"
P.S. I can do a can of Pringles and a bag of Doritos.

[Brinty]

Sit tight people. I think it will be a lot grimmmer in a year or so but there is still sufficient time to get sorted and remain positive before thing gstart becoming odd. dont let the bastards get yer down Just a gut feeling.

Aha, that comment reminded me of our squadrom motto back in 1955 -"NIL BASTARDIO CARBORUNDUM" - or, in the common vernacular, "Don't let the bastards grind you down."

There's nothing to fear but fear itself. I'm not afraid of the dark, but the noises I hear scare the tripe out of me! :mfr_omg:

No that's not tripe, tripe's white. :tongue2:

[Alysse]

:mfr_omg::mfr_lol: :lmfao: If we keep laughing all the baddies will go away and we will be left with only happy folks.

ohh honestly, bring it on. Ive shaved my cat and ate 2 box's of pringles, im ready!!

[Alysse]

:woot_jump:That is way too funny!! Dare I asked if you shaved anything else? :lol3:
Bill "the Doctor"
P.S. I can do a can of Pringles and a bag of Doritos.

[Sol Invictus]

Interesting.

Alot of folks I know have moved my way or out to wilder places such as midwales ect.

First sign of the shtf I am off with my BOB and family to the back of beyond.

[clayman]

whatever happens, we were born for this time. We can handle it.

word

doesn't matter what obstacle, we can deal with it. Just don't start moving because of the collapse. For me this means more time with nature :)

[Digi]

Eh, I dunno. That guy sounds a little alarmist if you ask me. It's a big jump to say that a total collapse of British society means a take over by a Banking cartel. It's an even bigger one to say that someone feeling they won't be able to return to their home means total collapse of British society.

On the other hand, I have had a feeling something is coming down the pipe in October for quite a while now. Not only a hunch, but some dreams, friends' dreams, and a few predictions all seem to centre around this time period.

That said, "something coming down the pipe" is not always apocalypse. In fact it *rarely* is. My hope is that everyone stays calm and collected. Crises precipitate change. Let's be far-thinking, and positive.

[Artycarl]

I would disagree with the statement in the audio that the UK's sub prime mortgage exposure was worse than that in the US.

There is a global meltdown happening but the UK is better placed than many countries due to its sounder fiscal policy.

[Artycarl]

As a follow up to my last post.

I just heard from a good friend of mine who has a family member in a powerful position in the banking industry and was told this and I quote:

"We are not being told the true extent of the current crisis in UK financial institutions, the sh*t hasn't even begun to hit the fan yet"

Interesting in the context of this story.

[Mark]

Rumours are abound. Flu - the Government saying that there is to be another attack. If the Queen is out of the country, then there is a great chance that something could happen.

The U.K. seems a harder nut to crack then most of the world for the powers-that-be I feel, so I think if they are going to do anything at all, then it's going to be a big one!

I think it maybe time to drop money altogether - it's got us into more stress and worry for as long as we have had it - do things for others because you want to do them for them and to better the 'self'.

The worse they can do it take my life but that is not the end of me, is it?

[Jacqui D]

We have had the flu crisis put into the papers just a few days ago apparently Australia has had an epidemic, perhaps any Aussies who look in on this site can shed any light on this.
But then this morning in my post i received a letter from my doctors surgery saying that i was on the list for a flu jab apparently i was on their list of high risks!!!!

I'll be turning that one down i think hmmmm!

Is it not true that all banking systems run from Britain anyway we are the forefront of all banking?
We probably are going to go down worse than America.

Have to disagree with one of the earlier posts saying the Good Old British solidarity!!!! Well sorry but we are a minority now in our country when the crunch comes i can't see any of that good old world war 2 spirit that our parents had, that's gone now folks, people walk past you in the streets these days if you need a hand.
Just look at the news, it is not a good idea to step in on any confrontations you are likely to get stabbed or shot, no i'm afraid that good old sprirt has gone sadly.:tears:

[Jacqui D]

I would like to think that the Uk would be okay but if you have been following any news of late more and more of our banks, building societies are now being taken over by other countries.
If you look behind any bank now you will find that it is always owned by someone else.
We have lost nearly all our assets now in Britain, we do not own our own energy anymore, gas, electric is owned by either Germany, France or Russia.
And if they decide to pull te plug then that's our energy gone!!!
We have already been warned of energy cuts this winter, so stock up on candles, alternative cooking fascilities, ie; camping stoves, bar b ques etc.:sad:

[SpaceMonkey]

yup, sounds like an economic catastrophy to me, although it doesn't surprise me because it's been looking like this for a while now. Also it won't be good for the usa either, There's a saying here in the uk, "when america sneezes, britain catches a cold", very true.

[Alysse]

Have we ever understood why they only needed to be out of the country for 30 days? Almost any catastrophy would take longer than that to clear....and if it's all that bad, one probably couldn't even make it back at all or for some longer period of time. So, wonder what it could be that only takes an absence of 30 days??

[Bobcat]

Nah, what he said was that somthing big is going to happen within the next 30 days.

So he's outa here with his family.

[Alysse]

Oh I see, he may be intending to never go back.

Nah, what he said was that somthing big is going to happen within the next 30 days.

So he's outa here with his family.

[SpaceMonkey]

some people are getting really wound up about this thread but i for one want to thank Kate and Bill because it's a great find. I don't think some people realise that these forums are here for awareness, so poeple need to get their head out of the sand and take a look around them no matter how bad it the truth is. This economic crisis is deliberately orchestrated by the central banks and we are headed for something really BIG, i knew this before hearing this audio clip. If people want to here lies wrapped around a nice protective blanket then turn on the tv, if people want the gritty truth then do some research.

[Bobcat]

Well, that was a bit sharp SM. If you care somtimes it's hard not to get a littlehot under the collar.

I also think most people here are quite aware of the higher powers and the slavery that they are trying to impose on us.

Peace.

[visual co-creator]

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[Jacqui D]

The problem is secrecy! We get all news second hand so to speak, anything printed in papers or said on news reports could be false flags but how do we really know for sure.
The only way of finding out anything for sure is if YOU personally have someone close to you that has any of this information.

So if anyone out there knows something who frequents this site but doesn't post i think it's their duty to do so.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

justr have food for 6 months ready something to cook on, maybe a gas heater, and some other small supplies.. alterantivley if you like me you can go the whole hog and get the full works before our money is irrelevant.. i plan on spending all 3000 of it this week :)

[SpaceMonkey]

might i also add that david icke did a lecture recently and he had a very interesting story to tell which could be linked with this. He said that he knows a traffic warden who had told him that he was once called into the office for a meeting with the head. Whilst at the meeting they gave him 3 cards and told him to put them somewhere safe for the near future. The first card gave him the authority to be a traffic warden, (nothing unusual there), but the second gave him the authority to arrest someone, it's called a "pace card". And the third gave him the authority to enter private property. Now days later this traffic warden met up with a friend who is a police chief of an area and was told something very unusual. He was told that people like traffic warden's and private security firms would have the powers to arrest due to a coming war which would cause civil unrest in the uk so the police would be distracted with that.

[Floyd]

justr have food for 6 months ready something to cook on, maybe a gas heater, and some other small supplies.. alterantivley if you like me you can go the whole hog and get the full works before our money is irrelevant.. i plan on spending all 3000 of it this week :)

Im very happy for you to take me for a few pints if I can help you reduce your currency expenditure.

[SpaceMonkey]

Well, that was a bit sharp SM. If you care somtimes it's hard not to get a littlehot under the collar.

I also think most people here are quite aware of the higher powers and the slavery that they are trying to impose on us.

Peace.

i do apologise if i sounded a bit sharp, i couldn't think of any other way of putting it.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

as far as the economy collapsing its self evident, over mortgaged , av 10 000 credit card debt, when the usa dollar tanks to zero. im assuming the pound falls quite quickly after.. we got till november tops.. the queen is out fo the country ay.. interesting.. underground base in austalia perhaps?? does anyone know where she has gone??

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Im very happy for you to take me for a few pints if I can help you reduce your currency expenditure.
we may be past pints but ill gladly buy you a pint of saomething one day?? once we get through this (if we do) it sounds like we will be able to do much better things than drink beer:thumb_yello: cheers

[Bobcat]

No problems SM :D

[Jacqui D]

yes spacemonkey post that thread a few days ago, regarding giving the traffic wardens clearance to arrest etc;
It's clear that the policing sector in this country will not be around anyway icke says they will become One with the army.
Stands to reason i guess, do we have any police??? certainly not where i live any case.

Well i'm sorry if i get some snotty nosed traffic warden telling me i can't go down a certain street, or worse i'll stick their tickets where the sundon't shine lol:tongue2:

[Mark]

Wasn't it the Rothchilds' - U.K. based - that helped the Rockafellas' take over the USA? And doesn't the Rothchild's and the Queen still hold the purstrings of the world to a great extent? What does this say about what is happening to our world?

[Sunangel]

This is a fascinating discussion and I'm very grateful for all the info provided on projects camelot and avalon, and this forum.
Maybe Bill and Kerry will have pieced more of this mystery together soon. New info seems to be popping up all the time.
Until then, stay positive friends - it's what we're all awake for in this time and place. :thumb_yello:

Peace
Sunangel

[Kate]

Hi everyone!

try keep your chins up for now :thumb_yello: we HAVE TO STAY CALM ...

Information IS power...:lightsabre:

The next couple of weeks will unfold a clearer picture of where we are heading in UK.

Clearly finances are the first to fall...lets get our heads around this properly..

Incase you havent heard it...here is the link for 'full radio broadcast' again that Bill came across ...

http://www.stevequayle.com/qf_september_28_2008.mp3

It covers the likely 'step by step' breakdown of the USA economy...

gives us a good indication of what the UK process might be?

Today, one day at a time ..in the moment....is all we ever have...
so lets make today and the next a GOOD ONE WITH POSITIVE ACTION AND INTENT :) we will find the courage to face whatever is around the corner with the support of others...

Peace n light to all

kate

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

yeah id say have 6 months dried and canned food ready.. some gas and a calor heater for winter..camping stove, cnadles. water filter. who knows whats coming but most people have posessions and their won houses still or rented ones so are not as mobile as they could be.

you just gotta dig in to where you are and sit tight, avoid civil unrest and any chaos.. can go on to various sites for how to build make shift nuke shelters. i hear if it does go wild they will use neutron bombs.

neutron bombs are "fission"bombs 10x less powerful than thermo nukes.. they keep infrastructure generally intact, but emmit serious gamma radiation within the blast radius. majority of lethal fallout can be missed by staying under ground for 3 days to 1 week.these are designed to be lethal to biological life not infrastructure(nice of them)

you need 3feet of compacted earth to sheild you which isnt so much, and water stops loads of the neutrons but the by products is gamma radiation.. so you could say build one with a load of water bottles around the inside walls. or drums of water then have more soil to further protect from the gamma radiation.

it would go soil 3ft,water containers, soil or brick or similar. then have ventilation. remeber air doesnt go radioactive only the dust particles inthe air. so something as simple as damp sheets over your vent shaft ot whole would do.. to protect from fallout.. if you stay out of the first 3 days of fallout your radiation exposure is like 1% from the original blast :)

[Carol]

I remember reading somewhere that a U tube with the opening pointing down toward the ground would work as well but the cloth over it is really an excellent suggestion.

[theochennell]

Food for thought - If we are all part of the same conciousness, then we are all companions on the same journey. Whatever we do or don't do, we are all travelling in the right direction, it's just that some may arrive sooner than others. So, see you all sooner or later. :thumb_yello:

[Artycarl]

After having 24 hours to digest this particular message I am inclined to think there is nothing to worry about this time around. I can understand people feeling on the brink of something big and looking for a trigger but I just don't think this is it.

It does not make sense to me that one man working for the United Nations puts down a non-returnable holding deposit on a property in Montana USA because he has some information that suggests the UK might not be a safe place for the next 30 days.

Is he saying that after 30 days things will be ok or is he saying 30 days of some disaster and he wants to be as far away as possible.

If things will be ok after 30 days why buy somewhere on the other side of the world...what disasters can you think of that can come and go in 30 days.

If its not safe even beyond the 30 days then you would think with nearly fifteen thousand people working for the UN that information this huge would have leaked out somewhere. It is just human nature. Surely he would tell his friends and family and they would tell someone else and someone else and before he knew it he would have thousands and thousands of people desperate to leave the country.

So in my view this is a piece of a completely different jigsaw which looks like it might fit somewhere but probably doesn't, and I suspect we will have many many of these scares over the coming months and years.

Thats my take on it anyway for what its worth.

[Argyll]

Is it just me , or does the media in the UK seen to be playing all this down? , I've watched three main news broadcasts today , as well as reading a couple of the leading newspapers ,and the whole global financial crisis seems to have been pushed way down the running order!

[Argyll]

And as i speak "Question Time" on the BBC starts , and their leading story is on the resignation of Sir Ian Blair as the Commissionaire of the Met Police!

Surely more important subjects to be addressed?

[Bobcat]

yeah im waching it too, the news has covered it all day.....I find it quite rude!! Wehave some massive issues and they want to talk about a bent copper.

I also agree that the UK press is playing it all down and it's such an insult to the thinking parties of our island.

Have you also noticed that uk web searches come up blank ? We arnt allowed any information!
They have us exactley where they want us "distracted".
Did you noticed the other morning that Boy George had a full "skull and bones" outfit on ?
hat, shirt, trousers....!!! This country sucks

we are more in the dark thanany other country !!

Soz for the rant :)

Peace Brothers and Sisters

[Sol Invictus]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA


Aaron Russo - he had it all nailed down.

The financial system is ready to leave cash and gold behind, and in rolls that mother of all slave devices.

The RFID tag.

Question is, will you accept the mark? will you go without the chip that will control all buying and selling? or will you bow to it?

[ifeelthefear]

I hear there is a big military exercise going on with live munitions that has the environmental people very concerned.

mid October I think?

Does anyone know if this is true?

[Bobcat]

Hi Sol,

I have been through that whole interview and it's interesting m8.
I'll never take it. I'll be far away in the hills with my family by then. Its a sick system they are trying to impose and I will not be taking part.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

not sure about the interveiw.. i think it will be that the ulk will reveal to the general populace jsut how deep we are in.. usa will declare bankruptcy perhaps.. terror attack.. got to remember that most sheeple still think bin laden did the 2 towers and 7/7 .. so false flag terror will still work to some degree in the uk.. ill be ready ofr anything byt then ..

[Ross]

I have just received this message from Bill. This possibly has major implications for anyone living in the UK or planning on being in the UK over the next month. The message indicates that something BIG is going down in the next 30 days.... judge for yourself...! :shocked:


QUOTE
IMPORTANT: Listen to this very short (1 min 40 secs) clip from Steve Quayle's 'emergency" radio broadcast on Sunday nght, 36 hours ago: http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle.mp3 . I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, but it jumped right out of the programme at me... please share with all the UK mods and post to the forum for the UK people to figure out what this means.
QUOTE

Ok for my 10 pence worth, I can't say I agree with his assertion that the UK sub prime issue is worse than America's. The US situation was influenced to a large degree by the Fed issuing very low teaser rates to hook people in and then upping the rates. This to my knowledge hasn't happened here to that degree. I don't mean to say things won't get bad economically, but I can't see a full scale collapse. I think if that ever serious looked like happening we'd probably end up in the Euro instead.
As for dirty bombs, nukes and various other unpleasentries...well who knows really. I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.
Everyone chooses how they see things I wish everyone the best of fortune in whatever they choose.

Peace and love

[Bobcat]

I watched Jack Staw the other day giving a speach, the little **** had a dirty smile on his face as he said " we'll do what ever it takes "

And he's our finance minister ? !!!!!

Michael on Question time tonight said to David " theydont know whats going on ".

Watch a reply, he said it in his ear !!!!!!

[Sol Invictus]

Hi Sol,

I have been through that whole interview and it's interesting m8.
I'll never take it. I'll be far away in the hills with my family by then. Its a sick system they are trying to impose and I will not be taking part.


Bobcat, this is how it'll go.

1st it'll be tagging criminals. We all dislkie criminals - sold to us as a way to keep our children safe.
2nd it will be sold as 'keep the vulnerable elderly safe' from muggings whilst picking up their pensions or to keep tags on 'wandering' granny.
3rd, it'll be sold to us to keep our children safe from kidnapping. Track your child, know where they are at all times..

4th. It will be forced upon us all as there will be only a small minority of folks left to chip.

They did the same in the UK with the DNA database.

First the criminals... and so it goes on.

[Bobcat]

Hi Sol,

Yeah that makes plenty of sence pal. I'm not taking the risk, if/when the currency falls, I'll be taking my family and i'll be off the grid.

I'll try my best anyway ;)

[RSF]

Uha.. we might add the BILDERBERG’S AGENDA.
Ouch: http://www.greatdreams.com/nwo.htm
RSF

[izz]

Bobcat, this is how it'll go.

1st it'll be tagging criminals. We all dislkie criminals - sold to us as a way to keep our children safe.
2nd it will be sold as 'keep the vulnerable elderly safe' from muggings whilst picking up their pensions or to keep tags on 'wandering' granny.
3rd, it'll be sold to us to keep our children safe from kidnapping. Track your child, know where they are at all times..

4th. It will be forced upon us all as there will be only a small minority of folks left to chip.

They did the same in the UK with the DNA database.

First the criminals... and so it goes on.

i see a different way - i see that we are all going to find the present way unacceptable and together change it ...

we will take our power back .. there will be no shoot to kill / not microchips that control your emotions .. society will start to take responsibility .. and heal ... however painful .. the wounds are deep ..

dont just blame the leaders .. we put them there ... they just reflect our own disordered and broken connections to who we really are ..

I predict NOTHING major will happen in october ... ill we ll all see in november

[zorgon]

Question for all you money experts out there...

WHY is 700 BILLION such a big deal?

I mean its only money... they can always print more?

Someone posted this in another thread... I strongly suggest you ALL watch this

MONEY AS DEBT (http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/135.html)

Now about those 700 Billion... just a mere drop in the bucket... I mean why all the FUSS?

They LOST 3.5 TRILLION and Rumsfeld reported this on 9-10-2001... promised to look into it... make heads role... and the whopping 25% of Defense Department budget 'unaccounted' for

9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney grills Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on the Pentagon's missing trillions, DynCorp's slave trade, and the 9/11 wargames. House Hearing on FY06 Dept. of Defense Budget, March 11, 2005.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

HOW DO YOU LOSE 3.5 TRILLION DOLLARS?

But no one cares... because we ALL KNOW what happened the day AFTER Rumsfeld speech...

Herr Bush asked for BILLIONS more so we could bomb Iraq back to the stoneage and we all said "Yeah Go Get EM" (okay a slight exaggeration :bleh:)

So what the heck is to worry about a mere 700 billion to bale out their friends?

Wake up and smell the coffee... its Columbian :thumb_yello:

[izz]

yea it is fishy .. they are big fat liars them blooming politicians ... :thumbdown:

[Mark]

700 Billion dollors is such a lot of much cos until it was decided to be used as bailout, it did not exist. Congress have just given the go ahead for the Fed - a privately own company - to print this money out of thin air. O.k. the money did not exist prior to this move be Congress, but now the printing presses are printing it, means that interest alone charged for the privilage sending this money to the places that are going to need it will, and always as been, charge interst to the America peoples.

The poeple are printing this money to bailout Fortune 500 companies and these companies own the Fed Bank also - so you see, they are paying themselves to bailout themselves and the American peoples foot the bill. Nice work if you an get it. It's all a big con that everyone pays for.

Here in the U.K. it is flu jab time - trying to talk my parents out of having it but can't - so that might be an indicator of what is to come to the U.K. over he next month. Or, maybe, this is false flagging - something to scare us or even to cover up something else that is happening - like the 2KY crap, to keep us inside.

Either way, it's the start of October now and I live at the heart of the U.K. I'l let you know when my limbs start falling off throught radiation or I get the flu.

Love, light and laughter...

[Angel of the Mists]

Hello folks....

Just wanted to draw attention again to some of the words Ross posted in the wee small hours of this morning...

'I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.'

I really resonated with these words....and I think these are really powerful thoughts to hold within us....we do have choice regarding how we deal with and respond to any information, and of course we have 'feelngs and emotions' . But we are here for a reason, and with a job to do......that means being open to where we can be most useful, and then doing and being the very best ground crew we can be....don't let's waste any valuable time.

And thank you Ross....

Angel of the Mists

[Seva]

Hello folks....

Just wanted to draw attention again to some of the words Ross posted in the wee small hours of this morning...

'I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.'

I really resonated with these words....and I think these are really powerful thoughts to hold within us....we do have choice regarding how we deal with and respond to any information, and of course we have 'feelngs and emotions' . But we are here for a reason, and with a job to do......that means being open to where we can be most useful, and then doing and being the very best ground crew we can be....don't let's waste any valuable time.

And thank you Ross....

Angel of the Mists

Thats rocks! :thumb_yello: i dont think there are better words to sum up the WHY we are then that. Thank you for sharing this :)

HUGS!

Seva

[Newliving]

Hello folks....

Just wanted to draw attention again to some of the words Ross posted in the wee small hours of this morning...

'I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.'

I really resonated with these words....and I think these are really powerful thoughts to hold within us....we do have choice regarding how we deal with and respond to any information, and of course we have 'feelngs and emotions' . But we are here for a reason, and with a job to do......that means being open to where we can be most useful, and then doing and being the very best ground crew we can be....don't let's waste any valuable time.

And thank you Ross....

Angel of the Mists

I agree, well said Ross. I've had the feeling for a long time that I should stay in the Stoke-on-Trent area to help in the coming times. My conscience wouldn't let me cut and run, and my heart definitely wants me to stay, having been born and grown up in this area and returned after 26 years away. Not that I have survivalist skills, nor a current leadership position (well, actually I do, but not in the council or other authorities - I do however have a respectable public profile) but knowing what I know I could reassure people plus help to give the authorities some guidance about the scale of what to expect over the next few years. I started doing that over two years ago, and laid down some markers then. Knowledge carries its own responsibility, someone once told me, and it sounds right to me.

[Alysse]

In response to Ross' post, I must say that I am exactly in the same place with regards all this, right along with several others who have commented on your post. We've got to "hold that thought" and remain committed to be the part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Well said and thanks.

[Swanny]

Just back from tescos buying supplies, noticed the girl on the checkout had a cold, oh well the flu has contaminated my supplies already, guess I'll be off early then :naughty:
See you all on the other side :blowup:

[nigel2285]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7646398.stm
army are on stand by from oct 1, usa have troops on stand by too.
i deliver to army camps and there is a lot thing going on ? live fire too!
lots of flu about too!
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...14666-21914726
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...intwarrior.htm

[Sol Invictus]

Nigel, where did you find this Army on stand by? Is that a USA thing? because I just got off the phone and can say without a shadow of a doubt that no Uk forces have stepped up their alert.

Also, no AICU units I have contacts with are prepping for any flu breakout.

All is well at the moment in my humble opinion.

[swordsmith]

I just love scanning the front pages of the snoozepapers, its a hollow laugh, but see the front pages telling people to get their FREE flu jabs, gotta love that mercury!
Nobody here would get a flu jab, would they?

[Southsea]

I just love scanning the front pages of the snoozepapers, its a hollow laugh, but see the front pages telling people to get their FREE flu jabs, gotta love that mercury!
Nobody here would get a flu jab, would they?

I won't be accepting their kind offer to poison my already polluted system any further. They won't be giving me a chip neither!:thumbdown:

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

ohh honestly, bring it on. Ive shaved my cat and ate 2 box's of pringles, im ready!!:mfr_omg::mfr_lol:

:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:: yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:

Hey Zinfinity,

That was totally excellent, absolutely cracked me up, thanks for posting such sparkling fizzy humour!

Also great to see good ol Indiana Bill (Our lovely cuddly 'Dude in the Hat') chipping in to qualify this line of enquiry!

It's important to ALL keep unraveling the BIGGER PICTURE TOGETHER..and also VITAL we keep our collective sense of humour about all these dark covert conspairacy shennanigans.

Inspired by the 'brave' actions of Zinfinity...I have just finished the construction of a...
"BOMB and FART PROOF NUCLEAR SHELTER" in my lounge made of CHEESY WOTSITS...

Also have stocked up with a decades supply of OPAL FRUITS and REFRESHERS...
Because theyr'e MADE TO MAKE YOUR MOUTH WATER and
IT'S THE FIZZ THAT GIVES ME WHIZZ...

Plus to stop HEAT DETECTION by the NWO I have had a
BACK, SACK and CRACK WAX and polished my nipples with STICKY TOFEE PUDDING!!

Remember Guys and Gals...They can take our SWEETS but they can NEVER take our FREEDOM!

I say "BRING IT ON"...NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is gonna stop THE LIGHT!:yikes:

Keep LIVING and Keep LOVING...

One WORLD - One LOVE - One PEOPLE

Big scrumbly wumbly wumptious hugz to all in da UK...

Take care out the people!

PEACE OUT x

:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:: yikes::yikes::yikes:

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

Hey Sweedies,
Just another point, notice how they have swamped the news with Ian Blairs resignation and today they are swamping it with OJ Simpsons guilty verdict.

Just as they used the Gary Glitter thing to cover other stuff up like the Georgia conflict etc.

MEANWHILE...Back at the Ranch...

Today (Saturday THE 4th OCT - meaning only 3 days before the 7th EVENT date)...

Gordon Brown and ALL the leaders of the EU are meeting in Paris to 'DISCUSS' the Economic Crisis...

NOW, what would be SO IMPORTANT that they all need to get together to discuss THIS WEEKEND, that they couldn't do over their advanced confrence calling technology??

Ya gotta admit it's a pretty BIG SYNCHRO coming just ahead of the expected 7th EVENT!

Or maybe they aint getting BRIEFED about anything, they just got together for a lovely Autumn Lunch in ol gay Pari eh.

SPANK their NAUGHTY LITTLE NEW WORLD ORDER BOT BOT'S!

Luv to all at Avalon, Big Smiles Gang...

PEACE OUT x

:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:: yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:

[SUNMOON]

AFTER 50 YEARS OF DILIGENTLY WATCHING THE BANKSTERS;
These are my 2 cents:

They took over the USA on Dec 23 1913, http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/taxonomy/term/4531
"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
~ Thomas Jefferson


and with today’s congressional vote all Americans are virtual slaves. With the coming derivatives explosion, every American citizen will ‘awe’ over a million dollars to the Rothschilds and the Rokeffellers families!

The banksters bombed the WTC in 1993 and return to destroy it completely in 2001.

They bombed the London subway in 2005 (the bomb was UNDER the train),
And I am guessing that they will repeat by blowing up the parliament/Big Ben, or something similar. Declare martial law and the un-elected PM will be king forever, just as Bush will be a king forever after he nukes one American city before the elections.

ANOTHER FUTURE ‘PREDICTIONS’:

SPAIN,
Remember the Madrid bombing? And how it was later found out that the ‘terrorists’ got their explosives from the Spanish Intelligence Services?
I do expect another ‘terrorists’ activities in Spain too.

FRANCE; Nicolas Sarkozy replaced Tony Blair as the main Spokesman of the Rothschild family. I will not be surprised if ‘terrorists’ will blow up the Eiffel Tower too! (as many psychics predicted)

Bali- remember how the Australian SBS-TV DATELINE program, interviewed the Indonesian President who admitted that his military (financed by the pentagon) did the Bali bombing and NOT terrorists. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2L3gxzrIoyk

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero

[SUNMOON]

the UK psychic Levi had this to say:

"I am puzzled here. I see Police in black riot gear but also Police dressed like soldiers in combat gear. Maybe National Guard but I'm sure they are more connected to the Police than the Military. Does this make sense to anyone in America?"
http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/martial_law.htmlhttp://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CMAG/956-037~Albert-Einstein-Posters.jpg

[Ross]

Hello folks....

Just wanted to draw attention again to some of the words Ross posted in the wee small hours of this morning...

'I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.'

I really resonated with these words....and I think these are really powerful thoughts to hold within us....we do have choice regarding how we deal with and respond to any information, and of course we have 'feelngs and emotions' . But we are here for a reason, and with a job to do......that means being open to where we can be most useful, and then doing and being the very best ground crew we can be....don't let's waste any valuable time.

And thank you Ross....

Angel of the Mists

Thank you guys for your kind words, I'm trying really hard to not get drawn into this whole 'world financial collapse' thing and you guys have just given me a big shot of positivity which I'm really grateful for. I think it's really important that we all support each other emotionally through all this because most of us arent surrounded by people who are receptive to this kind of information. This is the real blessing of this forum I think.

Two things occur to me at this moment which I'd like to share. First is what David Wilcock and others have referred to as 'complex adaptive systems'. For those who do not know, this is a phenomenon (along the lines of chaos theory, I think) whereby you can predict (via computer modelling) the movement of individual portions of a system very accurately right up until the moment of collapse (visualise sand falling through an egg timer and forming a pile). However, at the moment of collapse it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to predict how the companant parts will restructure. Therefore as the economy (and system in general) reaches the critical point of collapse, new sub-systems will form that at this moment are beyond our prediction. This is why it's really important to flow with the changes I feel.

Secondly, if you believe (as I and many others here do) that we are in a time of great spiritual awakening (namely, understanding that your true identity is infinate multidementional consciousness, and not Ross, John Smith or whoever), and that the powers that be (ie the dark souls al the top on the pyramid) know this and are actively trying to surpress it; then what is the single biggest obstacle to spiritual awakening?.......FEAR! You keep people constantly freaked out through war, threat of food shortange, economic collapse blah blah blah. As the energies increase and more and more of us move back towards our true identities with greater ease than was possible before, the pressure clamp of fear needs to be ratcheted up just to hold us in the same place, therefore you need bigger wars, larger collapses etc. All we need to do is get rid of the fear and, as David Icke puts it beautifully, the ball that had been held down at the bottom of the tank of water will pop back up and float on the surface in its natural state.

Hope this wasn't all too cryptic!

Peace and Love

[Son of Eire]

thank you guys for your kind words, i'm trying really hard to not get drawn into this whole 'world financial collapse' thing and you guys have just given me a big shot of positivity which i'm really grateful for. I think it's really important that we all support each other emotionally through all this because most of us arent surrounded by people who are receptive to this kind of information. This is the real blessing of this forum i think.

Two things occur to me at this moment which i'd like to share. First is what david wilcock and others have referred to as 'complex adaptive systems'. For those who do not know, this is a phenomenon (along the lines of chaos theory, i think) whereby you can predict (via computer modelling) the movement of individual portions of a system very accurately right up until the moment of collapse (visualise sand falling through an egg timer and forming a pile). However, at the moment of collapse it becomes impossible to predict how the companant parts will restructure. Therefore as the economy (and system in general) reaches the critical point of collapse, new sub-systems will form that at this moment are beyond our prediction. This is why it's really important to flow with the changes i feel.

Secondly, if you believe (as i and many others here do) that we are in a time of great spiritual awakening (namely, understanding that your true identity is infinate multidementional consciousness, and not ross, john smith or whoever), and that the powers that be (ie the dark souls al the top on the pyramid) know this and are actively trying to surpress it; then what is the single biggest obstacle to spiritual awakening?.......fear! You keep people constantly freaked out through war, threat of food shortange, economic collapse blah blah blah. As the energies increase and more and more of us move back towards our true identities with greater ease than was possible before, the pressure clamp of fear needs to be ratcheted up just to hold us in the same place, therefore you need bigger wars, larger collapses etc. All we need to do is get rid of the fear and, as david icke puts it beautifully, the ball that had been held down at the bottom of the tank of water will pop back up and float on the surface in its natural state.

Hope this wasn't all too cryptic!

Peace and love

cheers ross,agree with what your saying,we need to up the positve energy on this forum.
The controllers feed on your fear and they are doomed without it.

[orwellsbud]

We will each do what we have to do, whenever, whatever occurs. Just enjoy the ride people, these are exciting and troubling times...stay cool, stay calm and give the bird to fear! :lightsabre::thumb_yello:

The Light Birgade Awaits!

Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

[golden lady]

I hear there is a big military exercise going on with live munitions that has the environmental people very concerned.

mid October I think?

Does anyone know if this is true?

Hi,
Just come across this on another forum.
Military exercise called "Joint Warrior" Oct 6th-16th
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/
Also in Scotland 4thOct -17thoct.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/ScotlandPreparesForJointWarrior.htm
Americans involed too.

I'm sure Iv'e read somewhere of a senario that during "war games", in which the UK was to be part of, it all went horibly wrong. Or am I dreaming, I do hope so. Can anyone shed any more light on this?

Love, Peace and courage to all.

[Operator]

Well you may be right ... Still certain scenario's keep crossing my mind ...
I remembered his name again: Barry King ... about underground bases ...

Yesterday I saw another presentation of dr Ian R. Crane ... and he was at one point drawing attention to the Olympics in London 2012.
It crossed my mind that this would be a very good opportunity for something like project Bluebeam.

So maybe this is about an exercise for Bleubeam and something goes wrong ?

I can't help it ... I don't even WANT to speculate ... but these thoughts keep coming pop up. I hope I am wrong ...

Cheers

[ladyluck]

....As Penfold in "Dangermouse" would say....


Oooooh Crumbs! :original:

Blessing to All!

Maxine

[orwellsbud]

Exercise Joint Warrior 2008

The UK military will be running two publicised multi-force exercises around Scotland under the title of Exercise Joint Warrior 2008.

NW 081 will run from April 19, 2008 to May 2, 2008, and NW 082 will follow later in the year, running between October 4, 2008 and October 17, 2008. These are the latest in the series of major regular multi-force exercises previously known as Neptune Warrior.

Neptune Warrior provided joint collective training in a multi-threat environment for UK, NATO and Allied units and their staffs, enabling them to operate together in tactical formations as preparation for employment in a component of a Joint Combined Task Force

The Neptune Warrior name was a re-branding of the earlier Joint Maritime Courses (JMC) which ran up to the summer of 2005. In 2006, when there were 3 exercises per year, the third (NW 063) took place from October 21, 2006, to November 4, 2006. From 2007, these reduced to 2 per year, with the Neptune Warrior exercises (NW 071 and NW 072) taking place between April 21, 2007, and May 5, 2007, then September 17, 2007, to September 29, 2007.

Current information from:- http://www.rnopsscotland.com/


Defence
News Article
Army and Navy colleagues in Exercise Joint Warrior
A Training and Adventure news article

29 Apr 08

3rd Battalion The Rifles have been helping out Royal Navy colleagues from HMS Bulwark and HMS Portland in an international exercise off the coast of Scotland.
HMS Bulwark

HMS Bulwark sails through a snow shower as she patrols the North West of Norway during Exercise Armatura Borealis/Tundra (March 2008)
[Picture: PO (Phot) Angie Pearce]

Exercise Joint Warrior is a large international NATO marine exercise being carried out over two weeks which is designed to develop the ability of aircraft, warships and submarines to operate as part of a multi-national task group in a complex and demanding operational environment.

Alongside HMS Bulwark and HMS Portland are more than 30 aircraft, warships and submarines from NATO countries, including the UK, Germany, France, Turkey, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Poland and the USA.

There is usually a notional 'Land' scenario as part of the exercise, but this is the first time in years that real soldiers will land and take part ashore.

3 Rifles, recognising the opportunities the exercise offered, volunteered to take part and embarked on HMS Bulwark (a troop carrying ship).

HMS Bulwark is an Albion Class, High Readiness Amphibious Assault Ship, ready for worldwide tasking. She has the capacity for up to six Challenger Tanks and over 400 troops. She also operates a number of smaller landing craft that are being used on the exercise to disembark the 3 Rifles troops.

She is also operating as the command and support ship for a force of smaller mine warfare ships during the exercise.
HMS Portland

HMS Portland returning home after a six month deployment in December 2007
[Picture: LA (Phot) Ray Jones]

HMS Bulwark's Commanding Officer, Captain Jeremy Blunden, said:

"Exercise Joint Warrior will allow my sailors and Royal Marines to test their operational skills against some of the top navies in NATO. We are greatly looking forward to this demanding and rewarding opportunity to further develop the ship's operational capability as the Royal Navy's Amphibious Flagship."

3 Rifles are conducting exercises based around a NEO (Non-Combatant Evacuation Operation) scenario which sees the safe extraction of a vulnerable population from a potentially dangerous environment.

This is an operation that 3 Rifles are all too familiar with, having conducted one for real whilst they were at high readiness as the Army's 'Spearhead' in 2006, when the British Community in Lebanon were safely evacuated by ship to Cyprus and home to the UK. Coincidentally HMS Bulwark also took part in that operation.

The 'landward' training commenced early on Monday 28 April 2008 with a beach landing and 20 km insertion march along the roads and fields (with the local landowners' permission of course), followed by the NEO operation to evacuate a role-playing civilian population from a mock hostile presence.

The Commanding Officer of Royal Navy Frigate HMS Portland, also taking part in Exercise Joint Warrior, Commander Mike Utley, said:

"This exercise will provide a challenging scenario that will allow us to build as a team while consolidating our warfare skills in a variety of disciplines. This type of training is invaluable in enabling us to remain at our peak in terms of operational capability."


I think these are the articles of intrest. NEO is an extremely intresting and very telling scenario to rehearse...Hmmm!


Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

[linkes]

well before I listened to the half past human interview on PC I had a dream.

I dreamt I was in a shopping centre and gas started to fill into the shopping centre to my amazement everybody just kept sitting there and they started to fall over like robots, I grab everyone I knew and told them to run the minute I saw the gas.

We managed to make it outside butthe gas was outside as well however by the time we got outside it started to disperse,we then went on a mission for food and yet there were people still wondering around like nothing had changed.

When I woke up from this dream the emotion and detail was so strong that its still with me now 6 days later.

I have since then read David Wilcocks latest piece and listened to half past human on project camelot and the latest notifications.

I then decided to go inward to see what the actual message of the dream was the information that came through was that it was not about the gas or the how but what is happening and people are choosing to ignore it to there own detriment.

My point is its not going to harm you to get a supply of food and have a plan b just in case. We are not instigating fear or encouraging everyone to run around saying the sky is falling. All we are saying is be aware be ready and pay attention.

The times ahead are going to be rough but not as rough as predicted we will survive however the only way to survive is to be prepared and pay attention.

Peace and Blessing:original:
Linkes

[realist]

Both of the links are already dead!
That speaks volumes to me. :lmao:

Both links work properly. Just try to click on them:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-21914726/ (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/)

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...intwarrior.htm (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/ScotlandPreparesForJointWarrior.htm)

This is not a conspiracy. Somebody has problems using the bbcode properly.
Check here: Linking to another site using bbcode (http://www.phpbb.com/community/faq.php?mode=bbcode#f40)

[ladyluck]

:lmao:

Both links work properly. Just try to click on them:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-21914726/ (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/)

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...intwarrior.htm (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/ScotlandPreparesForJointWarrior.htm)

This is not a conspiracy. Somebody has problems using the bbcode properly.
Check here: Linking to another site using bbcode (http://www.phpbb.com/community/faq.php?mode=bbcode#f40)


Cool! :original: thanks for the updated links.

[Powerinourhandsl]

AFTER 50 YEARS OF DILIGENTLY WATCHING THE BANKSTERS;

ANOTHER FUTURE ‘PREDICTIONS’:

SPAIN,
Remember the Madrid bombing? And how it was later found out that the ‘terrorists’ got their explosives from the Spanish Intelligence Services?
I do expect another ‘terrorists’ activities in Spain too.

FRANCE; Nicolas Sarkozy replaced Tony Blair as the main Spokesman of the Rothschild family. I will not be surprised if ‘terrorists’ will blow up the Eiffel Tower too! (as many psychics predicted)

Bali- remember how the Australian SBS-TV DATELINE program, interviewed the Indonesian President who admitted that his military (financed by the pentagon) did the Bali bombing and NOT terrorists. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2L3gxzrIoyk



I live in Spain and the thing that was strange about the madrid bombing was that it was 2 days before the spanish elections. It seemed to me that the ruling party at the time (Conservative) would get in again without a problem. But the bombs went off in the trains and the opposition got in instead. Due in large part to confused press reports at first saying it was ETA that was responsible, then a day later Al Keda. The pubilc seemed to go mad at this confusion from the ruling party and as a result opposition pledged a removal of forces from Iraq and got in at the last min.

I cannot see the why one party would have been prefered over another as both are pretty incompetent, all very strange...

[Ampgod]

I agree, well said Ross. I've had the feeling for a long time that I should stay in the Stoke-on-Trent area to help in the coming times. My conscience wouldn't let me cut and run, and my heart definitely wants me to stay, having been born and grown up in this area and returned after 26 years away. Not that I have survivalist skills, nor a current leadership position (well, actually I do, but not in the council or other authorities - I do however have a respectable public profile) but knowing what I know I could reassure people plus help to give the authorities some guidance about the scale of what to expect over the next few years. I started doing that over two years ago, and laid down some markers then. Knowledge carries its own responsibility, someone once told me, and it sounds right to me.

Humm,

Ok. So ... have you made your mind up?
Just for kicks let's say you hear on the news that there are missiles ready to strike your town at any moment and war is definitely a reality. Will you move or still feel you have a duty to stay and die?

It is my opinion that deciding to stay where you are now is close minded.
I, personally, will stay open and see where things go.
I will make a decision based on my current reality at that time.
I will also prepare according to what is happening right now and adjust with that as time moves forward.

Just my take on this.

Peace,
Ampgod

[Southsea]

My gut reaction when reading these reports was,
"There it is, in plain sight!"
They were running exercises when 9/11 happened, they were running exercises when the London bombings happened. I feel that something will arise out of this little lot and it REALLY would be a GOOD idea to get some food in. I think we should designate some rallying points across the uk, where folks can head to and set up self help communities.
Not trying to put the wind up anyone, just trying to be practical. People who are not aware, and there are many, will be traumatised and will need guiding lights that can begin to explain the realities. After all, they might, after a good slap, start to pay attention to the world they are actually in at the present moment. Then maybe, just maybe, we will see a torrent of awareness rush forth. The tide IS turning. It's gonna be a rush of a ride!

[Ampgod]

I just love scanning the front pages of the snoozepapers, its a hollow laugh, but see the front pages telling people to get their FREE flu jabs, gotta love that mercury!
Nobody here would get a flu jab, would they?

The people whom get these are asleep and have given there power away to other humans that will rule and enslave them.
They are slaves and will suffer until they awaken. If they awaken!

So, No, I would never have this done to me!
A couple glasses of colloidal Silver over a day will fix you right up with no adverse effects or rejection from the body at all. Flu solved!
Colloidal Silver is the most powerful antibiotic known to mankind!
Safest as well! Its natural and provided to us by the divine creation or God or whatever you may name it.
oh and yes! You would be drinking water with metal in it. ;)

:)

Peace,
Ampgod

[SIR GALAHAD]

your so right southsea yes we all really need to swaping numbers and arranging meet ups time is running out and if nothing happens great if it does were all prepared much better to be in groups for survial i would most welcome some contact with people who have got an action plane or are thinking of some kind of action . i do have contact with certain beings of the light ie ets if thats what you want to call them they have already told me of a safe place and i have some great ideas of some other safe place . 1 thing with safe places are they can change to match the different threats for example nuclear underground is best ie old cole mines . if its earth changes places like neolithic places that have been around for ever mountains places like this but one thing were going into winter now and its not going to be easy so yes more the better

[SUNMOON]

Hi,
Just come across this on another forum.
Military exercise called "Joint Warrior" Oct 6th-16th
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/
Also in Scotland 4thOct -17thoct.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/ScotlandPreparesForJointWarrior.htm
Americans involed too.

I'm sure Iv'e read somewhere of a senario that during "war games", in which the UK was to be part of, it all went horibly wrong. Or am I dreaming, I do hope so. Can anyone shed any more light on this?

Love, Peace and courage to all.

I AGREE 100%
SATANIC ARTICLES
IMAGINARY ENEMY
911 IN OUR FACE AGAIN!
REAL :mad3:WW3 NEXT WEEK?

[utopiated]

I think it is safe to say, that once martial law is in the UK acting normal wont be possible. The streets will be policed, to the point where you will have to ID yourself.


I don't think a very efficient version of martial law will be carried out in the UK - even if they try to enact it. In the USA - maybe. The govt there is somewhat more heavy-handed [tighter links between M.I.C. / top-govt] and I think the US has more "foreign" troops.

Over here I really can't imagine your average Joe soldier and police-person carrying out months of house-to house searches and fascistic detentions. If a false-flag event[s] were big and often enough this may change but without that I don't see it.

I've done my share of demos and activist stuff in the UK and as much as I hate a lot of the system, we're still a comparatively tolerant bunch when people are taken out of the state/institutions context and it's just citizen-to-citizen.
-

[utopiated]

And as i speak "Question Time" on the BBC starts , and their leading story is on the resignation of Sir Ian Blair as the Commissionaire of the Met Police!

Surely more important subjects to be addressed?

-

Welcome to how reality has functioned for the last 61 years!

The revolution never has been and never will be televised...
-

[Newliving]

Humm,

Ok. So ... have you made your mind up?
Just for kicks let's say you hear on the news that there are missiles ready to strike your town at any moment and war is definitely a reality. Will you move or still feel you have a duty to stay and die?

It is my opinion that deciding to stay where you are now is close minded.
I, personally, will stay open and see where things go.
I will make a decision based on my current reality at that time.
I will also prepare according to what is happening right now and adjust with that as time moves forward.

Just my take on this.

Peace,
Ampgod

It's easy for me to say this before things get to the point of crisis, but I feel that I wouldn't act to save myself and leave others to their own fate. I'd want to help everyone else, or at least those within my sphere of potentially effective action. I've lived my life in service to others, not primarily for moral or ethical reasons but because I prefer living that way. I find it more enjoyable and fulfilling.

I feel that Stoke-on-Trent, perhaps including the wider region of North Staffordshire, is the area I should remain in to assist. Stoke-on-Trent could well be a safe place to be, as it's fairly high and has good countryside around for food and water. And many of the people here are multi-generational local people who are totally committed to the area, with a strong sense of community. They deserve good organisers who have their best interests at heart and are prepared to give all. At the present time I'm doing that, but at the same time I'm also working in a wider sphere, even internationally through the internet, contributing what I can to discussion forums, hosting websites and working more directly with others in various initiatives. I would help to organise regional or even national get-togethers of members of this forum, for example.

That much seems realistic for me to do, now and in the foreseeable future depending on the resources that will be available. If I were to move elsewhere, it would be much more difficult to link up with others in an effective way, and I might even end up on my own - no thanks! Here, I know the area and I'm known to others.

Some on this forum talk in terms of banding together and moving somewhere safe. I'd rather feel that we were banding together to help others in unsafe areas, at least through the worst of times that some see ahead. For me, it would be more effective to band together with a few good people in our local known area where we're known.

And regarding dying, I don't think dying is the end of it. I think it's just another death of body along the way, and the next stage of the journey will be enhanced by spending the rest of this life in selfless service to others. Again, it's easy for me to say this sort of thing because I don't have anyone close enough to hold me back, though come the time and I'll discover really how much I'm oriented to selfless service.

Since you ask, I can't say I've made my mind up, but as you say yourself, what I've just said is just my take on this - at least for now.

[tandiwe]

My mums next door neighbour told her that her son on thurs 2nd oct told her to get some cash out of the bank, enough for a week, he is in the british army, intelligence as far as i can gather. They were just chatting over the hedge (haha) and this was revealed. I have been telling my parents to get cash out all week and this was the thing that made them do it. This is all the information that I have.

It may be nothing, it may be something, it may be somewhere in between

[utopiated]

:lmao:

Both links work properly. Just try to click on them:

This is not a conspiracy. Somebody has problems using the bbcode properly.


Good find.

Preparations are being made across Scotland for the biggest military exercise in Europe, Joint Warrior, which will see the UK's armed forces take part in joint collective training alongside military personnel from eight other countries.

This is the sort of useful peripheral data it's worth looking our for. "The biggest exercise in Europe" ?! Hmmmm... from 6th OCtober.

[realist]

Coincidentally there will also be a big Russian combat training October 6-12 2008:


Russia's strategic bombers to drill with full combat payloads

MOSCOW, October 2 (RIA Novosti) - Russian strategic bombers will conduct training flights with full combat payloads and live fire all cruise missiles on board for the first time in over two decades, an Air Force spokesman said.

The live firing exercises in Russia's northern latitudes on October 6-12 are part of the Stability-2008 strategic maneuvers in various regions of Russia and Belarus with the goal of practicing strategic deployment of the Armed Forces, including the nuclear triad, to counter potential threats near the Russian border.

"During these exercises, for the first time in many years, the crews of Tu-160 Blackjack and Tu-95MS Bear-H strategic bombers will fly missions carrying the maximum combat payload and fire all the cruise missiles on board," Lt. Col. Vladimir Drik said.

Tu-95MS and Tu-160 aircraft can carry six and 12 Kh-55 (AS-15 Kent) long-range cruise missiles respectively.

Drik said that the scope of the exercises would be unprecedented and involve, apart from the Tu-160s and Tu-95s, the Tu-22M3 Backfire strategic bombers, air superiority fighters, interceptors and aerial tankers.

"The number and variety of aircraft involved in the drills shows the wide range of tasks that will be accomplished during the week-long exercise," the spokesman said.

Former Air Force commander, General of the Army Pyotr Deynekin, said Russian Tu-95 bombers had conducted live firing of all their cruise missiles only once before, in 1984.

"Tu-160 bombers have never done this because it is very expensive," the general said.

According to various sources, in addition to 16 Tu-160 bombers the Russian Air Force currently has 40 Tu-95MS bombers and 141 Tu-22M3 bombers in service.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081002/117389135.html

***********

And I am pretty sure that the following link is also pure coincidence:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/03_10_08nuclearattack.pdf

Don't panic!

[Connecting with Sauce]

Quite worrying indeed:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3130335/Russia-to-stage-largest-air-force-war-games-since-Soviet-times.html

I plan to go shopping today for quite a few items.

I'm not sure if this is relavent but in the last two-three weeks I have reading buying books on a number of topics which I may shortly need. I honestly do hope I will not need these items but only time will tell and I'd like to be ready for the worst and hope for the best.

Yesterday I resonated with the stay put idea... Leave work, Turn my house into a healing centre etc etc I really would like to help everyone. I have so much knowledge on detoxing, Reiki and health benefits of food etc.

But this morning I read this with UK and Russia having war games on the same dates with live ammunition on both sides! I personally hope it does not get out of hand I really so honestly do. But...

I saw a medium 3 weeks ago and my last 3 weeks so far have been pretty spot on. She also saw me preparing for a huge adventure ourside living in the wild and going rough!

I need to make a list :) what an adventure!

She also said I wouldn't be at work much longer and that things would change dramatically and very quickly!... :) this is not what I hd planned!

[realist]

North Atlantic Council meeting with Political and Security Committee of the European Union

The North Atlantic Council (NAC) and the Political and Security Committee (PSC) of the European Union will meet at 10:30 hours on Monday, 6 October 2008 at the NATO Headquarters.

The meeting will be co-chaired by the Deputy NATO Secretary General, Ambassador Claudio Bisognero and the Representative of the French EU-Presidency, Ambassador Christine Roger, French Permanent Representative to the EU Political and Security Committee.

There will be no press opportunity.

source: NATO Press Release (http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2008/p08-125e.html)

[Southsea]

I don't think a very efficient version of martial law will be carried out in the UK - even if they try to enact it. In the USA - maybe. The govt there is somewhat more heavy-handed [tighter links between M.I.C. / top-govt] and I think the US has more "foreign" troops.

Over here I really can't imagine your average Joe soldier and police-person carrying out months of house-to house searches and fascistic detentions. If a false-flag event[s] were big and often enough this may change but without that I don't see it.

I've done my share of demos and activist stuff in the UK and as much as I hate a lot of the system, we're still a comparatively tolerant bunch when people are taken out of the state/institutions context and it's just citizen-to-citizen.
-

I wouldn't bet on it, have a watch of this. Our society has been infiltrated. When it kicks off (martial law) all sorts off characters will have authority over us. It is a fact that, recently, traffic wardens have been given extra powers during times of crisis. Watch this video from a few months ago.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1405535197028538552&ei=Z-PoSKX_G4_EiAKBnLycBg&q=common+purpose&hl=en

I'm certain that everyone who watches this, and understands what it means, will then realise we need networks and we need 'em rapidly, both local, regional and national. I suggest the best method of operation is the same way they run Alcoholics Anonymous. Autonomous self supporting meetings, like cells, even if one folds it does not have an effect on the the whole, it can't be divided, it is the reason it endures worldwide. Come on, we must have some twelve steppers hanging out here. Maybe you could form local offshoots under survivors anonymous. ???? well, it sounds good to me.

[Southsea]

Heyyyy, maybe we ought to link up with him?? He has a plan, he has military training, if we, us lot, connected with his lot, why we could... hmmm, let's have some feedback here please. Of course you will need to watch the video first.

Robin

[kopenhagen]

It may be nothing, it may be something, it may be somewhere in between

it's better to be safe, be prepared than to be surprised :mfr_lol:

[Betty]

Did anyone see the episode recently on the TV show, "The Fringe"? The plot was a psychic recieving horrible visions. He was intercepting the bad guys psychic communication. The good guys used his visions to catch the bad guys.
Please do not use these visions of Dr. Deagle's as an excuse for fear and anger. Evil feeds on fear and anger. MEDITATE for peace!
Good guys are fighting for us behind the scenes. Why do you think the latest hurricane went up the east coast hitting Maine with only a strong storm instead of devastating the east coast?
Don't be a victim. Sincerely, Betty

[seekntruth]

Does anyone know if more information from the Whistleblower is coming ?

They are turning our street lights off in Wales, they started a few weeks ago.

Everything just stinks tbh and my gut is rolling.


That's interesting! Does anyone in the local political arena have an explanation for the street lights being turned off? Does this happen every night now? Is this across a wide area? What areas are being affected by these kind of blackouts?

Be safe!

Vance

[seekntruth]

Did anyone see the episode recently on the TV show, "The Fringe"? The plot was a psychic recieving horrible visions. He was intercepting the bad guys psychic communication. The good guys used his visions to catch the bad guys.
Please do not use these visions of Dr. Deagle's as an excuse for fear and anger. Evil feeds on fear and anger. MEDITATE for peace!
Good guys are fighting for us behind the scenes. Why do you think the latest hurricane went up the east coast hitting Maine with only a strong storm instead of devastating the east coast?
Don't be a victim. Sincerely, Betty

Very good point, Betty! Victim mentality is probably the greatest suppressor, and that very thing has kept humanity under the control of those evil ones who know we are very powerful beings. They prey upon the "victim" to give up personal power willingly and we in response believe that we have no power. That is completely untrue! We all have amazing personal power, and together we have immense collective power. That's why the powers that be as SO afraid of us awakening to that fact!

Vance

[freespirit]

hi folks

winter blackouts would send me to montana.
:eek:

[jay303]

It's easy for me to say this before things get to the point of crisis, but I feel that I wouldn't act to save myself and leave others to their own fate. I'd want to help everyone else, or at least those within my sphere of potentially effective action. I've lived my life in service to others, not primarily for moral or ethical reasons but because I prefer living that way. I find it more enjoyable and fulfilling.

I feel that Stoke-on-Trent, perhaps including the wider region of North Staffordshire, is the area I should remain in to assist. Stoke-on-Trent could well be a safe place to be, as it's fairly high and has good countryside around for food and water. And many of the people here are multi-generational local people who are totally committed to the area, with a strong sense of community. They deserve good organisers who have their best interests at heart and are prepared to give all. At the present time I'm doing that, but at the same time I'm also working in a wider sphere, even internationally through the internet, contributing what I can to discussion forums, hosting websites and working more directly with others in various initiatives. I would help to organise regional or even national get-togethers of members of this forum, for example.

That much seems realistic for me to do, now and in the foreseeable future depending on the resources that will be available. If I were to move elsewhere, it would be much more difficult to link up with others in an effective way, and I might even end up on my own - no thanks! Here, I know the area and I'm known to others.

Some on this forum talk in terms of banding together and moving somewhere safe. I'd rather feel that we were banding together to help others in unsafe areas, at least through the worst of times that some see ahead. For me, it would be more effective to band together with a few good people in our local known area where we're known.

And regarding dying, I don't think dying is the end of it. I think it's just another death of body along the way, and the next stage of the journey will be enhanced by spending the rest of this life in selfless service to others. Again, it's easy for me to say this sort of thing because I don't have anyone close enough to hold me back, though come the time and I'll discover really how much I'm oriented to selfless service.

Since you ask, I can't say I've made my mind up, but as you say yourself, what I've just said is just my take on this - at least for now.






hi im new to the forums and im glad to be here
i just hope we have lots of people like you around when the SHTF
best regards
jay

[orwellsbud]

More information regards Operation Joint Warrior which begins Today! 6th October

http://www.raf.mod.uk/crowales/exerciseops/exjointwarrior2008.cfm

http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/10/joint-warrior-order-of-battle.html

I think we have another piece of the jigsaw concerning upcoming events here, in that, this exercise has a NEO (Non-combatant evacuation operation) element to it. As an ex military man, I know this element of military training is not often practiced unless it's for a specific purpose. The last time I personally took part in an exercise such as this, was in the early eighties (now I feel old:mfr_lol:) serving as part of the British contingent of the UN based in Cyprus. Two weeks later we were evacuating the Palestinians from the Lebonon.


We shall wait and see what occurs in the next few weeks...it should be very interesting.

Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

[tommy38]

From todays (Oct 6, 2008) London Telegraph
Quote – We face extreme danger…we risk a disintegration of global finance within days.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3141428/Germany-takes-hot-seat-as-Europe-falls-into-the-abyss.html

Well, well…….

[Steve_G]

It's worth remembering that on 9/11 and 7/7 there were various military / intelligence / law enforcement exercises going on. What's going on now has been described as a financial 9/11, and it's just possible that these troops are here for that reason.

8 other nations are involved in these exercises though I haven't seen which mentioned anywhere. I'm assuming they're NATO allies. While our own forces may be reluctant to wade in against their own people, foreign troops may not be too worried about it.

I don't believe in coincidences, so I don't think it's accidental that the Russians are conducting exercises at the same time. But it may not be a war issue, it may simply be having troops on high alert and mobile to quell unrest in the civilian population should the financial system grind to a complete halt.

Once they've done that, THEN they can get on with the war they all seem so keen on having.

Good job we can't really die init? :thumb_yello:

[ChristinCP]

Good job we can't really die init? :thumb_yello:

Umm, we actually can die in it, which I don't want at all. The truth being, if I were to die in some apocalyptic self-induced blaze or catastrophe, I wouldn't hang around this popsickle stand to see what happens afterward, I'd be off to the rings of Saturn or something to evolve myself more and only check in w/ the earth occassionally. The important thing is to live through it, come out better, and help some people along the way.

[Patrick]

haven't had time to read whole thread, but this is what I posted couple days ago in different forum.

Quote:
FIGHTER jets, infantry troops, destroyers and submarines will converge on Wales next month for one of the largest military exercises of all time.

The two-week exercise – codenamed Joint Warrior – is designed to recreate a scenario in which Britain and other sovereign nations go to war against a “state-sponsored terrorist movement” – using a vast array of lethal modern weapons.

Taking place between October 6 and October 16, it will provide coordinated training for all three UK Armed Services, plus forces from EIGHT allied nations. [...]


source: WalesOnline (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/)

Preparations are being made across Scotland for the biggest military exercise in Europe, Joint Warrior, which will see the UK's armed forces take part in joint collective training alongside military personnel from eight other countries.

The exercise, which will take place from 6 October 2008, is designed to sharpen the response levels of the thousands of soldiers, sailors and airmen involved.

Conscious of the fact that the exercise will take place in environmentally sensitive conservation zones, planners have spent months in direct discussions with the people most closely involved as exercise director, Royal Navy Captain Paddy McAlpine, explained:

"We are aware that we will be training in areas which contain a wide variety of marine wildlife, sea bird breeding grounds and protected fauna and flora.

"Therefore, we have spoken to landowners, farmers, fishermen, tourist agencies and environmentalists and we have built into our plans details which will limit our impact on our natural surroundings.

"However, I must stress that our armed forces are operating in a busy and dangerous world and it is our fundamental responsibility to ensure that they are trained to the highest possible standard."

In all, 29 ships and four submarines will take part, with the majority of the assets from the UK, NATO and Allied Nations operating off the north and west coasts of Scotland. Submarines will patrol the Sea of Hebrides and the Minch throughout the exercise.

Sixty aircraft will fly 100 missions a day over Scotland, England and Wales and will conform to normal UK low flying regulations between 0800 hrs and 2300 hrs, Monday to Friday.

Essential Joint Firing Exercises will take place at Cape Wrath in Scotland and Castle Martin and Sennybridge in Wales. The Welsh exercises will involve troops and fast jets using a variety of live ammunition. The ships will fire only in Scotland; Cape Wrath is the only regulatory firing range in Northern Europe. Environmental Impact Assessments are conducted for all potentially damaging activities.

source: UKDefenceNews (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/TrainingAndAdventure/ScotlandPreparesForJointWarrior.htm)


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Think how these military exercises just happen to occur at a time when something else just happens to happen unexpected.

Best of luck UK dwellers.
We all will have a challenge in front.

Stop Brown and the gang asap.
We did nothing with Bush, and now he has his own Army, basically we had a coup and now we face some real serious times ahead.
Martial law is a reality now, not something to think might happen. It will happen, unless we come up with a better dream.
That means we need to oust these criminals and hold them accountable!
**********
Interview - Naomi Wolf - Give Me Liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI


***********
Howdy from Western Kentucky, USA. :original:

This is a personal revelation process. ALL will come to understand what has been happening for so long.
The enemy will NOT be able to hide anymore. [but they will seek death as an end and it will not come because as we already know here -death is an illusion].

Their time is short.
But, then again, what is time anyways, lol

[Patrick]

Ah, ok, I read up with some time, and noticed orwellsbud has got it here first. :original:

[Anchor]

Environmental Impact Assessments are conducted for all potentially damaging activities

Yes, I can see that assessment now - Conclusion: It will f*ck up the environment.

Private: Sir, Did you see the conclusion of the enviromental impact assessment?

Major: Yes Private. We promised to do an assessment, and we did it. Whats the problem? We need to train our troops. Run along and get me a nice cup of tea, theres a good chap.

A..

[AMA-GI]

While we are looking at what is right in front of our eyes, maybe it would be better to look from the outside in.

This is a diversion!

[jopublic]

Any ideas on what to do when the electricity grid goes down along with all communications systems?

Any HAM radio operators on these forums?

Surely they will be better suited to relay information amongst 'survival groups'.

Has anyone else noticed the many towers along UK highways, they look like mobile phone relay transmitters but with increasingly more transmitters than they had previously.
Mind control E.L.F. transmitters perhaps, in which case how can you protect yourself from them?

[N.A.S.A LIES]

Bill deagle is a prat, and so are you if you believe anything that has no proof attached. This speculation is disinfomation. Always check your sources. Nothing is gonna happen in the entire month of october or anytime soon. The banking system is the largest story out there at the moment. So discussing that is a little less dramatic than " global war, millions dying, starvation, viruses etc " if you want a real story to get your teeth into, check out " cykonot channel on youtube " state of the art deception, with examples \ evidence, and wait for it !!!! Sources !!!
N.a.s.a. And jpl imagery faked since 1950's. Subliminal encoding. Very important for all to see. Watch the series in order to understand how they do it !!! Ufo space lies 01. Learn how to see. Part a " oh ! By the way, bill deagle was on the phone " close to tears " im not surprised really. I think dr bill is taking the product man !!! He's just realised that his intuition didn't forwarn him that he's a idiot.

Cykonot !!!

[nigel2285]

no soilders no ship no sub not that i can see under water no planes no tank no army or navy ????????????? for one of the biggest nato trainning excesices where are they?????? off too iran maybe???

[Operator]

no soilders no ship no sub not that i can see under water no planes no tank no army or navy ????????????? for one of the biggest nato trainning excesices where are they?????? off too iran maybe???

Hi,

Thanks, for your "observation".
It was not clear to me at all because I think I've read/heard that it was taking place in Scotland and then later Wales.
Maybe someone from Scotland can post his/her observations ?

Cheers

[nigel2285]

Hi,

Thanks, for your "observation".
It was not clear to me at all because I think I've read/heard that it was taking place in Scotland and then later Wales.
Maybe someone from Scotland can post his/her observations ?

Cheers

thanks
off to look for someone from scotland

[Adamu]

So... still no major catastrophe... surprised nobody has mentioned October 14th yet, haha... get your tinfoil hats on for that one! ;)

x

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Any ideas on what to do when the electricity grid goes down along with all communications systems?

Any HAM radio operators on these forums?

Surely they will be better suited to relay information amongst 'survival groups'.

Has anyone else noticed the many towers along UK highways, they look like mobile phone relay transmitters but with increasingly more transmitters than they had previously.
Mind control E.L.F. transmitters perhaps, in which case how can you protect yourself from them?
tetra masts yes. my mates cousin just got a job for over £1000 a week erecting these things. rather odd dont you think in such dire economic circumstances. remember love is a higher vibration so these masts wont affect most of us on here. :):tongue2:

[Bill Ryan]

Bill deagle is a prat, and so are you if you believe anything that has no proof attached. This speculation is disinfomation. Always check your sources. Nothing is gonna happen in the entire month of october or anytime soon. The banking system is the largest story out there at the moment. So discussing that is a little less dramatic than " global war, millions dying, starvation, viruses etc " if you want a real story to get your teeth into, check out " cykonot channel on youtube " state of the art deception, with examples \ evidence, and wait for it !!!! Sources !!!
N.a.s.a. And jpl imagery faked since 1950's. Subliminal encoding. Very important for all to see. Watch the series in order to understand how they do it !!! Ufo space lies 01. Learn how to see. Part a " oh ! By the way, bill deagle was on the phone " close to tears " im not surprised really. I think dr bill is taking the product man !!! He's just realised that his intuition didn't forwarn him that he's a idiot.
Cykonot !!!

N.A.S.A LIES:

It may be helpful to all here if you were not so openly unpleasant. Your own negative energy is not helpful. If you don't want to be part of this discussion, then you are welcome to go elsewhere... there are many other forums to post on.

It’d be very nice to think that Bill Deagle was either incorrect or seeing a real event on a different timeline (which is entirely possible).

But for clarification, Bill Deagle never said that there would be a major incident on 7 October. He said [my paraphrase] that the events which would lead up to the major incident would begin on 7 October. There are many pointers to the possibility that there may be a major incident in the next few weeks, and Bill Deagle’s vision is just one of them.

Very best wishes, Bill

[333mark333]

N.A.S.A LIES:

It may be helpful to all here if you were not so openly unpleasant. Your own negative energy is not helpful. If you don't want to be part of this discussion, then you are welcome to go elsewhere... there are many other forums to post on.

It’d be very nice to think that Bill Deagle was either incorrect or seeing a real event on a different timeline (which is entirely possible).

But for clarification, Bill Deagle never said that there would be a major incident on 7 October. He said [my paraphrase] that the events which would lead up to the major incident would begin on 7 October. There are many pointers to the possibility that there may be a major incident in the next few weeks, and Bill Deagle’s vision is just one of them.

Very best wishes, Bill

Thank you Bill :)

[Kerry Cassidy]

I have just received this message from Bill. This possibly has major implications for anyone living in the UK or planning on being in the UK over the next month. The message indicates that something BIG is going down in the next 30 days.... judge for yourself...! :shocked:


QUOTE
IMPORTANT: Listen to this very short (1 min 40 secs) clip from Steve Quayle's 'emergency" radio broadcast on Sunday nght, 36 hours ago: http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle.mp3 . I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, but it jumped right out of the programme at me... please share with all the UK mods and post to the forum for the UK people to figure out what this means.
QUOTE

THIS IS OLD NEWS...

Kerry

[Anchor]

THIS IS OLD NEWS...

Kerry

Yes - there are far to many dead threads still stickied - tidy up is needed. (There are 13 in this forum)

A..

[ladyluck]

.... :sad: :sad: :sad:

..... Something is GRAVELY wrong! ...Very, very wrong...

Has anyone had any dreams lately of some sort of nuclear attack?

this sounds crazy, I know. I actually don't really believe in dreams, but I just woke up at 2:45 am london time today (13th oct 2008) from a dream that I have never felt so real or vivid in all my freaking life!
I was actually dreaming something else entirely and my mind understood that I was actually in a dream.... until a man suddenly stood up and said urgently that the ground is shaking. We all very quickly assumed that an earthquake had started. It was only when we calmly evacuated the building we saw a very large plume of smoke in the shape of a mushroom rising not to far from us (about 20 miles, maybe 15 miles away) No flash of light, no blast of heat or wind. It looked like it just detonated.
All I said was ..."Oh my god! They did it!" and I forced myself awake.

Now, everyone is more than welcome to dismiss this. I am willing to myself. I DO NOT believe in visions per se, but I do understand that dreams is somehow your subconscious talking to you or revealing some sort of meaning.

Could someone please interpret! Has anyone studied dreams? Has anyone else experienced this before? This has only happened once for me and is unlikely to happen again.

I am a positive, happy-go-lucky kinda gal and I regularly mediate and do the release technique (created by Larry Crane and is similar to the sedona method) on a daily basis.

Can someone tell me this.... What on earth is a positive person doing with a dream like this?!?

I live just 5 miles away from heathrow airport, so naturally, I'm concerned.

I have been applying the release technique furiously for the last 30 minutes and will continue aplying the release technique method throughout the day.
I'll be applying the method on my fear of dying, my wanting of approval, safety and control.

I don't wish to be alarmist. far from it. I wish to strongly encourage everyone to balance and ground themselves spiritually, emotionally, mentally and physically in that order. I guess this is important now more than ever.

I'm gonna try to apply the LOA throughout the day, every day!

Peace & Blessings to all

[ladyluck]

....oh yeah. another thing...

I actually don't believe in Dr Deagle. I don't believe a word of what he says. Same goes for wilcox.

but now, since this dream, I'm not so sure.... but I'm still stronly leaning towards Dr Deagle being a liar. That's my opinion.

At least I'm not profiteering by selling any books or products promoting "how to survive a nuclear attack".

[Swanny]

Ladyluck I'm guessing you have been reading alot of this forum and all the fear/info has building up in your mind, your dream was maybe just you trying to make sense of it all.
I was scaring myself reading stuff here but have now taken a step back and am not worried about it :)

[Anchor]

All I said was ..."Oh my god! They did it!".

Was there a beach nearby with the head from the statue of liberty poking up ?

(That was me trying to be funny, I dont intend any pointed criticism.)

When you are asleep you are in a realm realm so alien to the waking 3D world that your sub-concious has a hard time delivering meaningful messages, but it is possible. However, since you are into meditating, why dont you simply try to open a concious (waking state) dialogue with your inner self and ask for an interpretation?

I don't wish to be alarmist. far from it.

Well if you didn't want to be alarmist - you could try editing your message and remove the alarmist words from the pre-amble. Specifically, this bit:

....

..... Something is GRAVELY wrong! ...Very, very wrong...

Still, I love these words...

I wish to strongly encourage everyone to balance and ground themselves spiritually, emotionally, mentally and physically in that order. I guess this is important now more than ever.

+1 & so do I. That is exactly the correct remedy for many of the issues.

I think if you cant interpret the dream yourself, then perhaps the efforts of an intuitive would help you.

A..

[ladyluck]

Ladyluck I'm guessing you have been reading alot of this forum and all the fear/info has building up in your mind, your dream was maybe just you trying to make sense of it all.
I was scaring myself reading stuff here but have now taken a step back and am not worried about it :)


You know what Swanny, I think you're absolutely right! :original:

I'm gonna step away from this forum for maybe 7 days and just meditate on positive issues and see how I feel then.

To Anchor:

It was never my intention to alarm anyone and I appreciate your comments.

I'll make sure to pause and think before I post on the forum as I tend to think (and type) aloud! :lol3:

Peace, Joy & Blessings (and ONLY peace, Joy & Blessings!) to all!! :biggrin2:

[malcolmpearson]

Please remember that whatever happens we must NOT be afraid. If we face a new and difficult situation with fear then we only serve those who will feed on our fear i.e. those beings who want control and power. Those who care nothing about us as individual humans. As already stated, we were brought here for this time. This is true. Many of us are still not aware of this fact. Please understand that as individuals we have immense power. We are not sheep even if sometimes we act like sheep.

Money doesn't matter. I know that sounds weird but we've been indoctrinated into thinking that it does, indoctrinated into believing it means everything when it means nothing. Money is a false indication of true wealth. It is a carrot on a stick put in front of us to make us go forwards in the direction 'they' want.

True wealth is within yourself. Be not afraid. All will be well.

[theochennell]

ladyluck.

I think the most important thing is to try to keep a level head and stay as balanced as you can. Listen to what others have to say and don't dismiss anything out of hand.

What Bill Deagle picked up was obviously important to him, as important as your dream was to you and he was concerned enough to share it just as you have. But it was just a dream - albeit an important one.

For me this site is about collecting information and sharing love and strength. My advice is listen to others, listen your heart but don't ignore your head - reality is probably somewhere in-between! :original:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

this site is about preparedness and helping each other. let me again say that most of us know what the plans are. let us then prpeapre as best we can for any eventuality. like minded people will get together and help each other though it. i quite like the idea of real news reported events being posted on forums conatantly from all ove the world. knowledge is power. by wednesday ill be prepared for almost anything they can throw at us.. ive bought a very extensive range of equipement, some of it i will not need for a while. the plan is to liquidate private industry as i see it. im getting these supplies now because the businesses selling these items are likely to fail at somepoint.

[lovepromoter]

some of the seth material has some very interesting info on dreams as does 'seth speaks', written by jane roberts and robert butts. hope this will help, as i do not feel qualified to decipher.
peace and love

[TAXMASTER]

"Lie" is a strong word.

Namaste'

[SplatPantZ]

thanks
off to look for someone from scotland

Nigel they are active over barmouth today!

[nigel2285]

i had a dream this afternoon very powerful too. it was of low flying jets about six i think escorting a big plane i beleave it was a bomber of some sort very usual plane white twin fuselage big i was very sacerd in the dream i was waiting for the bomb to go off waiting for the flash i new it was a nuclear attack then i woke up. this dream may mean nothing but i had it and am putting it and this page.

hope it never happens because i sh!!t myself nightmare i do not want agian!

[nigel2285]

Nigel they are active over barmouth today!

barmouth ? ok thanks

[SplatPantZ]

barmouth ? ok thank

yup, inlaws took a trip on the west coast, they saw alot of aircraft activity and thought they were headed for iran until i informed them of the training.

[astropsyche]

There is one major difference living on this rather small island [or any other small island] as compared to a vast space like USA - when civil unrest raises its head there is little or no place to run to. Islanders like us have to negotiate with each other and share whatever resources there are for any of us to survive awful phases in UK history! I can see civil unrest as a distinct possibility - which I feel can be viewed as a positive response to dangers, seen and unseen. Certainly I view civil strife as an indication of resistance - which could tell us the so-called sheeple are very much alive and kicking. However spreading fear and loathing via unsubstantiated projections and reports of what may or may not happen serves nobody. Whilst informed warnings are of course helpful in terms of making practical plans - paranoid outpourings do nothing except add to the negative energies generated by these dark wo/men seeking nihilistic dominance over us all. Please! Be calm and watchful.

[Dusty Nothing]

Earlier today me, and two others whom I was communicating with online all heard a huge sound outside, almost like a giant door slamming, all of us live around the midland area of the u.k, though this could be nothing, I do not dismiss it.

Anyone else in england noticed the vast amounts of chemtrails? I sure have

[nigel2285]

chem trails i see a lot in wales but alantic flight path is over wales. i am not shore about chem trails ? there is a lot of water vapor up there maybe the earth is warming up a lot faster than we think, mean there is a lot more water vapor than there ever has been. one think we do know,we have never see so much rain in the uk this weather is really nuts!!!!!!

[astropsyche]

chem trails i see a lot in wales but alantic flight path is over wales. i am not shore about chem trails ? there is a lot of water vapor up there maybe the earth is warming up a lot faster than we think, mean there is a lot more water vapor than there ever has been. one think we do know,we have never see so much rain in the uk this weather is really nuts!!!!!!

[quote] The chem trails over England have been intense for well over three years. In my neck of the woods the morning sky all too often looks like graph paper with these carefully laid poisons. What I cannot work out is why people don't seem to look up and spot these planes - and ask themselves what is going on! It seems more exposure of these things floating above us in the media is sorely needed. As the media is under military'corporation control I can't see papers, TV or radio making a feature of these trails any time soon.

[nigel2285]

[quote] The chem trails over England have been intense for well over three years. In my neck of the woods the morning sky all too often looks like graph paper with these carefully laid poisons. What I cannot work out is why people don't seem to look up and spot these planes - and ask themselves what is going on! It seems more exposure of these things floating above us in the media is sorely needed. As the media is under military'corporation control I can't see papers, TV or radio making a feature of these trails any time soon.

so what do you think is in these chem trails heavy metals ? viruses ?

[tigger]

Hi there, Can someone please give a quick rendition of what the guy said, -my sound is out on my comp-thanx
Just read this morning that the army (who are inder manned by 3,000 soldiers)are running recrutment drives in areas of high unemployment-small scale right now but we will see this build up and then drafting will come (imo)
tigger

[granny]

Earlier today me, and two others whom I was communicating with online all heard a huge sound outside, almost like a giant door slamming, all of us live around the midland area of the u.k, though this could be nothing, I do not dismiss it.

Anyone else in england noticed the vast amounts of chemtrails? I sure have

Not in England, but here in Tenn the past few days ... they're back!

Early morning and after dark ... who knows what they are doing.

Gran :winksmiley02:

[Donny]

Sorry Gracan you explain to me what you mean " there back!"

[granny]

Sorry Gracan you explain to me what you mean " there back!"


Oh .. sorry ... sure. The chemtrail planes have not been as active as usual ... but now they are back.

For years I have been watching the chem planes stripe the sky while pointing up ... and others who bother to look ... say, "Yeah, its planes. so what?"

Soooo ... I am older and remember what the sky is supposed to look like and this is not it. Tired of the milky white/ light blue instead of the blue we knew as kids.

I have hundreds of photos ... same as you can find all over the net. Many theories out there ... Teller's plans to block the sun, weakening our immune systems ... as well as a zillion other explanations.

I finally gave up trying to point out the trails ... now I just keep an eye on them.

You might try googling "geoengineering" ... interesting ideas that do no make me smile.

Gran :)

[Donny]

Many thanks for that Granny, we have too much cloud here today to check for them.

[utopiated]

chem trails i see a lot in wales but alantic flight path is over wales. i am not shore about chem trails ? there is a lot of water vapor up there maybe the earth is warming up a lot faster than we think, mean there is a lot more water vapor than there ever has been. one think we do know,we have never see so much rain in the uk this weather is really nuts!!!!!!


For anyone in the UK who's interested - we've been running a closed forum on the chemtrails issue at: http://chemtrailsuk.net

In my 6 years of looking into this I think I can safely remove the idea that it is primarily to do with weather modification -[ or at least certainly the global sunscreen thing is a diversion].

I'm headed more towards the idea it's an errmmm... "anomalous object" detection system :winksmiley02:

...although creating a plasma-like nano screen could have NUMEROUS uses of course.

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[Powerinourhandsl]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081014/tuk-new-terror-plot-investigated-dba1618.html

A terrorist threat?

[Swanny]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081014/tuk-new-terror-plot-investigated-dba1618.html

A terrorist threat?

They want us to think so :sneaky2:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Many thanks for that Granny, we have too much cloud here today to check for them.
thats why we cant see them. because the last few days they have been spraying heavy.. the weather is the result of the spraying.. ive been following the patterns post spraying since it started in may:smoke:

[granny]

Many thanks for that Granny, we have too much cloud here today to check for them.

Welcome ...

I watched all afternoon ... appx 6:30pm here now. Continued spraying until about 5pm ... now there a just a few stripes here and there, but the entire sky is milky white ... yuck.

I used to keep a chemtrail calendar and make note of the fact that it would usually be one to two days before I had terrible sinus problems ... 'course I am in NE Tenn ... and sinus problems are notorious for this area. Still ... I did keep track for a while and it did seem worse after spraying.

I investigated the subject for a long time and know most all the theories.

Sunblock = less global warming, plasma sky = potential sky pics, weaken the immune system, weather mod, and one kind of interesting theory concerning scalar weapons and our defense of attacks for other countries ... I have seen the rippling and and waving clouds that represent the electromag energy being injected ... supposedly planes are sent up to mark those locations with X marks ... and many other theories ... but in reality ... who knows?

Listen guys ...

I am sure we will learn soon enough ... after all, this is the age of revealing. I used to look so forward to that, but now I feel sadness. Sooooo many people will simply not be able to handle the fact that the world is nothing like they thought ... nothing like they were told ... nothing like they were taught. Some will not handle it very well.

Remember the anger when you first really discovered the lies our world is built upon. That is a natural reaction, but most of us (I hope) got past that and into a new area of self discovery and power. One simply cannot dwell in that world of tense agitation and anger ... and I have come to believe TPTB are doing us a huge favor in making sure we are awake and aware.

As disgusting ad TPTB are at times ... they are the truly trapped ... many would disengage if possible, but would likely be killed.

Our only path is to prepare for whatever comes and live in gratitude and joy.

Gran

P.S.This Earth School sure is something, huh

[tandiwe]

They want us to think so :sneaky2:

EXACTLY

I thought that too!

We have relaxed about the credit FREEZE so they have to get us SCARED again.

Its a ramping up of the FEAR.

No doubt a false flag will follow.

Even the BBC were saying well where is the EVIDENCE.

xt

[Pure_energy]

And Thats is how freedom ends

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm

Love always

[Steve_A]

Hi Pure_energy,

The US government have been doing this for some time now.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9859242-16.html

Best regards,

Steve



And Thats is how freedom ends

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm

Love always

[Avid]

Has anyone ever thought that the chemtrail 'phenomena' may be to PROTECT the magnetosphere from solar flares/electromagnetic disruption? We do need to maintain communications worldwide.
Notwithstanding, I agree that there may be some opportunities in this spraying to be subversive, and spray a few 'extra' cocktail ingredients in amongst the 'protective' ones. Protect the earth for the PTB/get rid of a few of the populace at the same time kind of thing.:lightsabre:

[Average Joe]

chem trails i see a lot in wales but alantic flight path is over wales. i am not shore about chem trails ? there is a lot of water vapor up there maybe the earth is warming up a lot faster than we think, mean there is a lot more water vapor than there ever has been. one think we do know,we have never see so much rain in the uk this weather is really nuts!!!!!!

As it happens, we have seen as much rain as this in the UK before. This year has been wetter than average but there have been wetter years, we just don't remember them well after being spoiled with drier sunnier weather in the last few years.

Chemtrails is there something to them? Maybe. What is their purpose? We can only speculate.

But really, linking chemtrails and a wetter than average year together seems a waste of time to me because the weather hasn't really been that much out of the ordinary in historical terms.

[Pure_energy]

Steve A

For all I know they have been doing this for years ( or anyone here think that everytime you say nwo, Gordon Brown, Bush or anything like that your phone does not go straigh on rec mode)... the only difference now is that is out in the open. What makes me sad is that is in the open due to " popular demand " so to speak as people are affraid and smile when this things happens. Like the guy on tv ( Mccain supporter on a parade if makes any diference ) saying " we need to put more restricitons and IDs and chip cause my family will be saver and I have nothing to hide". Poor man and poor us that need to fight to not let it happen.

[ChickenLittle]

I have channeled information to address the urgency of impending doom in the next thirty days involving the UK….

It is confirmed that Michael Palin will indeed be the next President of the United States of America.

http://www.michaelpalinforpresident.com/

God Help Us All.

III

[Pomguymguy]

Has anyone ever thought that the chemtrail 'phenomena' may be to PROTECT the magnetosphere from solar flares/electromagnetic disruption? We do need to maintain communications worldwide.
Notwithstanding, I agree that there may be some opportunities in this spraying to be subversive, and spray a few 'extra' cocktail ingredients in amongst the 'protective' ones. Protect the earth for the PTB/get rid of a few of the populace at the same time kind of thing.:lightsabre:


Looks like the Chemtrails have done a good job. Before we shifted here to Oz in 1999 - we lived at Maidenbower - Crawley - Could see Gatwick in the distance. One morning in 1998 I saw lots of vapour trails going criss cross above and took a photo. Just assumed there was lots of early morning flights coming in to land. Thinking back we were NOT on the flight paths for Gatwick. So who was authorising these aicraft so close to the airport?:yikes:

[Antaletriangle]

I am certainly aware there are alot of people i know who are 'run down' most of the time-sore throats,headaches and nausea etc.I think we are long overdue for something major happening-either bluebeam or viral etc.Imagine mrs johnson with her shopping coming ite of kwik save looking up and seeing a fleet of diamond shaped craft rotating and pulsing in the sky!!lol.Just going to feed the starlings before they leave.There's a load of them flying around the house.